• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:14
CEST 11:14
KST 18:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced50BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 722 users

[I][T][M] Vengeful Mini Mafia! - Page 3

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 All
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 02:30 GMT
#263
On February 04 2014 11:29 marvellosity wrote:
TOO LATE IAMP

i use less words so my post is better.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 02:32 GMT
#265
On February 04 2014 11:30 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 11:24 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:17 iamperfection wrote:
do you remember this dp?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=25#482



Yes. That is why you calling me scum for it is dumb.

then why didn't you learn anything from it.


Because people intentionally trolling me makes me emotional. and that is sometimes difficult to control. If everyone could control their emotions all the time that would be great. It is also impossible.

Why are you calling me scum for doing the same thing that I did to you as town? When you clearly remember that situation enough to quote it to me?

because you eventually tried to hunt scum. I don't think your doing that if you contest that holy would be your shot.


You know if you have a fault you should try to fix it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 02:33 GMT
#267
On February 04 2014 11:32 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 11:29 marvellosity wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:28 Promethelax wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:25 Holyflare wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:23 Promethelax wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:19 marvellosity wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:15 Promethelax wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:09 Promethelax wrote:
I kinda really want to lynch DP for martyring.

I hate people who vote themselves in IML.

Policy: all lynches occur on the third day of the day cycle.


It's not the same in this setup because you get a vig shot bro.


one bad shot and lylo. Totally the same, lynching scum>vigging them. Actually maybe not now that I write it down. Would prefer to lynch a townie who was on the margins of looking scummy and have them shoot a scum. It will confirm two alignments.

Was thinking in the pre game if one player is kicking ass and taking names for town scum may actually choose to bus to be able to use their shot on said player. We should not be too confidant that those who push scum are town. There is valid reason for scum to bus even when neither scum is in danger.


That is a fucking stupid plan if you are scum.

Actually it's interesting and worth spending at least some thought on.

Some time down the line you have player A and player B, both are suspicious and town is deciding between them. One mafia one townie. One is going to be lynched, the other will be vigged by the lynched player (seems a sensible play).

Makes sense for the mafia in that situation to bus the mafia, so the mafia dies and doesn't flip, and the townie flips. Probably a better result for mafia than the townie not flipping and shooting the mafia who does flip.

So it seems there's probably situations where bussing might be optimal for mafia


It is actually a great plan for mafia. Even more than that the bussed mafia can shoot bigawesometownie1 and next day it is likely that town will lynch scummylookingtowniewhowasupforlynch since lynchedmafiaplayerX didn't shoot him.

Does DP saying that a great plan for mafia is shitty make him scum? Yes/no?


That is why we come to a consensus and make the people we lynch shoot specific targets.


Can I assume for a minute that you are not dumb? Given your play in past games I think I can assume that. Why will mafia do what we tell them? If we all get together to lynch Cephero and he says he'll shoot artanis but really shoots marv how do we punish him for that? We don't. He is already dead. So why are you harping on this point. You haven't thought about this at all, have you?

Play nice.

That scenario removes the doubt from Cephiro's flip, which is a decently good thing.


Given that we lynched him I'd say we're reasonably sure. I still think scum killing townie#1 and town knowing that dead guy=scum is > for scum than townie#4 being dead and town not knowing if dead=scum

maybe that is just me though.

wat !?! you never mislynch people?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 02:38 GMT
#276
On February 04 2014 11:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 11:32 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:24 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:17 iamperfection wrote:
do you remember this dp?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=25#482



Yes. That is why you calling me scum for it is dumb.

then why didn't you learn anything from it.


Because people intentionally trolling me makes me emotional. and that is sometimes difficult to control. If everyone could control their emotions all the time that would be great. It is also impossible.

Why are you calling me scum for doing the same thing that I did to you as town? When you clearly remember that situation enough to quote it to me?

because you eventually tried to hunt scum. I don't think your doing that if you contest that holy would be your shot.


You know if you have a fault you should try to fix it.


I would have shot you in that other game just because I was mad. So not alignment indicative at all.

bullshit

you put shit aside and hunted scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 02:46 GMT
#285
On February 04 2014 11:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 11:38 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:32 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:24 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On February 04 2014 11:17 iamperfection wrote:
do you remember this dp?


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=25#482



Yes. That is why you calling me scum for it is dumb.

then why didn't you learn anything from it.


Because people intentionally trolling me makes me emotional. and that is sometimes difficult to control. If everyone could control their emotions all the time that would be great. It is also impossible.

Why are you calling me scum for doing the same thing that I did to you as town? When you clearly remember that situation enough to quote it to me?

because you eventually tried to hunt scum. I don't think your doing that if you contest that holy would be your shot.


You know if you have a fault you should try to fix it.


I would have shot you in that other game just because I was mad. So not alignment indicative at all.

bullshit

you put shit aside and hunted scum.


Like 24 hours later. I literally went to bed in between. Read the thread you are quoting. This game is 3 hours old or something. Not the same thing.

that is false maybe you should read the thread im quoting.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 02:49 GMT
#286
this whole discussion about artanis claiming being alignment indicative is pointless. The claim is irrelevant in my view. We should just see what he has to say when he get back. Im null on artanis he hasn't done anything in my view and its still early.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 02:55 GMT
#292
On February 04 2014 11:50 Promethelax wrote:
While we sit around waiting for DP to sift through Art's filters shall we move this discussion away from Dp and towards HF? Yes, yes we shall.

Why did Holy just vanish, he was here excited to be playing but when things got hot he got out of the kitchen. He was here to claim a mindmeld and here to argue its validity but he hasn't provided anything new to the discussion. Is HF scum? Inside sources say yes.

um he seemed to me to be putting quite the spotlight on himself with his cases on dp and he pretty much shit posted with dp for awhile while promoting discussion. dont seem like scum things to me. maybe you should check your sources.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 02:56 GMT
#294
On February 04 2014 11:55 DarthPunk wrote:
OK I just went and looked through all his games and he has only claimed scum once as mafia in his last game.

ok....
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 02:59 GMT
#297
On February 04 2014 11:57 DarthPunk wrote:
He claims shit all the time in voice though so I am not sure how applicable that is.

so we agree its irrelevant.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 03:47 GMT
#333
maybe im trying to figure out your alignment.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 03:48 GMT
#334
at least you didnt pick up your ball and go home so maybe you are town
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 03:53 GMT
#336
On February 04 2014 12:49 Promethelax wrote:
Iamp: since you are here wanna join in the fun? Do WoS.

no. i dont like being told what to do. I do as i please.

but if you really do want to see stuff i had some inklings earlier on the subject im sure you can find. they arent strong though
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 04:16 GMT
#340
On February 04 2014 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah, come to think of it, you never answered me.
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave?

Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one).

I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game.

then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show.

Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched.

Is there a particular reason you're pushing this?


because what you said makes no sense.

You say im going to totes be watching you marv so closely but then admit he isn't hard to read. Those two statements cant go together. Which would therefore imply that you dont really intend to watch him closely and are just using that language for show. therefore you would be scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 04:21 GMT
#343
On February 04 2014 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2014 13:16 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 13:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh yeah, come to think of it, you never answered me.
On February 04 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:49 iamperfection wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
On February 04 2014 09:40 iamperfection wrote:
do you find marv hard to read wave?

Considering I 'caught' him very early in the game in Shadow (though I didn't believe myself at the time) I'd say probably not, though at that point I also had never played a game with scum-marv before and there was a lot of other shit going down in thread all game, and marv survived so obviously neither I nor anyone else can really take any credit at all. At the very least I'd feel more confident in my ability to catch him in future games (including this one).

I'd probably find rayn my personal 'hardest to read' in this particular game.

then i dont get why you would need to watch him like a "hawk". Unless you are just saying things for show.

Iamp, you're talking a lot about shit you don't understand. Nobody paid much attention to marv at all in Shadow game including me and he got away all game not doing a hell of a lot. Had I or anyone else paid more attention to him (which was rather difficult given the other lynch candidates in thread and how marv played), he may very well have been caught and lynched.

Is there a particular reason you're pushing this?


because what you said makes no sense.

You say im going to totes be watching you marv so closely but then admit he isn't hard to read. Those two statements cant go together. Which would therefore imply that you dont really intend to watch him closely and are just using that language for show. therefore you would be scum.

It makes perfect sense iamp.
I said I'm watching him closely because despite not being too hard to read, he still didn't get lynched last game because PEOPLE DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO HIM.

Hence, I am paying attention to him closely in this game.
Flerp herp derp.


Like...am I missing something that's hard to understand here that I've had to repeat myself?

You didnt pay attention to him because he was playing circles around you guys and just wont admit it. This whole we all totally knew he was scum is bs.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 04:36 GMT
#345
no i said it isnt a strong read.

your right when you say its different when your from an outside but it seems like half the people in that game are going i totally knew it that marv was scum yet there wasn't even really a case brought against him the entire game implies you guys are delusional.

but we are getting off topic

This is my thought process spelled out slowly for you.

1. Wave says he will be watching marv closely
2. iamperfection wonders why and ask if he has trouble reading marv.
3. Wave says he dosnt think marv is hard to read.
4. This does not compute for iamperfection with the watching closely.

When people seem to have thought process that make no sense to me it makes me think they might be scum.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
February 04 2014 04:36 GMT
#346
past my bed time now
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Prev 1 2 3 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 291
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 11553
Hyuk 2739
ggaemo 1561
firebathero 1147
Hyun 651
Larva 638
actioN 569
Leta 334
Noble 205
Dewaltoss 101
[ Show more ]
Mong 68
ivOry 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever653
XcaliburYe527
ODPixel170
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1059
Super Smash Bros
Westballz29
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor268
Other Games
summit1g7739
gofns6685
Fuzer 182
Mew2King82
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 2042
UltimateBattle 156
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta54
• Dystopia_ 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV380
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
46m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
4h 46m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
6h 46m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
1d 1h
OSC
1d 14h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.