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On February 04 2014 09:20 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 08:29 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 08:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also I'd be totally in favour of lynching scumclainers. There does seem to be some truth to holy's 'case,k though the only examle I can think of was ## maybe?
Ill look when I'm not on my phone. I don't get it? There's some truth to my case but you can only think of 1 example? Those 2 things are contradicting statements. Wave I still want you to address this. What is there to address? On re-reading your 'case' on Artanis I actually realize I don't like it much because I didn't see at first you were referring to voice, which I believe should basically be completely disregarded as evidence for forum mafia. It got me thinking though and so I am where I am. I don't really see what's contradictory though, unless you consider my only having one example thus far being contradictory but imo weak != contradictory.
Artanis is quite clearly playing this game in the style of voice mafia as he has referenced that he joined this for fun (not srs forum mafia funz) so my statement referred to that medium. With the amount of games that have been played on TL to say the case holds truth but only to have 1 example that isn't the same as this game's claim is worse than weak and so contradictary is the only term to use here.
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On February 04 2014 09:42 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:32 marvellosity wrote:
That's the best early game meta case I've ever seen. what do you like about it? i didn't find it that compelling.
.......*whoosh*
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if marv is scum I will catch him for you don't worry about that
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On February 04 2014 09:49 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh hey I have a poignant question:
How do we plan on dealing with Cephiro this game?
We don't exactly have vig shots to 'waste' if he plans on being lurk city.
we have a lot of vig shots what are you saying?
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Ok enough trolling.
I'm calling out DP for his weird shitty posts so far.
On February 04 2014 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Well. WE should lynch artanis. The dude claimed scum. If someone claims scum, you lynch them. Pretty easy right>?
First, he starts off by saying this. I do not know whether it was a joke or not but I am almost sure that it was in fact serious based on his later post.
However, what piqued my interest was by the way he differentiated artanis' "joke" claim and wave's/marv's posts. For example:
On February 04 2014 08:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:23 marvellosity wrote:On February 04 2014 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
So close.
I was so damn close, and then reroll.
Anyway, ##vote: marv 'cause policy. We can't have someone of your apparent unlynchability running around these parts so it will be my job to draw any and all attention to you as necessary. Given this is a vengeful game, this is probably the stupidest thing you could possibly have written. Every single person that gets lynched can shoot me if they so please. That was clearly a joke right? Dno why you would treat it like it meant something.
He calls out marv for getting all antsy on WoS's joke and questions why he would jump on it but then like 5 posts later he actually delves into calling out artanis and wanting him to reason out why he said he was mafia, treating it like it meant something.
On February 04 2014 09:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Artanis. For what reason did you claim scum? Do you think town is more likely to claim scum or that mafia are. What reason does town have to claim mafia ever?
This is quite clearly a drastic change in mindset and an opener that I'd equivocate to scum trying to start weaving a fabrication in the thread.
Also, DP tried to rationalise artanis' intentions:
On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
The difference with those claims is the undertone of fake claiming mafia in order for mafia to out themselves. I guess artanis kind of did this though.
For no good reason. Not trying to figure anything out, just poking in places where he thinks he can form an elaborate web of lies.
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On February 04 2014 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Well that is a shitty case Holyflare.
Firstly you were in Titanic II so you know that that is my position on scum claims. Vayne claimed scum and I pushed for his lynch.
Secondly I differentiate between Artanis claiming scum and Wave poking at marv cause I don;t see the point of ever claiming scum as town.
Thirdly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say I'm trying to weave a fabrication in the thread. I want to know how artanis feels about scum claims in general in order to learn something of his mindset.
And lastly there was a good reason. I was commenting on something wave posted in which that very thing had happened.
This. Specifically. You aren't pushing for a lynch on Artanis. In fact, you rationalised SOMEHOW that his fake claim was the same as the one WoS linked that was trying to draw out other mafia claims.
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On February 04 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Well that is a shitty case Holyflare.
Firstly you were in Titanic II so you know that that is my position on scum claims. Vayne claimed scum and I pushed for his lynch.
Secondly I differentiate between Artanis claiming scum and Wave poking at marv cause I don;t see the point of ever claiming scum as town.
Thirdly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say I'm trying to weave a fabrication in the thread. I want to know how artanis feels about scum claims in general in order to learn something of his mindset.
And lastly there was a good reason. I was commenting on something wave posted in which that very thing had happened.
This. Specifically. You aren't pushing for a lynch on Artanis. In fact, you rationalised SOMEHOW that his fake claim was the same as the one WoS linked that was trying to draw out other mafia claims. lol I could take this one but instead imma let DP handle this.
On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
The difference with those claims is the undertone of fake claiming mafia in order for mafia to out themselves.
I guess artanis kind of did this though. [/QUOTE]
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EBWOP:
On February 04 2014 10:21 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Well that is a shitty case Holyflare.
Firstly you were in Titanic II so you know that that is my position on scum claims. Vayne claimed scum and I pushed for his lynch.
Secondly I differentiate between Artanis claiming scum and Wave poking at marv cause I don;t see the point of ever claiming scum as town.
Thirdly, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you say I'm trying to weave a fabrication in the thread. I want to know how artanis feels about scum claims in general in order to learn something of his mindset.
And lastly there was a good reason. I was commenting on something wave posted in which that very thing had happened.
This. Specifically. You aren't pushing for a lynch on Artanis. In fact, you rationalised SOMEHOW that his fake claim was the same as the one WoS linked that was trying to draw out other mafia claims. lol I could take this one but instead imma let DP handle this.
On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
The difference with those claims is the undertone of fake claiming mafia in order for mafia to out themselves. I guess artanis kind of did this though.
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In fact, WoS why are you opting out of discussion? DP literally just stated that he pushed for people that claim scum's lynch. Has he been doing that here?
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I fail to see how pointing out the blatant disparity between your posts makes my case shitty. You say you're waiting for artanis to respond about his "mindset", what the hell is he going to say??? "I think people that claim mafia should be lynched at all costs" or what? Nothing he can possibly reply is alignment indicative in any way shape or form so waiting for it is useless and thus his post becomes massive wifom. Why not pressure him to reply on alternate points in the game to see how he responds instead?
Other people may not have contributed but they haven't been playing objectively scummy on first glance. (maybe wave but I want to wait till hey gets to a computer).
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On February 04 2014 10:35 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 08:10 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On February 04 2014 08:04 Holyflare wrote:On February 04 2014 08:02 iamperfection wrote:
Who else is town? That's a terrible question, we want to know who ISN'T town. I'm Mafia. How about you? Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 09:15 DarthPunk wrote:
The difference with those claims is the undertone of fake claiming mafia in order for mafia to out themselves. I guess artanis kind of did this though. He literally asked you if you were mafia in that post Holyflare, so how the fuck do you not know what I am talking about?
Yes. Blatant asking is definitely "undertones". Quite clear there.
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On February 04 2014 10:38 iamperfection wrote:
dp what do you think of holy so far alignment wise?
What do you think of what I said about DP's start to the game?
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On February 04 2014 10:44 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:38 iamperfection wrote:
dp what do you think of holy so far alignment wise? Fucking awful. Pushing awful cases for no reason makes zero fucking sense to me.
On February 04 2014 10:41 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
I fail to see how pointing out the blatant disparity between your posts makes my case shitty. You say you're waiting for artanis to respond about his "mindset", what the hell is he going to say??? "I think people that claim mafia should be lynched at all costs" or what? Nothing he can possibly reply is alignment indicative in any way shape or form so waiting for it is useless and thus his post becomes massive wifom. Why not pressure him to reply on alternate points in the game to see how he responds instead?
Other people may not have contributed but they haven't been playing objectively scummy on first glance. (maybe wave but I want to wait till hey gets to a computer). You have no idea how I was going to follow up those questions holyflare, I basically had the same situation occur in the other game I'm in and I handled it the same way. Just because you don't understand what I am trying to do does not mean you need to shit all over me for it and ruin anything I may have asked him as a follow up by forcing me to respond to your shit case.
Double standards is not a good thing to have. Why is the word that should be on the tip of your tongue (scum) not coming out?
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On February 04 2014 10:45 iamperfection wrote:
dp can get emotional as town.
answer my question dp its quite a simple one.
Yes. There is a difference though. Getting emotional in the game when people aren't doing something or are town that aren't listening is when it mostly happens. Getting emotional at someone pushing "shit cases" and being "awful" shouldn't trigger those same emotions though, your first thought should be that they are scum pushing an agenda and then further investigate. Especially as DP has said "HF is a good town player that I listened to" (in Titanic). So if he thinks I am being shit in this game he should jump to the conclusion that I am being scum. Yet, this anger relates to someone that has a scum mindset of a towny pushing a case that doesn't "make sense to me even if I AM scum".
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On February 04 2014 10:52 iamperfection wrote:
although i would like more time
I agree. We can put DP on the backburner because we have infinite time.
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Can it be? 3 man mind meld so soon????
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Can it be? 3 supersexualbeings brain link complete?
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On February 04 2014 10:54 DarthPunk wrote:
Holyflare literally said he would do this before the game on TS. then he posts stupid fucking nonsense about me. There is no point even playing if I have to deal with this bullshit from the start of the game onwards.
Yes so that was why I did a joke shit meta case on you. You can literally tell that I've started playing the game when I said "trolling is over now".
If you want to redeem yourself to the 3 people voting you. Explain this other game where you pulled this same strategy and what you hoped to achieve from artanis' responses?
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SO WHY ARE YOU MAD???????????????????
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