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On February 11 2014 01:37 marvellosity wrote: Yes, it was a ridiculous thing to say really. Don't know if in particular it's scum-ridiculous or just ridiculous though. I could bounce a counter-question to him - Why is he not buddying VE like usual? In LXIV all he did was circle-jerk with VE, now he is not apparently even reading his posts. | ||
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On February 11 2014 01:43 Palmar wrote: Mostly because I felt his approach to talking to me after the lynch was relatively healthy. It's entirely possible I may be mistaking tentative with reasonable (ie, given people like Cora called me scum for no reason, it's nice to talk to people who actually ask questions and respond), but yeah. I thought his questioning was indicative of someone who had an actual interest in finding out what went on. I find it problematic because he does not really have any insight to provide in those particular "reads" (i don't even know what he is trying to say). Like he points out something that is suspicious (??), doesn't say why and ends up with a question "are all these people scum", like someone else needs to decide for him. Then he brings the same thing up again after the lynch. | ||
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On February 11 2014 01:48 marvellosity wrote: The main issue I have with Holy is his activity, and we'll see on that My main issue is that he is using clear arguments and has clear thougts when he is town and makes a lot of fluff posts that don't really end up saying anything as mafia and this looks more like the latter. | ||
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On February 11 2014 01:52 marvellosity wrote: I don't really agree with that assessment tbh. Do you remember something I wrote about Holy in Vengeful? I said his focus on Prome looked suspicious, but he had more little posts that I felt were more likely to come from a town-Holy. I expect longer blocks of paragraph + text from a mafia Holy than I've seen this game. It's not conclusive but it means I'm not particularly interested in him atm tbh, form my pov in Vengeful (i might be biased as i was scum) Holyflare was the towniest person in the game.  | ||
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On February 11 2014 01:55 Palmar wrote: So now that we're all here. should we lynch yamato to make him mad? We could do that, then when he calls us all idiots and retards we know he is town and we can switch to WoS or VE. | ||
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On February 11 2014 01:55 marvellosity wrote: Well, you have to understand I'm in the superior position of viewing him from a position of not knowing his alignment in both games  But you have to understand that i have played only one game where we have both been town and i insta-cleared him as town for myself. In all the other games i have found him scummy at some point or been scum when he has been town. Statistics say he is mafia because i am town. j/k, maybe we'll learn more about him tonight. | ||
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On February 11 2014 01:57 Holyflare wrote: Would rather do it after nominations tbh which is probably around the time I'll be back. Got 2 scum i think though. Fair enough. | ||
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On February 11 2014 02:00 Holyflare wrote: And if you don't know what's scummy about them then you have no hope as a mafia player! One was a safe vote on a guy that wasn't mentioned, another was an unexplained shenanigans and the other one was what looked like someone saying this lynch looks bad, he can't be doing this as scum but voting him anyway? I agree that Vayne's vote was really bad as marv already pointed out. Palmar explained himself and i don't see much wrong with his stance on Cora knowing how Palmar plays. Koshi looks town to me based on his other posts, and i don't see him being scum at least for now. I have no problem with your stance on them, to me it just seemed like you left some open ended questions to the thread instead of providing answers if you get what i mean. | ||
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On February 10 2014 09:52 Koshi wrote: Meh, I had a bad d1. Bit too spammy, with less spam I could have maybe been less suspicious and then pushed VA lynch. Even though Cora lynch not the worst lynch all by all. gn. Koshi what's this? Also could you answer Holyflare? | ||
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On February 11 2014 02:14 Grackaroni wrote: Did you know that Kushm4sta only attacks Rayn's play as scum? That's not true. What's stupid about it is that he does it as scum to piss me off and nowadays he does it as town to piss me off (which makes no sense). But why do you even say this? | ||
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On February 11 2014 02:16 Grackaroni wrote: I thought we were playing the silly meta game. I still don't know what you are referring to? | ||
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On February 11 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote: Could you be a little more specific? I mean, you're not me and I'm not you. It's possible for someone to have a townread on me and not you and vice versa I suppose. And to people who aren't me and maybe only one or two others, you're more sneaky scum than I am :> No offence to geript, but him saying "I want to look at rayn" has about zero thread impact, it probably just means he wants to look at rayn. Also Palmar thinks geript is mafia which makes geript very likely to be town. If he thinks you are town, given the meta between us don't you think he would think you have a decent read on me? Like you called me scum for my first post in the last game and called me scum in the end of D1 in the game before the last game i was scum and you were town in. | ||
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On February 11 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote: Also Palmar thinks geript is mafia which makes geript very likely to be town. I don't think this is a good heuristic. Palmar called "confirmed town geript" scum in LXI basically in all of his posts lol. | ||
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On February 11 2014 02:36 marvellosity wrote: Meh, maybe? It seems a lot less egregious than Wave ignoring what we think on Koshi, for example. I've never explicitly called you town this game I don't think either, I've just treated you that way mostly, which is more subtle and for people not-us isn't totally evident, and perhaps even if it was evident he'd like to have his own opinion. Well idk, what would you think if someone agrees with someone else on the lynch and on other things? Would you think they can possibly have a scumread on the other dude? | ||
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On February 11 2014 02:38 marvellosity wrote: No, but I also don't think it's good logical thinking to think "two people who agree on various things must be the same alignment", at least not to the extent where it's bad to want to look into someone. ofc it's not, but the thing is you can assume something from it. You are one of the people who can actually read me in mafia, i think that should hold some weight in how other people form reads on me -> and therefore having a townread on you and a possible scumread on me makes little sense to me. | ||
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On February 11 2014 02:41 marvellosity wrote: Put it this way rayn: if geript is somehow mafia, it won't be for that. yeah i guess what he comes up with from his reread. | ||
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