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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 04 2014 20:22 GMT
#635
On February 05 2014 05:21 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 05:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is marv so bad this game?

Are you telling me Artanis is town?

If so, explain.

confirmed bad.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 04 2014 20:25 GMT
#638
I dunno. Maybe marv is mafia. I have never seen town!marv not read the thread properly, especially when he talks about his scumread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 04 2014 20:26 GMT
#639
On February 05 2014 05:24 LSB wrote:
Yeah I don't get the artanis is scum because he is not taking the game seriously meta. If anything it puts more townie points for me.

Artanis is quite capable of taking the game seriously and acting like one of the most townie player in the game as scum. I would be more concerned if he was an active townie than the lurker that he is right now

Uhh.. You need to ealborate more on this because i don't think this is true.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 04 2014 20:31 GMT
#641
In Titanic Artanis was really scummy and the only thing that made anyone think he was town was because he bussed Xatalos the whole game and people thought it was "too stupid to be scum-scum" after Xatalos flipped mafia. Since then Artanis has basically been caught in N1 in Quiet mini mafia and in NMM.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 06:53 GMT
#744
On February 05 2014 12:04 DarthPunk wrote:
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On February 05 2014 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno. Maybe marv is mafia. I have never seen town!marv not read the thread properly, especially when he talks about his scumread.


What? Don't call marv obviously town for no reason and then call him scummy again. That is fucking bullshit. If your can change that fast how was he obviously town in the first place?

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On February 05 2014 05:43 marvellosity wrote:
I mean if you think Artanis is mafia then you have no grounds to be asking why I am "so bad" this game when the person I want to kill you also think is mafia.


That is also odd.

God I hope you actually are town this game rayn.

Because marv has called me scum for days with absolutely no reasoning. Then i lay out my scumreads (which btw include Artanis) and he cames in and asks me this retarded question about if Artanis is my townread.

Another dude who calls me scum for absolutely no reasoning is Wave. He sneakily adds it in multiple places and never explains his read in detail.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 06:54 GMT
#745
On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
Im around for a bit but after last game I'm pretty bored of talking to people I read as townie who think I'm scum for bad reasons.

In short the reasons for people being town:
Marv: meta. His tone and interest are in direct contrast to his play as scum ever. I can't show it to you because it is present in every post. Either you believe that I know how to read Marv based on his tone or you don't. However, I can and because I value my reputation on this site I would never commit to a read this heavily unless I was sure. I am very sure.

Wave: had some posts which read townie to me early on. I'm on a tablet so I can't quote. My memory suggest these had to do with his determination to watch Marv and his insistence of it in thread. Other people saw these as scummy but I liked them, they made sense from a townie who had misgivings about scum Marv in his past game but hadn't done anything to get him lynched.

Iamperfection: seemed really townie. He niggled in ways I liked during early game. I'm sad he replaced out since he was making sense and generally read as town.
Lsb: has clearly thought about the set up from a town perspective. This gels with both my past experience with town lsb (PYPLOL) and my read of imp as town.

DP: all the rage, it seems like genuine towniedp rage. DP plays a smart game of scum and screaming and kicking is a good way to get shot while at the same time ruining his chances of being listened to as a thread leader. Also I disagree with most/all of what he is saying which, counter-intuitively, makes him seem townie to me. In the past scum DP has tried to fit into thread and say similar things to townies and since he is not doing that I think he is town.

I have reasons DP. I just never bothered to write them out. There they are. I'm not going to repeat myself, I don't think there is a lot of value in answering you in a case on me. If you lynch me I'll happily shoot Artanis. I don't really care since I'm clearly town and you might listen to my reads after I shoot scum.

I believe I've adequately explained my scum reads. If you disagree feel free to ask.

This is not true. marv does not reason his arguments as mafia and he is more of an asshole than he is as town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:04 GMT
#747
Why do you not remember anything i told you, Holyflare and DarthPunk before the game?
Are you intentionally not remembering?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:09 GMT
#750
1) There is infinite amount of time, i don't have any reasons to "push" any lynch especially when this is an IML game.
2) There is a purpose in my posts. You have not asked me anything about any of my posts and saying "any of your posts have no purpose" is a straight out lie. Why don't you ask me something then if you are unsure? Insead fo doing so you just keep with this "rayn does not feel town" crap that is (1)unjustified and (2)not explained and therefore fishy.
3) I don't need to prove you wrong, because you are not literally "wrong", but you are not acting townie in any way because you are not being clear.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:11 GMT
#752
On February 05 2014 16:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn did tell me before the game started he was trying a different style this game.

Yes in fact i said so after the last shadow podcast and all of you three were.
I said, "because now we will have a game where people are actually good i am going to be more laid back and reasonable and not just try to drive the discussion" because I ACTUALLY CAN DO SO as the players are not total retards.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:13 GMT
#754
On February 05 2014 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 16:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn did tell me before the game started he was trying a different style this game.

I remember that, hence be not jumping all over him for it constantly, but the fact remains, whatever new 'style' he is choosing he hasn't bothered to push anyone today and much of his posting doesn't accomplish much.

If that's his new style, I don't see what he's attempting to accomplish with it.

I have laid out my three scumreads. I have given reasoning to all these reads. I am considering marv as fourth and i have no read on Cephiro.
There is no reason for me to push anyone at this point. If you wanna speed hammer me for it go ahead, i don't give a shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:14 GMT
#755
Prome has said fucking nothing useful all game. He hasn't given a single good reason for any of his reads besides his last post, and i do not think that was really good either.

Wave, what exactly are these good contributions from Prome?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:16 GMT
#756
On February 05 2014 15:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave: had some posts which read townie to me early on. I'm on a tablet so I can't quote. My memory suggest these had to do with his determination to watch Marv and his insistence of it in thread. Other people saw these as scummy but I liked them, they made sense from a townie who had misgivings about scum Marv in his past game but hadn't done anything to get him lynched.

Why is this more likely to come from a townie than from mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:25 GMT
#761
On February 05 2014 16:17 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
1) There is infinite amount of time, i don't have any reasons to "push" any lynch especially when this is an IML game.
2) There is a purpose in my posts. You have not asked me anything about any of my posts and saying "any of your posts have no purpose" is a straight out lie. Why don't you ask me something then if you are unsure? Insead fo doing so you just keep with this "rayn does not feel town" crap that is (1)unjustified and (2)not explained and therefore fishy.
3) I don't need to prove you wrong, because you are not literally "wrong", but you are not acting townie in any way because you are not being clear.

Ok you sort of answered the post that came after this one.
1) Is there some point in this game that you are going to take up a stance? We're what, almost 36h in? Again, this may be a different style for you, but you're not me. I don't seem to recall you ever having trouble calling people scum or taking hard stances in any game, IML or not.

2) I'm going with feels this game; I don't honestly care if you think my stuff is crap, fishy or unjustified. I will however pay attention to your posting a little more going forward and consider the point of asking you going forward---much easier to do this mid-conversation than going back and trying to ask you why you made certain posts.

3) You do need to prove me wrong if you're going to attempt to start calling me scum, if that's where you're going with the suspicion in your post earlier. Hey, I'll ask you now. What is the purpose behind this post?
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On February 05 2014 15:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 05 2014 12:04 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 05 2014 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I dunno. Maybe marv is mafia. I have never seen town!marv not read the thread properly, especially when he talks about his scumread.


What? Don't call marv obviously town for no reason and then call him scummy again. That is fucking bullshit. If your can change that fast how was he obviously town in the first place?

On February 05 2014 05:43 marvellosity wrote:
I mean if you think Artanis is mafia then you have no grounds to be asking why I am "so bad" this game when the person I want to kill you also think is mafia.


That is also odd.

God I hope you actually are town this game rayn.

Because marv has called me scum for days with absolutely no reasoning. Then i lay out my scumreads (which btw include Artanis) and he cames in and asks me this retarded question about if Artanis is my townread.

Another dude who calls me scum for absolutely no reasoning is Wave. He sneakily adds it in multiple places and never explains his read in detail.


1) Yes and in case you have not noticed i have already taken a stance, BEFORE you called me out for not taking a stance. tsk tsk
2) Well then my read on you stands because "feels" is not reasoning as noone can ever answer you.
3) I have already said why i think you are mafia. And the purpose of the post you quoted was to clarify to DP why i think marv might be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:27 GMT
#763
On February 05 2014 16:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 16:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn did tell me before the game started he was trying a different style this game.

I remember that, hence be not jumping all over him for it constantly, but the fact remains, whatever new 'style' he is choosing he hasn't bothered to push anyone today and much of his posting doesn't accomplish much.

If that's his new style, I don't see what he's attempting to accomplish with it.

I have laid out my three scumreads. I have given reasoning to all these reads. I am considering marv as fourth and i have no read on Cephiro.
There is no reason for me to push anyone at this point. If you wanna speed hammer me for it go ahead, i don't give a shit.

Um, wat.
You have no votes on you at all as far as I can tell, and you're clearly not #1 OR even 2 on my scumlist, nor have I ever even referred to you specifically as scum this game.
What prompted this insanely defensive post exactly?

Because that's is mafia mindset. Calling someone scum without actually calling them scum, not to mention without giving any proper reasoning for a read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:28 GMT
#764
DP what is your read on marv?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:32 GMT
#767
Well that is a lie Wave.
On February 05 2014 04:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Prome, Artanis, Wave. read on Cephiro is pending.

Other people seem more or less town.


On February 05 2014 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Post Prome's comeback i could not understand a single thing he said, he just... flung some words somewhere...
Post Wave's comeback he said pretty much nothing and suddenly had a scumread on me based on me "doing nothing"???
Artanis' posts were just.. terrible.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:37 GMT
#771
On February 05 2014 16:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2014 16:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 05 2014 16:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn did tell me before the game started he was trying a different style this game.

I remember that, hence be not jumping all over him for it constantly, but the fact remains, whatever new 'style' he is choosing he hasn't bothered to push anyone today and much of his posting doesn't accomplish much.

If that's his new style, I don't see what he's attempting to accomplish with it.

I have laid out my three scumreads. I have given reasoning to all these reads. I am considering marv as fourth and i have no read on Cephiro.
There is no reason for me to push anyone at this point. If you wanna speed hammer me for it go ahead, i don't give a shit.

Um, wat.
You have no votes on you at all as far as I can tell, and you're clearly not #1 OR even 2 on my scumlist, nor have I ever even referred to you specifically as scum this game.
What prompted this insanely defensive post exactly?

Because that's is mafia mindset. Calling someone scum without actually calling them scum, not to mention without giving any proper reasoning for a read.

No, that doesn't answer the question. Why do you feel the need to be so insanely defensive when nothing prompted it? Even if you think I'm scum, you're obviously not in danger of being lynched, never mind 'speed hammered' by one fucking person.

I am not being defensive. I am pointing out your lies and fishy reasoning for your reads.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:43 GMT
#775
I was being mad at people calling me scum for some bullshit "feels" and because of "marvs sentiment" which is fucking bullshit because i have already answered his case and he keeps posting stupid shit, wants people to discuss me and the instant someone disagrees with his read on me he goes silent and does not bring the issue up again and just goes back to his stupid list.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:44 GMT
#777
And yes, that's why i think marv is mafia. Lemme read wave's posts more carefully now. I don't think he is a good lynch or a good shot anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
February 05 2014 07:45 GMT
#779
Wave. Let's make a deal.

I get your point about my defensiveness or whatever you call it, but you are wrong. Let's look into other people because apparently neither of us wants to lynch the other one. Okay?
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