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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 00:37 GMT
#1337
All I ask is if rayn flips red follow this post.

On February 07 2014 09:27 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 09:24 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:24 LSB wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:19 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:19 LSB wrote:
Fuuukkk. I just realized that since marv isn't dead Rayn is probably mafia.

I'll do your dirty work for you marv

##unvote
##Vote LSB

Explain? O.o

If I were mafia and both you and rayn were town, I would be like support your plan and would have lynched you by now so you can shoot rayn. Boom, two townies dead. EZ Day 2.

Since you aren't lynched yet, I can only assume that mafia don't want to see you go

you know, in a funny way, this does in fact make sense.


Lynch me instead, if Rayn flips red that basically confirms Marv as town, follow the endgame scenario detailed below
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 06:56 LSB wrote:
3 Players- Unconfirmed Townie, Confirmed Townie, Scum.
Unconfirmed Townie votes self and then shoots Scum. Town win

5 Players- 3 Unconfirmed Townies, Confirmed Townie, 1 Scum
Unconfirmed Townie votes self and shoots someone other than confirmed townie. This moves on to the 3 player lylo situation. Town win


GGWP Town victory


If Rayn is red, we can safely gamble that Marv is town.

Day 3
3 Town
1 Marv
1 Mafia

A Townies says "Lets follow LSB's plan" and votes himself. The townie then shoots anyone else but marv. If the town his mafia, game over. If the town hits town we move onto

Day 4
1 Town
1 Marv
1 Mafia

A townie says "Lets follow LSB's plan" and votes himself. The townie then shoots the guy who isn't marv. If marv is mafia we pat him on the back and say GGWP
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 00:38 GMT
#1340
Why do you guys care about ending cycles early? Day 3 can be 2 fucking weeks long if you need the time.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 00:49 GMT
#1368
Put your money where your mouth is Cephiro and vote me
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 00:52 GMT
#1377
[image loading]
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Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 00:54 GMT
#1388
On February 07 2014 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
LSB would you lynch me?

I would if people are convinced that I am town if Rayn flips red. Thus LSB plan would work. The main reason why I don't want to lynch you is that I want to reach a situation where we have a confirmed townie at lylo
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 00:56 GMT
#1392
Sounds fishy as hell but at least we will force DP to do something

##unvote
##vote: marvellosity
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 01:00 GMT
#1399
##Salute: Marvellosity
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 01:12 GMT
#1419
If you believe that I am town, all we need to do is follow this chain of events.

On February 07 2014 09:37 LSB wrote:
All I ask is if rayn flips red follow this post.

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 09:27 LSB wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:24 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:24 LSB wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:19 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:19 LSB wrote:
Fuuukkk. I just realized that since marv isn't dead Rayn is probably mafia.

I'll do your dirty work for you marv

##unvote
##Vote LSB

Explain? O.o

If I were mafia and both you and rayn were town, I would be like support your plan and would have lynched you by now so you can shoot rayn. Boom, two townies dead. EZ Day 2.

Since you aren't lynched yet, I can only assume that mafia don't want to see you go

you know, in a funny way, this does in fact make sense.


Lynch me instead, if Rayn flips red that basically confirms Marv as town, follow the endgame scenario detailed below
On February 07 2014 06:56 LSB wrote:
3 Players- Unconfirmed Townie, Confirmed Townie, Scum.
Unconfirmed Townie votes self and then shoots Scum. Town win

5 Players- 3 Unconfirmed Townies, Confirmed Townie, 1 Scum
Unconfirmed Townie votes self and shoots someone other than confirmed townie. This moves on to the 3 player lylo situation. Town win


GGWP Town victory


If Rayn is red, we can safely gamble that Marv is town.

Day 3
3 Town
1 Marv
1 Mafia

A Townies says "Lets follow LSB's plan" and votes himself. The townie then shoots anyone else but marv. If the town his mafia, game over. If the town hits town we move onto

Day 4
1 Town
1 Marv
1 Mafia

A townie says "Lets follow LSB's plan" and votes himself. The townie then shoots the guy who isn't marv. If marv is mafia we pat him on the back and say GGWP

Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 01:13 GMT
#1423
WoS would you commit suicide to kill HF?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 01:14 GMT
#1427
God dammit
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 01:20 GMT
#1436
Lets shit on dead people when there are not here and can't respond yay
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 01:22 GMT
#1439
LSB's suicide assistance service

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I am formally announcing the opening of LSB's suicide assistance center. If you have a problem with someone (who is not me) and would like to take the matter in your own hands, I will happily assist you in your endeavor. Simply vote for yourself and I will help you along your journey to a town victory.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 01:23 GMT
#1443
##Vote Holyflare
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 02:21 GMT
#1463
I have been following this plan since the end of Day 2. Just switch around the names of me and marv

On February 07 2014 09:37 LSB wrote:
All I ask is if rayn flips red follow this post.

Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 09:27 LSB wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:24 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:24 LSB wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:19 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:19 LSB wrote:
Fuuukkk. I just realized that since marv isn't dead Rayn is probably mafia.

I'll do your dirty work for you marv

##unvote
##Vote LSB

Explain? O.o

If I were mafia and both you and rayn were town, I would be like support your plan and would have lynched you by now so you can shoot rayn. Boom, two townies dead. EZ Day 2.

Since you aren't lynched yet, I can only assume that mafia don't want to see you go

you know, in a funny way, this does in fact make sense.


Lynch me instead, if Rayn flips red that basically confirms Marv as town, follow the endgame scenario detailed below
On February 07 2014 06:56 LSB wrote:
3 Players- Unconfirmed Townie, Confirmed Townie, Scum.
Unconfirmed Townie votes self and then shoots Scum. Town win

5 Players- 3 Unconfirmed Townies, Confirmed Townie, 1 Scum
Unconfirmed Townie votes self and shoots someone other than confirmed townie. This moves on to the 3 player lylo situation. Town win


GGWP Town victory


If Rayn is red, we can safely gamble that Marv is town.

Day 3
3 Town
1 Marv
1 Mafia

A Townies says "Lets follow LSB's plan" and votes himself. The townie then shoots anyone else but marv. If the town his mafia, game over. If the town hits town we move onto

Day 4
1 Town
1 Marv
1 Mafia

A townie says "Lets follow LSB's plan" and votes himself. The townie then shoots the guy who isn't marv. If marv is mafia we pat him on the back and say GGWP


We have arrived at an endgame situation and I will do my best to convince you that I am town.

1) The whole Day 2 Debacle. In the day 2 debacle I pushed you guys to lynch me so I could get Rayn. Imagine how stupid would that be if I was mafia. If I shot rayn, there would be 0 mafia members remaining, and thus I would lose. If I don't shoot rayn and instead I shot a townie, I would cast heavy suspicion on rayn and just commit suicide for no apparent reason.

But LSB, you ask, what if it was a bus and you were insane and risked being hammer just so you can appear townie? That is a huge risk just so I can bus my partner. Theoretically if DP was mafia it would make sense, but just from a simple headcount it would be impossible for both me and DP to be mafia.

2) Dead townies want you to believe I am confirmed town

On February 07 2014 09:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 09:54 LSB wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
LSB would you lynch me?

I would if people are convinced that I am town if Rayn flips red. Thus LSB plan would work. The main reason why I don't want to lynch you is that I want to reach a situation where we have a confirmed townie at lylo

you will be confirmed town when rayn flips red. Because I will be confirmed town and I vouch for you 100%. let's do it.

##unvote
##vote: marvellosity

On February 07 2014 09:56 marvellosity wrote:
LSB is by far the towniest dude in the thread.


On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
Iamperfection: seemed really townie. He niggled in ways I liked during early game. I'm sad he replaced out since he was making sense and generally read as town.
Lsb: has clearly thought about the set up from a town perspective. This gels with both my past experience with town lsb (PYPLOL) and my read of imp as town.


Promethelax and Marvellosity have sacrificed themselves for the town to arrive at this conclusion. We need to make sure their deaths are not in vane.


If you are convinced that I am town what we need to do to win is have you vote yourself, and then shoot the other player.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 02:25 GMT
#1465
All I ask of you is to go over day 2 again and convince yourself that I am town
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 02:29 GMT
#1466
On February 07 2014 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 11:21 LSB wrote:
I have been following this plan since the end of Day 2. Just switch around the names of me and marv

On February 07 2014 09:37 LSB wrote:
All I ask is if rayn flips red follow this post.

On February 07 2014 09:27 LSB wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:24 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:24 LSB wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:19 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:19 LSB wrote:
Fuuukkk. I just realized that since marv isn't dead Rayn is probably mafia.

I'll do your dirty work for you marv

##unvote
##Vote LSB

Explain? O.o

If I were mafia and both you and rayn were town, I would be like support your plan and would have lynched you by now so you can shoot rayn. Boom, two townies dead. EZ Day 2.

Since you aren't lynched yet, I can only assume that mafia don't want to see you go

you know, in a funny way, this does in fact make sense.


Lynch me instead, if Rayn flips red that basically confirms Marv as town, follow the endgame scenario detailed below
On February 07 2014 06:56 LSB wrote:
3 Players- Unconfirmed Townie, Confirmed Townie, Scum.
Unconfirmed Townie votes self and then shoots Scum. Town win

5 Players- 3 Unconfirmed Townies, Confirmed Townie, 1 Scum
Unconfirmed Townie votes self and shoots someone other than confirmed townie. This moves on to the 3 player lylo situation. Town win


GGWP Town victory


If Rayn is red, we can safely gamble that Marv is town.

Day 3
3 Town
1 Marv
1 Mafia

A Townies says "Lets follow LSB's plan" and votes himself. The townie then shoots anyone else but marv. If the town his mafia, game over. If the town hits town we move onto

Day 4
1 Town
1 Marv
1 Mafia

A townie says "Lets follow LSB's plan" and votes himself. The townie then shoots the guy who isn't marv. If marv is mafia we pat him on the back and say GGWP


We have arrived at an endgame situation and I will do my best to convince you that I am town.

1) The whole Day 2 Debacle. In the day 2 debacle I pushed you guys to lynch me so I could get Rayn. Imagine how stupid would that be if I was mafia. If I shot rayn, there would be 0 mafia members remaining, and thus I would lose. If I don't shoot rayn and instead I shot a townie, I would cast heavy suspicion on rayn and just commit suicide for no apparent reason.

But LSB, you ask, what if it was a bus and you were insane and risked being hammer just so you can appear townie? That is a huge risk just so I can bus my partner. Theoretically if DP was mafia it would make sense, but just from a simple headcount it would be impossible for both me and DP to be mafia.

2) Dead townies want you to believe I am confirmed town

On February 07 2014 09:55 marvellosity wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:54 LSB wrote:
On February 07 2014 09:52 marvellosity wrote:
LSB would you lynch me?

I would if people are convinced that I am town if Rayn flips red. Thus LSB plan would work. The main reason why I don't want to lynch you is that I want to reach a situation where we have a confirmed townie at lylo

you will be confirmed town when rayn flips red. Because I will be confirmed town and I vouch for you 100%. let's do it.

##unvote
##vote: marvellosity

On February 07 2014 09:56 marvellosity wrote:
LSB is by far the towniest dude in the thread.


On February 05 2014 13:21 Promethelax wrote:
Iamperfection: seemed really townie. He niggled in ways I liked during early game. I'm sad he replaced out since he was making sense and generally read as town.
Lsb: has clearly thought about the set up from a town perspective. This gels with both my past experience with town lsb (PYPLOL) and my read of imp as town.


Promethelax and Marvellosity have sacrificed themselves for the town to arrive at this conclusion. We need to make sure their deaths are not in vane.


If you are convinced that I am town what we need to do to win is have you vote yourself, and then shoot the other player.


The only reason marv agreed with your plan was because you said you would shoot rayn. You didn't ACTUALLY shoot rayn, you quick hammered fucking holy flare for no reason and now the magical way to win the game is for you to 'not die'

Let's step back and pretend I am mafia on day 2, and take a second to consider what happens if I lynch myself.

I can't shoot rayn, since he is mafia and then we would lose.

So I have to shoot someone else. Even though I promised I would shoot rayn. So essentially I am committing suicide to cast more suspicion on my scumbuddy, which is basically impossible.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 02:35 GMT
#1469
I had 3 votes, and it was 4 votes to be hammered. If anyone simply typed Vote LSB I would have died
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 02:37 GMT
#1470
##VOTE: LSB
#YOLOSWAG
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 02:39 GMT
#1472
##KILL: DarthPunk
##YOLOSWAG
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 07 2014 02:46 GMT
#1484
On February 07 2014 11:45 DarthPunk wrote:
gg's I was scum. That game was painful and weird. Good job LSB.

Wayyyy to town favored. Only town can commit suicide and that just confirms too much people
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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