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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 12:59 GMT
#495
that might be the wrongest thing ive ever seen anyone say ever. but yeah this is all pointless and mean because he's probably town.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 13:02 GMT
#496
he's assuming we have a "hell of a scumread" on everyone we ask a question of. Also that question that he said didn't belond was actually my question, and everyone else was vivax.

On February 13 2014 09:06 Mordanis wrote:
On vivax
I really don't like the way that vivax posted fluff, gave someone else evidence to start a case, and then left it all alone for everyone else to take care of, and then disappeared right afterwards. And then there's this post:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 06:17 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 13 2014 06:16 IAmRobik wrote:
People try to shush me when I play live games cause I talk to much...but in these games I'm free to provide all the content that I want!


do you talk a lot as scum too?

vivax goes from one hell of a scum read on thrawn (without really pushing anything) to one hell of a town read on Robik (without telling us why). In short, vivax seems incredibly confident about being right but hasn't really done anything useful aside from helping another player make a case. That seems like as much of a scum mindset as you can get.

Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 13:03 GMT
#497
like how does asking "do you talk a lot as scum too?" consistute "one hell of a scumread"?

it's the kind of thing where if i saw you making these arguments, rayn, i would be suspicious but since it's coming from a noob, i think it pretty heavily leans town.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 13:24 GMT
#500
i misread actually. I thought he was saying i had a hell of a scumread on rob because i asked him a question. actually he said hell of a townread.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 13:26 GMT
#501
i thought more about mattchew's comment on sidespring.
the post itself wasn't nervous, but I think it might show nervousness that he chose to talk about setup over everything else.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 16:52 GMT
#537
On February 13 2014 07:36 thrawn2112 wrote:

Vivax420 could be scum, he should know better than to make the meta case that he did.


You all call meta cases bad but you say yourself that everybody knows you lurk as scum, and you have been instakilled in that game cause the meta rule was accurate. Now that you've stepped up your play it's obvious that I won't keep pursuing you, but I stick to the opinion that you can't simply call meta shit, cause that's how I get caught when I'm mafia.

Besides, bad != Mafia.

I'm interested in opinions on sidesprang, as he has shown an early activity burst and cooled off very quickly. His questions don't really seem interested in the game, and I get what matt means with mafia-nervous post, it's as if he was shaking off any incentive to discussion.

THe point Mocsta made on QP is also good. Waiting for him to kinda justify his lack of inquisiveness.

~V
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 16:59 GMT
#539
Having said that about thrawn, I'm still not on the town side of things with him. But for now, I prefer to hear stuff from people who don't post much, the two above and you also can take DNP and grack into the category.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 17:00 GMT
#540
It's perfectly valid if you say you're suspicious of a person without voting for that person. This is instant majority we probably shouldn't be throwing around our vote carelessly.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 17:03 GMT
#542
Grack do you always keep it to a minimum with your posts?
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 17:37 GMT
#554
i want to know why mattchew thinks jjd is town
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 17:41 GMT
#555
ShiaoPi also doesn't look too good. I don't like how he starts with a weird vote on me, and then his priorities shift to passively opposing IAR. Passively cause his questions to him have an aggressive tone, but nowhere do I see the intention to discern his alignment, he's simply attacking his reads without giving his own conclusions, or showing the reason to do so.

Example:
On February 13 2014 08:03 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:59 IAmRobik wrote:
1) I understand you want an answer to this. I'm not gonna give it to you.


With regards to your next round of questioning, I am not going to talk about QP for d1 unless I need to defend him. I just have a read that he's town and that's all I'm going to repeat over and over again.



Absolutely and utterly convincing me of QP there man.....not
why not share your wisdom?


On February 13 2014 08:09 ShiaoPi wrote:
based on what the fuck is that now?


On February 13 2014 08:10 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 04:11 QuantumPope wrote:
Greetings from Seoul, Korea and welcome to the GSL. I am QuantumPope and we're here doing a piggyback broadcast in this TL thread.

Hi everybody. Just got into work and see this has started. My body is ready. NaDa thing can go wrong.

On February 13 2014 04:07 Mattchew wrote:
QuantumPope, are you a man?

You question my manhood?


this reads as Nestea cop to you? dafuq


Little theory, but not to be taken into consideration for the situation at hand, maybe later if the information is partially correct. ShiaoPi and QP both mafia, IAR gives QP townread, ShiaoPi sees townie wrong read on teammate, feels IAR should look scummy for it. Starts attacking him, but doesn't directly call him out as scummy.

Otherwise, ShiaoPi doesn't show much effort to find scum in his posts,
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 17:42 GMT
#556
On February 14 2014 02:37 VIVAX420 wrote:
i want to know why mattchew thinks jjd is town


This is kush, everything else since my last signature is me. ~V
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 17:57 GMT
#558
Well what I don't like about Mordanis is the fact that he doesn't seem the least bit suspicious about thrawn. When a guy is lurking and posting nonsense you would actually want him to post more and better stuff so you can get a read on him.

Hence I can't explain from a town pov why he doesn't want thrawn to be pressured, and thrawn himself already pointed out:

Mordanis could be scum, his suspicions of vivax/robik look like they stem from him having knowledge of my alignment. He's suspicious of people because of their suspicions of a townie which is classic fake-scumhunting.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 18:04 GMT
#559
On February 14 2014 02:21 sidesprang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 02:17 Mattchew wrote:
I don't think that grack and side are the same alignment


What makes it unlikely we are both town ?


I find this a strange question to ask, why do you sound like you take it for granted that Grack is town?
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 18:17 GMT
#562
On February 14 2014 03:11 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 02:57 VIVAX420 wrote:
Well what I don't like about Mordanis is the fact that he doesn't seem the least bit suspicious about thrawn. When a guy is lurking and posting nonsense you would actually want him to post more and better stuff so you can get a read on him.

Hence I can't explain from a town pov why he doesn't want thrawn to be pressured, and thrawn himself already pointed out:

Mordanis could be scum, his suspicions of vivax/robik look like they stem from him having knowledge of my alignment. He's suspicious of people because of their suspicions of a townie which is classic fake-scumhunting.

Well this is a terrible post. First of all how is it possible that you are suspicious of thrawn and then you agree with him because what he says is "Mordanis could be scum because i am town and he does not seem to be trying to find out if i am town or not". Noone but thrawn can agree with what he says, because if you are not thrawn and town you can't know thrawn's alignement. Second, there is absolutely nothing that was scummy in thrawns posting at that time. Your case was fucking bad, you can't possibly think someone is "lurking" or "playing to his scum meta" based on one hour of the game. I don't even care if it's Vivax or kush posting but that's so fucking ridiculous if you are going to push anything based on that you are mafia and we lynch you.

So, was your case on thrawn good or not?

~rayn


I already explained that I see meta as a valid method of finding out if he's scum, cause of the strong impression I got from that game where iamp managed to lynch a scummer D1 merely going off that. Besides, now my read on thrawn has shifted to town cause of the observation about Mordanis he made (which I just quoted), which is insight I would expect from a townie.

Rayn, can you please comment on the other guys I wrote about? Do you think those are good points? (ShiaoPi, roundabout)
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 18:26 GMT
#568
On February 14 2014 03:22 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 03:17 VIVAX420 wrote:
On February 14 2014 03:11 roundabound wrote:
On February 14 2014 02:57 VIVAX420 wrote:
Well what I don't like about Mordanis is the fact that he doesn't seem the least bit suspicious about thrawn. When a guy is lurking and posting nonsense you would actually want him to post more and better stuff so you can get a read on him.

Hence I can't explain from a town pov why he doesn't want thrawn to be pressured, and thrawn himself already pointed out:

Mordanis could be scum, his suspicions of vivax/robik look like they stem from him having knowledge of my alignment. He's suspicious of people because of their suspicions of a townie which is classic fake-scumhunting.

Well this is a terrible post. First of all how is it possible that you are suspicious of thrawn and then you agree with him because what he says is "Mordanis could be scum because i am town and he does not seem to be trying to find out if i am town or not". Noone but thrawn can agree with what he says, because if you are not thrawn and town you can't know thrawn's alignement. Second, there is absolutely nothing that was scummy in thrawns posting at that time. Your case was fucking bad, you can't possibly think someone is "lurking" or "playing to his scum meta" based on one hour of the game. I don't even care if it's Vivax or kush posting but that's so fucking ridiculous if you are going to push anything based on that you are mafia and we lynch you.

So, was your case on thrawn good or not?

~rayn


I already explained that I see meta as a valid method of finding out if he's scum, cause of the strong impression I got from that game where iamp managed to lynch a scummer D1 merely going off that. Besides, now my read on thrawn has shifted to town cause of the observation about Mordanis he made (which I just quoted), which is insight I would expect from a townie.

Rayn, can you please comment on the other guys I wrote about? Do you think those are good points? (ShiaoPi, roundabout)

well for starers i think rounabound is town.
seriously wtf are you guys doing?

~rayn


I meant sidesprang, little mistake.

Dude, you can stop nitpicking about the validity of that case now, cause it's irrelevant at this point. thrawn unlurked, he posted his opinions, mission accomplished. If he was scum I lured him out of his comfort zone too quickly to establish if he was lurking, but that's what comes from being overeager.

It would be very appreciated if you would come out of the tunnel vision and start commenting on other events. The shit case you wanted to shut down hasn't been relevant since the moment thrawn responded properly.

Besides, you're tending to being disruptive. Little observation. If you had read my posts with some genuine interest you would have known that that was a mistake.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 18:29 GMT
#569
On February 14 2014 03:25 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2014 01:52 VIVAX420 wrote:
THe point Mocsta made on QP is also good. Waiting for him to kinda justify his lack of inquisiveness.

~V

Another thing. Elaborate on this plz. What points Mocsta made that are good?

~rayn


On February 13 2014 11:57 roundabound wrote:
@QP
There is a knowledge triangle between yourself, Mattchew and IAR.

Substantiated by:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:37 QuantumPope wrote:
If there are two people who I trust to read me correctly in this thread it's Mattchew and IAmRobik as they have had the most interaction with me outside of this forum but being able to read correctly can also lean mafia. I have null reads on both of them at the moment.


Note their opinions of you:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 08:13 IAmRobik wrote:
I think QP is town. I have my reason for thinking that. I don't know if it's right or not, but I think it.
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 05:40 Mattchew wrote:
quantum probably town too


Did you expect both of these players to "town read" you with so little analysis?
Further,
Mattchew is my achilles heel.
What is the secret to reading him?

~moc
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 18:59 GMT
#577
Rayn, the points against mordanis aren't simply "he called my case shit". Go read some more.
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VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 19:17 GMT
#583
Rayn, get to the point. If u wanna call thrawn town, me scum or mordanis town, then do it properly instead of just opposing me in whichever way you can find.
Kush and Vivax
VIVAX420
Profile Joined April 2013
556 Posts
February 13 2014 21:37 GMT
#591
Still waiting for opinions on Shiao and sidesprang.

~V
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