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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 04:42 GMT
#2822
On February 17 2014 13:29 Grackaroni wrote:
And I definitely think the recent interactions between HF and Risen have seemed very strange. They are both really strongly against one another (for no real explainable reasons since there are a lot of really scummy looking people) in a game where scum might be feeling a stronger need to bus in order to gain enough town-cred to win.

I get the sentiment, but even I'm not bussing here when if wave flips scum we would autolose happens.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 04:46 GMT
#2823
Though hey, I'm down to push that line of thinking so long as we lynch wave and holy first. I'll vote myself on the final nomination day to help get things rolling.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 06:19 GMT
#2827
I like to think the rest of town would rally behind your death, whereas just the two of us don't seem able to convince ve/palmar/whoever.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:30 GMT
#2886
So... next two lynches wave then oats? No one comes up with a scum team of risen, yamato, wave.

Game is solved as long as no one in the nomination circle is scum.

See hf? You might be town and tomato might be scum. Oats just did you a real solid and this should be a plan you can get behind.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:32 GMT
#2891
This is a huge standoff with palmar, ve, and hf though. I don't even know what I'm gonna do if palmar flips scum lol
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:36 GMT
#2894
Oh man if palmar is scum I think we can afford to lynch me next cycle
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:38 GMT
#2899
Ebwop: the implication being that once I flip town you ask can just listen to me having solved the game.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:39 GMT
#2903
On February 17 2014 23:37 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 23:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
I didn't do "literally nothing". I didn't have firm scumreads, but then NO ONE did, and that was a major reason why people weren't having fun and stumbling over themselves to KILL THEMSELVES. Palmar you're being thick-headed and ignorant. You're using false heuristics and buzz words to try and paint me in a scummy light, and it all stinks of pushing an agenda. You know who else wanted to lynch me Palmar? Keirathi, lynched scum. Went on a fucking TIRADE to do it. I think we just lynch all the people who want to lynch VE and we win. Starting with you.


You had no influence in town and you were fine with it.

If you think I'm scum I'm by definition not being thick-headed and ignorant, as that would mean I'd know I was being wrong. I think I'm being right.

Do you agree with Holyflare that Grack is scum VE?

Ye old shenans switcherooski
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:41 GMT
#2907
Oh man what if it's palmar, wave, oats. I will literally go make a snow angel in my underwear and post pics if that's the scum team
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:43 GMT
#2910
On February 17 2014 23:40 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 23:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Let me ask you Palmar: why do you feel like town has a better chance of winning with Grack alive than with me alive assuming we're both town?


If you're both town, we're better off with you alive.

Lol. That five forty tho
On February 17 2014 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 23:39 Palmar wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:37 Holyflare wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:35 Palmar wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anything you can do to get that scumread Palmar. First it was because I "wasn't playing" even though I was, in fact, playing, now it's because I don't have a townread on you while you're making shit up to try and get me lynched.

LOL

Just keep reaching bro.


The first point still stands. I couldn't "make up" the other part until it became clear that you still think I'm scum.

It's not reaching, I've called you out multiple times over the course of the first few days on doing nothing, or very little, and not explaining any of your reads. All these things still stand. Given your recent contributions, you may in fact be town, but I don't think I can ever clear you.


HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS BUT THEN NOT WANT TO DISCUSS GRACK WHO DIDNT DO ANYTHING TILL DAY 3 AND EVEN THEN STILL DID NOTHING :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Because I know VE far better than I know Grack. I admit, I am not 100% sure on Grack being town. I think he is, but I can't be sure. There is a reason I voted for him over Koshi, I was more sure Koshi is town.

Obviously I'm not going to have the energy to read Grack today, but if we do this correctly and lynch VE today, I will absolutely listen to each and every argument. I'm going to have to anyway.


well I think VE is town and grack is scum, dilemna... maybe you should read grack right about now and maybe you should have done it days ago when I was talking about it and all you did was troll me and try and lynch me off then too, that would be a start if you want to "win the game"

I want grack lynched so people will listen to him about hf if he's town. I support this.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:49 GMT
#2920
On February 17 2014 23:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
PALMAR DIES TODAY.

NO ONE VOTES ANYONE BUT PALMAR OR CLAIMS FUCKING SCUM.

Why are you trying so hard to save HF? Saying things like this makes me not want us to meet each other.

You think palmar has a higher chance of being scum than yamato, oats, or I? Because that's what this is. The game is solved.

Lynch wave, lynch holy if grack is town me if he's scum, lynch the new nomination every time. End of discussion.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:54 GMT
#2926
On February 17 2014 23:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2014 23:45 Palmar wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:43 Risen wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:40 Palmar wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Let me ask you Palmar: why do you feel like town has a better chance of winning with Grack alive than with me alive assuming we're both town?


If you're both town, we're better off with you alive.

Lol. That five forty tho
On February 17 2014 23:40 Holyflare wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:39 Palmar wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:37 Holyflare wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:35 Palmar wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anything you can do to get that scumread Palmar. First it was because I "wasn't playing" even though I was, in fact, playing, now it's because I don't have a townread on you while you're making shit up to try and get me lynched.

LOL

Just keep reaching bro.


The first point still stands. I couldn't "make up" the other part until it became clear that you still think I'm scum.

It's not reaching, I've called you out multiple times over the course of the first few days on doing nothing, or very little, and not explaining any of your reads. All these things still stand. Given your recent contributions, you may in fact be town, but I don't think I can ever clear you.


HOW CAN YOU SAY THIS BUT THEN NOT WANT TO DISCUSS GRACK WHO DIDNT DO ANYTHING TILL DAY 3 AND EVEN THEN STILL DID NOTHING :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Because I know VE far better than I know Grack. I admit, I am not 100% sure on Grack being town. I think he is, but I can't be sure. There is a reason I voted for him over Koshi, I was more sure Koshi is town.

Obviously I'm not going to have the energy to read Grack today, but if we do this correctly and lynch VE today, I will absolutely listen to each and every argument. I'm going to have to anyway.


well I think VE is town and grack is scum, dilemna... maybe you should read grack right about now and maybe you should have done it days ago when I was talking about it and all you did was troll me and try and lynch me off then too, that would be a start if you want to "win the game"

I want grack lynched so people will listen to him about hf if he's town. I support this.


We could do this, I might consider lynching Grack if HF agrees that we auto-lynch him if Grack flips town. Does that sound good HF?


no......................? that would be a lost game in that case

If you're town and grack flips town the game is already over because then conf town grack wants you dead and alive risen wants you dead, which means a townie is going to have a wasted vote.

Assuming ve and palmar are town, which I feel safe assuming, the game is solved. Lynch grack, listen to his reads, the end.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 14:58 GMT
#2928
So I'd really like all of us to decide which of the two non nomination lynched holy, oats, yamato, or I are getting lynched.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 15:01 GMT
#2932
"I am more than willing to listen to a Grack lynch theory tomorrow"

Wtf palmar? You'd waste the fucking lylo lynch on someone you could safely lynch in the next nomination cycle? Are you dense?
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 15:15 GMT
#2941
Eh I think ve is town and he thinks I'm scum. Game is over.

Gg scum back to snow land
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 18:03 GMT
#3002
Is it so much to ask that we discuss who to lynch NOT today since there's so little time left... like say, wave day 1 (still nothing), New guy nomination 2, hf day 3, New guy day 4, leftover day 5? All I ask is that I be lynched AFTER hf. Honestly I'd say lynch oats d3 but he's impossible to read so I'm more confident in my hf read.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 18:14 GMT
#3004
Honestly I just want not me day 3. Oats, hf, and yamato all look scum to me for differing reasons.

Hf looks very different from town hf and he's targeting me, someone who has been very clearly town all game (note how wrong I've been about my reads. Scum risen buses teammates, town risen gets good endgame when there's literally no other options for who scum is). I think he avoided calling me a town read on purpose because he's seen the backlash that can have

Oats is oats. He's scummy as either alignment. He does it on purpose so he can never be lynched. Strongly considering policy lynching day 1 every game now.

Yamato is very weird. He's had me as a scum read a lot this game while simultaneously expressing similar views to me and I think he's voted identical to me as well. That bugs the shit out of me. There's other stuff I can't remember.

2/3 are scum. Whichever is nominated for the next nomination lynch will be the town of the two, so I guess I don't care who we lynch next day as long as it's not me. And if somehow they nominate me then lynch hf. Literally I'm not asking not to be lynched eventually, I'll be nominated in two nomination cycles. Lynch me then. I just have to be lynched as a nomination or we lose (that's obvious, though)

Game is solved.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 18:17 GMT
#3005
On February 18 2014 03:07 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 03:03 Risen wrote:
Is it so much to ask that we discuss who to lynch NOT today since there's so little time left... like say, wave day 1 (still nothing), New guy nomination 2, hf day 3, New guy day 4, leftover day 5? All I ask is that I be lynched AFTER hf. Honestly I'd say lynch oats d3 but he's impossible to read so I'm more confident in my hf read.


Why can't we do that tomorrow?

We don't know who gets nominated, we don't know how the game is going to flow.

Because one of the nominations is going to die. I'd like all of you to discuss it since I'm assuming all of you are town.

And the game is solved. Those alive in three lynched either believe I'm more likely to be scum than the two of hf/yam/oats or they believe I'm town and it doesn't matter who we lynch so long as it's not me.

Town has a 66% chance of winning as long as the two survivors of this nomination lynch are town.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 18:21 GMT
#3007
Can't tell whether you just think I'm town or if I'm nit picking a scum slip and you're just calling me town.

Either way, yeah I know I suck at town. There's a reason I don't get shot unless I'm blue
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
February 17 2014 19:01 GMT
#3010
Town hf makes sweeping all inclusive cases, and he's good. He hasn't been good this game. Oats look at the games you've played with him. This is not town hf and that's a compliment. He's really good and if he were town and I was scum I'd shot him over marv.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
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