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I haven't made a case on koshi so i don't care if he's playing awful but I made a case on you that NOBODY commented on APART FROM YOU. Maybe i'm wrong about you, and then I can look into that and you cran prove me wrong. People straight up ignore things that people put effort into and that is total shit play and it frustrates me to no end to the point where I don't want to play and understand why marv wanted to get lynched off on nominations day. | ||
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On February 13 2014 22:59 Palmar wrote: Why do people insist on playing like shit, it's really annoying. ......... | ||
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As for who is scum I'm pretty sure I need to change a few things around based on what just happened. b]VisceraEyes[/b] (1): VayneAuthority (5): Oatsmaster, Keirathi (1): WaveofShadow, Oatsmaster (0): Holyflare (4): WaveofShadow (1): yamato77 Grackaroni (0): This was the final vote count. The wagon on me started initially because VA had a read on me based on nothing and then grack decided to join him and add to that nothingness case with nothing. Shortly after that people followed on. Marvellosity, Risen, Koshi, Palmar. Koshi and marv finally got off me and marv is town but the remaining people Grack/Risen/Palmar are HIGHLY likely to contain mafia. The best method for scum to win the game would have been to kill a person that was town that wasn't VA because VA would have been a very very easy mislynch in the next lynch phase and so what better way to do that then to stick to the person that wasn't around and then afk when things seem to happen. I've already made my case against grack and he states the timeline is wrong (not sure it is) but the rest of it still stands, his reads do not add up and he doesn't follow a coherent thought process through the entire game. Even now he is "frustrated" that nobody listens to him after not playing the game for 3 WHOLE DAYS and wondering why???? Palmar, I am so so so confused by him. Thought he was town, still kind of do, but his play around the lynch deadline and interactions around that are so bad it's frustrating to continue reading him as town. Why would he flat out ignore everything I wrote just to say "grack is town to me" and THEN lynch me off based on nothing straight after I made the case instead of generating discussion and trying to solve the game? He then asked marv to pretty much make his read for him at the end of the day: On February 13 2014 09:19 Palmar wrote: marv what do? help pls and marv didn't respond and he proceeded to further afk and THEN THE NEXT DAY CALL EVERYONE ELSE BAD FOR NOT PLAYING. This doesn't align with what I see as someone who wants to win by finding the remaining mafia. Risen on the other hand has done nothing all game, has sheeped reads, sheeped marv and then when marv went back off me he decided to turn sheep mode off and not listen to anything despite not being around for the times when it counts. He then did not do anything at deadline but afk. He is quite likely scum for this because I know he was around at the deadline time. | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:17 Palmar wrote: Holyflare, look at your day 1. I will never be able to label you town because of your day one. Never. Next time, play all the days of a game. I can totally control my schedule. I didn't make excuses like half the people have done in this game and my activity is never this shit as was pointed out to you by marv and rayn several times. Yet you took it increasingly to mean that I was scum and never ASKED me about it. Don't even bother. I spent so much time on the cora case because in Vengeful I got all my reads wrong and it was very frustrating so I wanted to tryhard and MAKE SURE that I got my reads right this game, so I invested a lot of time into research in a lot of people and I thought I was right on cora because of his lack of attitude which was quite clearly not the case.... | ||
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LXIII: 26 pages Hogwarts: 28 pages Back to the Basics: 11 pages in 1 day I spam like shit in scum games which I haven't done here. I want to solve the game and nobody responds to anything I say with discussion, just "yeh holyflare is scum". | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:30 Palmar wrote: I'm not pretentious If you know someone is scum, and marv thinks VA is scum, marv gets his target lynched and you don't, even if marv is wrong, marv played better than you, because you did nothing. It's equally useless to have good reads and no ability to convey your thoughts to the town, as it is to have bad reads. Stop twisting this back on it's head. I don't give a shit if you follow my reads or not and this is why you are being a shit towny if you are actually town. I posted a case that NOBODY DISCUSSED. I don't care if you agree or disagree with my reads. You didn't state any bit of it in your "grack is town" read and you didn't discuss anything with me. I just want to talk about the things I write so I can get to the bottom of the god damn game. Not be lectured about how I should cater my reads to the town. Can you not read written english or are you being an intentional asshole because catering to the town when the town isn't reading is NOT a thing that can be done. | ||
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On February 13 2014 04:22 Risen wrote: I'm down for stopping potential shenanigans. ##unvote ##vote: vayneauthority On February 13 2014 04:25 Risen wrote: I'm down for lynching any of ve, keir, hf, va On February 13 2014 06:26 Risen wrote: Well, VA is in the lead, I'm down for stopping any potential last second shenans since I've been asked to consolidate. So I did. On February 13 2014 08:54 Risen wrote: Why is keir not getting lynched again? On February 13 2014 06:35 Risen wrote: Won't you take me to Sheepytown! Won't you take me to Sheepytown! Won't you take me to Sheepytown! Won't you take me to SHEEEEEPYTOWN ##unvote ##vote: Holyflare But where does this wanting to lynch HF come from Risen? It's nowhere in your filter? My genius and clever trap has worked~Marv NOT GIVIN A FUUUUUCK~Risen But you just said you wanted to stop last second shenans, Risen!!!~Marv + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://media2.giphy.com/media/1106O5br2MwOSA/giphy.gif) On February 13 2014 10:08 Risen wrote: Meh, not surprised. Want's to consolidate, throws in random comments about Keir (who I am pretty sure is scum - distancing) but no push and I even tried to start a keir wagon that both grack and risen did not even join despite them both calling him scum, consolidates onto VA to stop shenanigans but THEN does shenanigans onto me when I was an easy mislynch at the time because I wasn't around. Marv unvotes and votes VA only for Risen to not care because I was an easy afk counter wagon and so he unsheeps marv. I return and start talking and he "afk's" only to return STRAIGHT after deadline to mention "meh, not surprised" after VA flips town. He has VA as a scum read and has no input on him but isn't surprised at all and doesn't really care. | ||
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This is really inaccurate. Scum are really unlikely to play like that and draw attention to themselves in that way when they know that Marv will be gone later and they can just sit back and hide until the next cycle and last second switch on to a town lurker. I hope you are actually kidding. I was afk when half the votes were placed onto me and MARVELOSSITY JOINED THE WAGON. That was the easiest scum switch to an afk person lynch that wasn't VA in the history of TL Mafia. There would be nobody looking bad because "oh he was afk" and when I returned I got angry that nobody was discussing shit so then it's "oh why would he rage as town". So portraying that as something bad would be ridiculous. Scum only need 1 more mislynch to win and who would be the easiest mislynch in the land? Oh yeh that's VA. | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:38 Oatsmaster wrote: So much bitching hf. How is this helping solve the game? Where are you solving the game? | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:49 Grackaroni wrote: And I spent the entire day trying to get Marvellosity to switch. That's the hardest fucking scum switch in TL mafia history when I could literally just chill all day and then wait for a townie to vote VE or Yamato or Risen or whoever else is a town lurker and last second vote switch to win the game. Ignoring the fact that those 3 could be not-town lurkers? Marv switched on his own volition not because you "convinced" him. You had no input in his switch whatsoever because you had NO reason to vote me just like VA. You weren't on the VA wagon who you called scum the entirety of the past 2 days and he flipped town, that looks so bad. | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:51 Grackaroni wrote: He doesn't even think before he does it. It will be like, Grack's defense was really shit. I will respond your case was bad And he will go, "OH Yeah Grack? Why are you commenting on worthless stuff? Hmmmmmmmm?" I re-read our exchanged and there was one point where I say that defence of grack was terrible and you took it to mean YOUR defence when in actuality I was using it to say Keirathi's defence of you was terrible here: On February 13 2014 08:14 Keirathi wrote: Yea I'm not particularly interested in Grack for now. Too many little things like I don't knowGrack; maybe he can do that as scum, but I'm doubtful. It's just too care-free and open and silly. He's welcome to stay for now. and I was caught up in anger so I thought I meant it to mean your defence when you replied. | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:57 Grackaroni wrote: There wouldn't be anything to switch to if it wasn't for me pestering him all day long. marv can easily start a counter wagon on his own ~_~ as can be seen since 3 people joined the wagon after he did and not when you "convinced" him | ||
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On February 13 2014 23:58 Grackaroni wrote: What vote analysis? You said everyone voting you is scum. Then I said I think it's the opposite. Then you said, "Why dont you comment on something relevant, scum? You have 0 basis for voting me, the person that you had called scum only in the past day because of something "you'd explain in the morning" only to then NOT explain it and get "frustrated" when people didn't listen to you. Risen consolidated to avoid shenanigans and then DID SHENANIGANS and afk'd on someone that wasn't around. Palmar didn't even read anything I wrote about you and said you were town and then complained that I wasn't catering to the audience and voted me for being angry only to then want to sheep marv but marv wasn't around so then he afk'd. Only me, you and koshi were around for the vote. That is terrible. | ||
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On February 14 2014 00:03 Grackaroni wrote: -Towniest thing I've heard all day. I didn't give any reasoning on Mocsta either and that didn't change him being scum. So your frustration is then fake? | ||
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