Alright, but I REALLY have to go to bed.
What 'other people' do you think I should be looking into (besides Prome because I will be doing that tomorrow).

Prome, marv.
Artanis and Cephiro can go die because they apparently don't wanna play.

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February 05 2014 08:16 GMT

#793

Hmm.. So apparetly everyone in this game (barring Cephiro?) thinks Artanis is mafia.
So if he is mafia he is being bussed.

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February 05 2014 08:27 GMT

#797

lol HF

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February 05 2014 08:28 GMT

#798

I am trying to figure out what to make out of Prome's statements on Artanis throughout the game in every scenario but it's so hard because nothing makes sense..

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February 05 2014 08:32 GMT

#800

Why does marv think he is town? I can't find any real reasoning.

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February 05 2014 08:33 GMT

#801

Like the only reasoning for marv's reads that are not me or Artanis EVER in this game is "because other people look worse". This doesn't even make sense because the reasoning for me being mafia is so very shit.

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February 05 2014 09:01 GMT

#803

Wave looks better after the last arguments between me and him. I can get where he is coming from if he is town. I still disagree with feel based reads, i mean, i know i read people based on feels (but only Vayne and Koshi) but if you do so that's not the only thing you should do as that does not qualify as a reasoning and it's an easy way for scum to hide (not to post any real reasoning for your reads).

Especially in this setup it's really good for mafia because if you just convince a couple of (strong/vocal) townies, you are unlikely to get lynched/shot because strong/vocal townies "decide" the lynch as they usually drive the discussion and are listened to. So buddy buddy and you get a pass because your read is not "wrong" (as you give a town meta read on a townie).

That's also why i think Prome and marv can't both be mafia, as it makes no sense to me for Prome to buddy up to his scumbuddy based on shit meta reasons. So kill Artanis/Prome and make them shoot each other, that's where i am atm.

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February 05 2014 09:14 GMT

#805

Also wanting the phase to last no more than 48h is stupid. This game can be solved on D1 and hurrying up the lynch because "bored" or some other shit is just dumb. Also Cephiro needs to talk.

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February 05 2014 09:15 GMT

#806

I'll be your super town friend DarthPunk.

Let's win this game. marv can join too if he is town.

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February 05 2014 09:18 GMT

#809

Have you slept already?

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February 05 2014 09:24 GMT

#811

On February 05 2014 18:21 DarthPunk wrote:

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Kind of hilarious you are saying that after Extractor trick. hue.

And that game is exactly why i am saying that. I was retarded in that game.

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February 05 2014 09:32 GMT

#816

On February 05 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:

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Gotta stay awake for a delivery zzzzzz

In case you are planning on being here what do you think of Wave's last contributions and what i said about marv?

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February 05 2014 09:43 GMT

#820

On February 05 2014 18:33 Cephiro wrote:
2) I want to see how certain players continue without me taking an action against them.

Cephiro the thing here is pretty much all other people have reads on each other. We are trying to figure out your alignment because you havn't done shit. Continuing to not do shit is not really a townie way to proceed..

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February 05 2014 09:44 GMT

#821

Why this:

Artanis is a ?-Factor.

???

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February 05 2014 10:03 GMT

#833

On February 05 2014 18:51 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone played with cephiro on forum before? Does he do this "my plan is complete" only to then reveal... Nothing?

Yes i have. Cephiro has a quite interesting playstyle that revolves around making plans that usually (to me at least) make no sense (rofl ^^). Look at Hogwarts (how do you not remember this, you played in that game?), Aperture 2 and SMB mini mafia.

The way of reading Cephiro is to make a judgement call on if his plans make sense from him to do as town or not. Not if they make sense or not in general (trust me, in the first 2 games i wanted to lynch him for his plans because i thought they were dumb).

I've seen Cephiro play mafia in LXII but that's not really a good place to look at because he basically posted more in mafia QT than in the thread and just lurked all game and promised to du stuff he never did later on. I do not remember anything about the Witchcraft game because i do not really pay attention to what townies say when i am mafia.

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February 05 2014 10:04 GMT

#835

On February 05 2014 18:58 Cephiro wrote:

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I don't care if you have 0.6, 6, 16, or 60 pages of filter. It's not alignment indicative. There are reasons why I consider your play more likely to be pro-scum than pro-town. As I explained earlier, even though I dislike marv's play in general he has enough good points to back him up as likely town.

He could still be scum, I'm open up to all possibilities for now.

Could you be more specific in what those good points are that marv has brought up?

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February 05 2014 10:09 GMT

#837

On February 05 2014 19:08 Holyflare wrote:
Don't really remember people from when I'm scum gotta keep track of the lies. +he didn't do any plans then

rofl

He did, he claimed about 10 different roles and a check on me/Koshi..

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February 05 2014 10:24 GMT

#852

On February 05 2014 19:18 marvellosity wrote:

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I made a case, you lying little shit.

And i answered it and the case is invalid.
Also stop calling me names please.

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February 05 2014 10:25 GMT

#854

On February 05 2014 19:21 marvellosity wrote:

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Totally incorrect, just a casual readthrough of Shadow game shows all my points are almost always reasoned.

badly, but reasoned.

Well your case on me is "reasoned", badly.

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February 05 2014 10:27 GMT

#858

On February 05 2014 19:25 marvellosity wrote:

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You best probably stop lying.

The case isn't invalid. You said I have called you scum with "no reasoning". Not that you answered the case. I have repeatedly given reasoning. That is a flat out LIE.

Your "reasoning" is not reasoning. Your reasoning is "he said something i did not understand" and "he doesn't make sense". First one i have explained and the second one you have not explained.