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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 18 2014 17:50 GMT
#1101
yeah i have no idea why they killed thrawn. prob because roundabout is scum and they knew thrawn wouldn't be prot?
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 18 2014 17:52 GMT
#1102
he thought jarjar and mordanis were scummy.
Kush and Vivax
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 17:53 GMT
#1103
Yeah...they probably thought he had a n0 check on one of them!
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 18 2014 17:55 GMT
#1104
On February 19 2014 02:38 IAmRobik wrote:
People openly role hunting ITT.

wtf? was the NesTea pic not an Fn cop claim? Why did you post it?
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 18 2014 17:57 GMT
#1105
On February 19 2014 02:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 23:10 VIVAX420 wrote:
Oh s hit I think ran moc might be scum. Thrawn looks bad also.

HOLY SHIT. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU POSTED THIS AND THEY STILL KILLED THRAWN. I WAS CERTAIN WE WERE GOING TO LYNCH HIM TODAY!
OK this might be the scummiest post I've seen from Irob this game.

"Lemme just point out how this is totally not the NK I would have chosen if I was scum"
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 18:00 GMT
#1106
Pg 1 of thrawn's 4 pg filter:

Sooooo Thrawn thought I was town with a vastly different approach to the game than him. Prolly confirms me as town.

On February 13 2014 06:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:31 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:28 Mordanis wrote:
I'm a little confused... Robik, are you really voting for thrawn for posting "hmmm", or is there more behind it?

On a side note, I think its looking a bit sketchy that it seems like we already have a vote on thrawn (for "hmm") and vivax building a meta case on him for lurking a few hours into the game, it feels like teamwork or opportunistic scum play...

Did you read his 5 posts today? Specifically the three before I voted. He was around. He saw that I pinged him and he chose not to respond instead of take initiative and actually do something.


The reason I didn't respond to your initial accusation was because I didn't take it seriously. I did not believe that a person could actually think a "hmm" post was scummy, so I thought you were either mafia doing a terrible job of faking suspicion, you were town and have a vastly different approach to the game than myself, or that you were town and your accusation was as much of a silly post as my "hmm" post was. Right now I am going with the 2nd option.


Mordanis = scum
Vivax = scum
Mordanis more scum than vivax

On February 13 2014 07:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
I'm gonna sleep now as well as unvoting because I know how you guys like to rush to lynches... here's my thoughts

Mordanis could be scum, his suspicions of vivax/robik look like they stem from him having knowledge of my alignment. He's suspicious of people because of their suspicions of a townie which is classic fake-scumhunting.

Vivax420 could be scum, he should know better than to make the meta case that he did.

Of the two I think Mordanis is more liekly to be mafia because of this post:

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:28 Mordanis wrote:
I'm a little confused... Robik, are you really voting for thrawn for posting "hmmm", or is there more behind it?

On a side note, I think its looking a bit sketchy that it seems like we already have a vote on thrawn (for "hmm") and vivax building a meta case on him for lurking a few hours into the game, it feels like teamwork or opportunistic scum play...


The following is a gut read so it's hard to explain, but the above quote feels constructed and fake. He starts off the 2nd paragraph by saying "on a side note" and he never gives a definitive read on any of the people he talks about, and both of these things suggest that he's not invested in scumhunting. His attempt to pursue his suspicions by questioning robik here:

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:36 Mordanis wrote:
I'm not sure I follow that argument. Is scum inherently lazy in your view, or does actual evidence always support town, rather than scum? I think its certainly possible that scum could find a previous game that could be used to lynch a townie.


is too.... reserved, bland, etc? I don't get the impression that he cares about what he's posting about.

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 18:02 GMT
#1107
On February 19 2014 02:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 02:39 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 18 2014 23:10 VIVAX420 wrote:
Oh s hit I think ran moc might be scum. Thrawn looks bad also.

HOLY SHIT. I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU POSTED THIS AND THEY STILL KILLED THRAWN. I WAS CERTAIN WE WERE GOING TO LYNCH HIM TODAY!
OK this might be the scummiest post I've seen from Irob this game.

"Lemme just point out how this is totally not the NK I would have chosen if I was scum"

The only way I'm getting lynched this game is if Mafia outnumbers town -- and at that point, we would have already lost.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 18:08 GMT
#1108
On pg 2 of Thrawn's filter, he continues to push on vivax. Pretty boring stuff since vivax is so obviously town.

Likes Mattchew:

On February 13 2014 20:49 thrawn2112 wrote:
I'm not too concerned about Mattchew right now. People seem to have problems with his play based on his meta and other stuff that I'm not privy to so I haven't put much thought into those arguments. The other issue raised about matt was his comment on sidesprang's post, and I agree with the read matt gave on ss's post so I'm not worried about that either.


Doesn't like sidesprang:

On February 13 2014 21:13 thrawn2112 wrote:
It doesn't have anything to do with the topic of conversation or the conclusion ss reached. The "nervous-mafia" bit applies to how he talks. Here it is for reference.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 04:18 sidesprang wrote:
ATM we can't figure it out, even if we knew the amount of boxers, I think atleast. So I see no reason in starting that debate atm. Just wait untill we get some flips, and then it might be usefull.

Just waste of time atm.


All the things I'm about to list are trivial and probably not alignment indicative but when added together they create the vibe of "nervous-mafia"

-atm's
-awkward use of commas
-"i think, at least"

The post doesn't feel right for a reason that is hard to explain but I think can be pretty accurately described as an awkward scum post.


JJD = scum

On February 15 2014 03:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
I can lynch JJD



Adjusted reads:
wouldn't lynch sidesprang, would lynch shiao (town), jjd, and mordanis

On February 15 2014 22:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
Someone asked me about sidesprang earlier? Nah I'm good on that, I dont wanna lynch him

right now I could kill any of shiaopi/JJD/ and maybe mordanis

IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 18:10 GMT
#1109
Still reading thrawn, but putting in a reminder for myself to look at voting patters for Shiao. Given that he was town, I think it's more likely that mafia are voting in the middle somewhere (votes 2-6) as opposed to vote 1 or 7.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 18 2014 18:15 GMT
#1110
Hey guys, I got role blocked last night. I feel pretty flattered about it.

My primary doubt in lynching shiao a few days ago was that I had a pretty solid scum read on mattchew, but I figured they both couldn't be scum because Mattchew was pushing him softley towards the start of the game(ie looking for traction minus the heat), and pretty openly as we approached lynch. With the flip bieng what it is, I'm almost certain that Matt is scum and I'm pretty impressed with how little attention hes gotten.

This is Mattchews longest post.

rayn i dont think sidesprang is mafia, in past games he is super serious as mafia and this game he seems pretty loose at the beginning willing to troll and joke around.

Also, that was some bullshit mocsta pulled, fucking awful play from either alignment and policy lynching you guys is what I want to do, but is not the way to lynch scum imo, cause i think your town

Gumshoe is interesting, I am trying to refrain from knee-jerk calling him scum

So far the people I am ok with dying are Shiaopi, Mordanis, Thrawn and maybe like Grack/Gum/QP



Heres what this post is saying line by line.

1: Hard meta defense of a fairly null player.

2: Says Moc is a jerk, thinks hes town cause reasons?

3: Says im interesting, but is scared to outright call me scum?

4: A list of lurkers and current lynch favourites.

This posts says very little, and yet it's his most content heavy, whats more it comes off almost as cowardly, like hes scared to accuse someone who will actually post back. I've never known Matt to be someones whose scarred to make accusations but this game he seems only willing to go after lurkers. His play comes off as fearful.

You can see that fear on display early on in the game here.

I don't think that grack and side are the same alignment.

( Easy way to take a stance without saying anything)

here

rayn, my town read on QP was hastey and unwarrented. I do not have a read on him currently

(eager to diffuse potential fights in the making)

and here, where he responds to a huge post belonging to dont panic by saying

"i'll sheep this other than jarjar"

The only two scum reads in donts post are jar jar and shiapi... This is the safest sheep I've ever seen. He can always point back to it if someone accuses him of jumping on the shiapi train but at the time its such a soft admission thats it's easy for it to go unnoticed. Which it did for the most part.

Mattchew is playing obsencley diplomatic this game, which is scummy in of itself and doubly so considering it just doesn't fit his play style.

With the lone exception of his read on Side Mattchew doesnt make arguments, or explain his convictions, he just throws his voice around and assumes it carries some weight. He has no interest in promoting town discussion, or defending himself, or providing reasons for his accusations. Its probally meant to come off as belligerent townie, but I've played with Matt before and this game he just seems to have no interest in developing the thread whatsoever, although he does seem to want to look like as if hes contributing and present when town needs him.

In general, Mattchew, a fairly argumentative player has done his best to avoid and diffuse arguments, ie here he attempts to dodge a fight with Rayn.

Actually a serious question Mattchew; Do you even read what people's posts say and do you think why do they say what they do?

i have my way of getting reads, you have yours, if you want to insult my reads you better be damn sure yours are correct


Rayn posted a reasonable case on Matt and Matt deigned to only respond to this one emotional tidbit. When Rayn got aggravated with the deflection Matt just ends the argument with an ultimatum that he knows Rayn lacks the power to act upon.


finally, he responded in similar fashion to my call out of him by saying I'm "interesting" and leaving it at that. He drops the thread there until much later in the game, after I've been inactive for a good long while, and says this.

mordanis and gumshoe would be great lynches



Once again no reasoning, and once again the target of his affections are two lurkers who may very well not post back at all.

The shallow boldness of his accusations are in direct conflict with the coward like manner in which he engages others. It's as if hes combined the worst bits of town bravado and scum passiveness to form what might very well be one of the most useless in game entities I've come across.

I also find Grack and Mordanis pretty fishy, but I'm not that confident about the Roni and as for Mord (whose done extremely little, even taking into account his trip) it's the same story as before, I dont think Matt and him are scum together and this time I aint going to make the mistake of not choosing Matt. But if the wind blows thier way I wouldnt mind lynching either of them.


Rather not lynch a lurker today, that didnt really work out last time (although Shiao wasn't exactly a lurker).

As for the night kills, I'm pretty sure scum were just trying to snipe blue, cant see any other reason why they would kill Thrawn.

Anyone have any questions for me?
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 18:16 GMT
#1111
Well that's pretty clear.

roundabound = town

On February 16 2014 17:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
stop voting roundabound



thrawn = mafia

On February 16 2014 17:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2014 17:33 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 16 2014 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
someone who is under no suspicion asks to be lynched and you think it's a good idea to indulge them? really?


Their is a big difference in asking to be lynched and claiming scum. I would consider asking to be lynched a null tell because it's TL mafia, but you can't say "I'm scum claiming" and not hinting at a joke whatsoever. Don't get me wrong, Rayn likes to be stupid to prove a point in dramatic ways, but I doubt they went over what mocsta just said as idle lynch bait.


I'm scum claiming


My (IAmRobik) own conclusion from Thrawn's pg 3 filter: bum probably scum
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
February 18 2014 18:19 GMT
#1112
didn't mattchew promise that he would eventually explain why he had a townread on me?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 18 2014 18:19 GMT
#1113
I like that case a lot Gumshoe.
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 18 2014 18:23 GMT
#1114
On February 19 2014 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I like that case a lot Gumshoe.


That makes things tough on me cause I'm not sure I like you ) : but I'll leave you be for now seeing as I'm pretty damm convinced Matt is scum.

Thoughts on bum and Jar? Had them pinged as town before but that might have been a bit presumptive.

Would really like to hear some more out of Bum especially.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 18:24 GMT
#1115
Gumshoe,

I don't have questions for you yet. I just read your case on Mattchew. It's interesting, but he would not be my top lynch today.

Sincerely,

IAmRobik
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 18 2014 18:26 GMT
#1116
On February 19 2014 03:23 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 03:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I like that case a lot Gumshoe.


That makes things tough on me cause I'm not sure I like you ) : but I'll leave you be for now seeing as I'm pretty damm convinced Matt is scum.

Thoughts on bum and Jar? Had them pinged as town before but that might have been a bit presumptive.

Would really like to hear some more out of Bum especially.

You don't have to like me. I'll help bus out all of those nasty scummers. Bum seemed pretty townie from what I saw of him. JJD might be scum.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 18:27 GMT
#1117
On February 18 2014 03:43 thrawn2112 wrote:
careful now robik, i fear you may succumb to the dark side

give in not to the tempations set before you, for the path to lynching scum requires a pure mind

alas. you have entered a most unholy realm, a realm known as such to all true men as tlmafia

though we profess our skill and fervor for lynching mafia, such cries only originate from a vocal minority

in this game, and in many recent others, the true face of tlmafia has shown itself, and it is darkness

so once more I beg of thee, give in not to the temptations set before you!


Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon you."
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
February 18 2014 18:29 GMT
#1118
On February 19 2014 02:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 02:38 IAmRobik wrote:
People openly role hunting ITT.

wtf? was the NesTea pic not an Fn cop claim? Why did you post it?


This will be the last thing said about blue roles today, there is only a parity cop or a doctor. There was no shot block and it's not day 2 yet. Aside from stupidity there is almost no reason to claim a role today (minus a fake boxer one in hopes of avoiding a lynch) and absolutely none for you to be asking about it.

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 18 2014 18:32 GMT
#1119
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roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 18 2014 18:43 GMT
#1120
On February 19 2014 03:29 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2014 02:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:
On February 19 2014 02:38 IAmRobik wrote:
People openly role hunting ITT.

wtf? was the NesTea pic not an Fn cop claim? Why did you post it?


This will be the last thing said about blue roles today, there is only a parity cop or a doctor. There was no shot block and it's not day 2 yet. Aside from stupidity there is almost no reason to claim a role today (minus a fake boxer one in hopes of avoiding a lynch) and absolutely none for you to be asking about it.


You know this how? Because i don't.

##Vote: gumshoe
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