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Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 11 2014 22:38 GMT
#1379
Why did you even put yourself on that list lol... that bugs me so bad when people put themselves on lists to call themselves town.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 11 2014 22:43 GMT
#1382
Who's your highest priority target atm?
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 11 2014 22:51 GMT
#1386
lel catchup nerd
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 11 2014 23:17 GMT
#1393
Suki is town town town town~
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 11 2014 23:18 GMT
#1394
Actually her coronation is tomorrow.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 11 2014 23:21 GMT
#1395
Hey JB want to explain that blue stuff now? Might as well narrow our suspect list down a bit and explaining now would help do so. No need to be protecting anybody either since we're in such a great position. I'd accept waiting until resolution period, but tbh I don't really see a need to but you're the one who knows what's going on so that's fine.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 00:44 GMT
#1402
On February 12 2014 09:30 suki wrote:

I think this actually gives us a roadmap to the finish. I doubt Hopeless is scum because Sidesprang was trying to create suspicion against Hopeless. I also doubt LoneMeow is scum because both Jonny and Sidesprang have stated their suspicions on LoneMeow.

No comment on his statements to me, you guys can figure that out for yourself.



I did not come to the same conclusion about LoneMeow when reading Sidesprangs filter. Sidesprang mentioned him like... 2 or 3 times total.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 02:58 GMT
#1411
On February 12 2014 10:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
YESSSSSS WHEEEE YAY!!.
Thanks Balla.

I would say hopeless looks the worse from that, he played with Coag enough to know how he plays.
Aqua felt really genuinely trying to understand why sidesprang was scum but his vote was not needed and felt like he just said stuff to avoid sheeping. I dunno, but dont lynch till like day 4-5 if he stops playing.


I agree with this about Aqua. I don't have that knowledge about hopeless so I'll take your word for it. I'll post the usual analysis by the King tomorrow, for now I am le tired.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 17:57 GMT
#1435
On February 13 2014 02:52 Hopeless1der wrote:
Suki
Day1 case is in my filter.
Day2 she pushed coag all day and then meekly said
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2014 00:25 suki wrote:
Hm...

Call it a hunch, but I'm going to go with Hopeless. I think Oats is town and I he's convinced me that sidesprang is the better lynch for today. I also feel like trusting his meta read on Coag.

I also buy the 'sidesprang's reasons are all bad' argument as when sidesprang was town he actually had some decent arguments on why someone is scummy. This game it's all meta reads and kind-of vote analysis.

##unvote
##vote Sidesprang

Her filter is about 2/3 Day/Night 1 and 1/3 Day/Night 2 (I know Night2 isnt over yet, but the disparity is there)
Based on general activity and the sudden and unexpected switch to sprang she's definitely my top choice for scum.

Suki was once again seen defending the scum-lynch by saying they are contributing and deserve another day to prove themselves

You think she didn't mean for sidesprang to get lynched but put her vote there because she was confident that coag was going to get lynched without her? It's possible but seems pretty ballsy.

That's the only way I see suki being scum.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 18:06 GMT
#1437
Exactly. She was actually a springboard for me pushing sprang. Super ballsy to do that. She could have just said "man I see what you guys are saying about sidesprang but coag is just not playing, I have to kill him ##vote coag". Instead she would have taken a huge risk to vote sidesprang because she made it what 3-5?

That's evening out the playing fields pretty bad, if I was scum in her position there's NO WAY i'm taking that risk, and I really don't think suki would take that risk either.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 20:14 GMT
#1442
A note to start off with: I am mostly throwing out any interactions with Jonnylaw because I believe he was way too hard of a slam dunk on day1. There's just not enough to go on and fake interactions are easy to keep up with in ONE day. In two days however, not so much, so here are my notes on LoneMeow, Jaybrundage and Hopeless' interactions with Sidesprang. I believe the last scum are within them, and I agree with most of you who are saying Aqua is definitely town.

+ Show Spoiler [Sidesprang interactions] +

Jay -> Sidesprang interactions
------------------------------------------------------------
-asks koshi about Suki/Sidesprang
-null on sidesprang
-asks oats about sidesprang
-asks aquanim about sidesprang
-asks LM about sidesprang
-says he will policy lynch him and there's actually a decent chance he's scum (no case)
-says he never intended to follow up with the policy lynch and just wanted to pressure him since he "doesn't have enough content in the thread"

Sidesprang -> Jay interactions
------------------------------------------------------------
- weird Q -> jay about me and Koshi
- says he was an easy townread last game but not getting the same feel
- chainsaw defense of jayB/suki vs Oats...
- "i'll give jayB a pass for now since he claimed blue"
- another chainsaw defense of jayB vs alakaslam and then suki
- asks Jay where the pressure is after jay threatens to policy him...
- calls oats scummy for townreading jay (sheep of me)
- calls suki scummy for dropping her jayB push
- calls jayB town along with me and aqua for "blueclaim and N1 play..." wat

Vote comparison
------------------------------------------------------------
Jay:
D1 Balla -> Koshi -> Slam -> Suki
D2 Sidesprang -> Coag -> Sidesprang

SS:
D1 Jonnylaw
D2 Coagulation



LM -> Sidesprang interactions
------------------------------------------------------------
- Asks Koshi about his conclusion about sidesprang
- Chainsaw defense of sidesprang by attacking oats
- Null on sidesprang in response to JB
- if coag is town, sidesprang might be mafia, he thought he looked towny but now he's far less sure
- asks suki about sidesprang's meta and thinks it looks similar to "titanic 2" where he was town cop
- asks sidesprang to elaborate on everyone else
- asks sidesprang to explain why JB is town.
- asks me if sidesprangs D1 posting = scum and says my case is not super convincing, then when I explain he agrees and votes and says "he wishes he was more confident in this lynch"

SS -> LM interactions
------------------------------------------------------------
- Says he will look into LM same time he gives jayB a free pass
- needs to look at LM because he had a HUGE afk
- doesn't see anything scummy but nothing townie either.. not worht looking at this late in the cycle? suddenly after saying he needs to look into him
- null on lonemeow end of d2

Vote comparison
------------------------------------------------------------
LM:
D1 Jonnylaw
D2 Coagulation -> Sidesprang

SS:
D1 Jonnylaw
D2 Coagulation



Hopeless -> Sidesprang Interactions
------------------------------------------------------------
- explains why he had a townread on oats to sidesprang
- chainsaw defense of sidesprang by attacking suki's meta analysis
- calls sidesprang out for false facts and crushes his jayB town reasoning

SS -> Hopeless interactions
------------------------------------------------------------
- Doesn't mind hopeless so far and says he made good points against jayb
- nothing towny or scummy in his filter, doesn't like how he gives oats a townread
- says hopeless didn't really mention jonny and because of that he might be scum
- asks oats why is hopeless town and thinks its scummy for him to be townreading him
- says hopeless is leaning scum after oats/suki/coag
- says again that hope did a cheap vote on jonny
- calls oats out for giving hopeless town cred just cause he voted with no reasoning on jonny
- suddenly says he's null on hopeless because of big ass suki post (even though that was before he called hopeless slightly scummy)

Vote comparison
------------------------------------------------------------
Hope:
D1 Jaybrundage -> Jonnylaw
D2 Coag

SS:
D1 Jonnylaw
D2 Coag


The most inconsistent thing I find out of these three is sidesprang's opinion of jay. Beyond that, I find hopeless' opinion of sidesprang pretty non-existent. He's been attacking suki's meta case of sidesprang but not really saying what he thinks about sidesprang. LoneMeow consistently looks like he's trying to find out sidesprang's alignment, whereas the other two don't.

I think the last scum is between those two (jayB and hopeless) for now. Let's first look at what I'm talking about in regards to sidesprang's inconsitent opinion of jay.
On February 10 2014 17:17 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2014 12:30 suki wrote:
##vote Coagulation

I see that Oats has posted a bunch. I want to hear from Sidesprang. Specifically these questions:

1. Who is your number one lynch at the moment for Day 2 and why?
2. Who is scummy to you?
3. Comments on the Jonny lynch and the events leading up to it.

I'll comment on Oats in the morning when I'm not tired and I really hope to see something from Sidesprang.


I would prefer to lynch Oats, reasons being. He hardly mentioned jonny, had no reasons for voting him. Has two suspect townreads (hopeless / JayB). He is also not being very helpfull to town.

People who is leaning scum to me is Oats, You, Coag, Hopeless. Pretty much in that order I think.

Koshi and Balla lead the lynch, they were too me the two guys looking most towny. Koshi prolly died because of it. 3 guys have votes that they pretty much did not explain. You had Jonny as second lynch (I think), but for some reason was very reluctant to get JayB lynched instead.

I feel usualy town when having two scumreads are happy lynching either atleast when its such a landslide in votes. The fact that you are no dropping him completly for the day while having gone that hard for him I don't understand.

Anyhow, off too school. I'll check in when I got time.


Here he says that Oats has a suspect townread of jayB (which was basically a sheep of me), doesn't explain why. He also says suki dropping him completely is confusing. Later on he says:

On February 11 2014 15:11 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 03:22 LoneMeow wrote:
On February 10 2014 17:17 sidesprang wrote:
On February 10 2014 12:30 suki wrote:
##vote Coagulation

I see that Oats has posted a bunch. I want to hear from Sidesprang. Specifically these questions:

1. Who is your number one lynch at the moment for Day 2 and why?
2. Who is scummy to you?
3. Comments on the Jonny lynch and the events leading up to it.

I'll comment on Oats in the morning when I'm not tired and I really hope to see something from Sidesprang.


I would prefer to lynch Oats, reasons being. He hardly mentioned jonny, had no reasons for voting him. Has two suspect townreads (hopeless / JayB). He is also not being very helpfull to town.

People who is leaning scum to me is Oats, You, Coag, Hopeless. Pretty much in that order I think.

Koshi and Balla lead the lynch, they were too me the two guys looking most towny. Koshi prolly died because of it. 3 guys have votes that they pretty much did not explain. You had Jonny as second lynch (I think), but for some reason was very reluctant to get JayB lynched instead.

I feel usualy town when having two scumreads are happy lynching either atleast when its such a landslide in votes. The fact that you are no dropping him completly for the day while having gone that hard for him I don't understand.

Anyhow, off too school. I'll check in when I got time.


There's a few people you don't mention here as either town or scum. What do you think about their alignments and why?


I guess it dont hurt to mention the rest of the reads as I think most of the players are on the same page.

I'm town on

Balla
Aqua
JayB

JayB is town because his blueclaim and his N1 play.




This is his ONLY reasoning for thinking jay is town, this is very alarming for jay because sidesprang has been acting like oats and suki are wrong for town-reading jay, but then he puts him up there with me and Aqua (who have consistently been put at the top of most others townreads).

Sorry guys I actually can't be bothered to continue this analysis atm lol.... i have more kingly matters to attend to. Jay's probably scum. Better explain that blue shit tonight~~ I'll try to continue this during the resolution period.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 21:19 GMT
#1447
Jay? Wassup!
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 21:47 GMT
#1448
No explanation leads me to believe you are ACTUALLY blue...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 21:47 GMT
#1449
EBWOP: Actually CLAIMING blue.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 21:56 GMT
#1452
If jay is not dead tomorrow we should lynch him.

There were 2 plausible options that I had his blue claim under:

1. He was mafia and trying to gain cred in case he needed to claim a role when about to get lynched (to draw out the real blue role).

2. He was vanilla town and just fake claimed blue to draw a shot or an RB.

There's no way he is actually blue, as as a real blue you would be WAY more careful with how you do that & you would have claimed during resolution period today to get you out of the running for tomorrow.

Depending on his explanation, if he is not dead tomorrow or RB'ed then just lynch him. Personally as mafia I would have killed or RBed him D1, as he did a decent job selling the followup by not commenting on it and I wouldn't want to take the risk of it.

Anyways, my 2cents about it.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 21:57 GMT
#1453
Make your own opinions on it though, cause i'm probably being hasty.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 21:59 GMT
#1455
On February 13 2014 06:58 Aquanim wrote:
I don't intend to lynch Jay without thinking about it, but this claim of his is looking sketchier and sketchier.

Yep. I didn't mean it to be the be all end all, but definitely something about, and I had to post now so it was kinda rushed.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 22:00 GMT
#1457
EBWOP: something to think about
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 22:12 GMT
#1459
i would say no talking
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
February 12 2014 22:14 GMT
#1462
haha as much as i'd like to see this for all you know you could be dead now so no ^_^
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