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 I'm heading to bed now, UK Time (03:00), see you all in a bit! | ||
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On February 17 2014 06:03 Lord Tolkien wrote: 1) Given the last of mod post, I'm going to assume that there isn't an innocent child. That also means we might not have other roles either. So going off of this, The possible roles left are: Vanilla / Cop / Doctor / Roleblocker / Vigilante / Veteran Mafia Goon / Mafia Roleblocker / Mafia Godfather. I'd originally assumed when signing up it would be 3 Mafia (one of each role), with the remaining players split between the town roles randomly. Re-reading through the rules however, it reads to me as if there could be between 1 - 4 Mafia? | ||
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On February 17 2014 06:19 IAmRobik wrote: Let's not talk about roles There are maximum 3 maf Is that from experience, or a (logical) guess? | ||
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On February 17 2014 06:03 Lord Tolkien wrote: I disagree with this point. There's no reason to lynch lurkers Day 1 where there's limited information for them to participate anyways. The later the game goes, the more valid an option it becomes. But right now this post was pretty incredibly unhelpful, even if I do appreciate the town read. I'd agree with this point for the most part. However, lynching a lurker would become the best option (in my eyes) if the next 27hrs of discussion don't lead to a solid read on a scum. I'd imagine it's easier to read someone's behaviours later on if they've already been posting. | ||
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Lord Tolkien: As in my last post, I agree (for the most part) with the lynching/no-lynching of lurkers. "2) On Amiko, he's (she's?) been helpful thus far at least in providing a spreadsheet copy for us to use." I don't see how that has any relevance to the actual game, it stands out to me as being an odd comment to use when discussing someone's posting. Amiko: 1. Suggesting to lynch lurkers, and then naming the lurkers 02:45 after the thread started was weird. You said "I want to hold my vote for a little longer since the game just started", but with 48-hour days if you're wanting to lynch lurkers you should be posting your list well into the second day. It add's absolutely nothing that early into Day 1.. my post was just saying I'm going to bed, that shouldn't be enough to get me off a lurker list. 2. Calling yourself town in your first post, again, seems off to me. If you're acting as town, people should form their own town opinion of you, which will be 100x stronger than a read formed by you claiming to be town in a first post. 3. I was going to add here about OneKing's criticism of the length of the post.. it's valid criticism, although in this case I feel like it's given some interesting talking points so i'll forgive it. Cavalinho: His (I presume?) explanation of only jumping on Amiko after the post by yourself was satisfactory to me, otherwise i'd be much more interested in the reasoning behind that.. Mafia Reads? Amiko / IAmRobik. Just a gut feeling on Robik. Town Reads? Lord Tolkein, and potentially OnceKing. No other strong reads yet. Also, you have to give me time to post.. The above post by me was posted before seeing your question (I went to make a coffee, and posted when I got back). I'm not a masssively quick poster, I like to go back and check, and recheck previous posts. | ||
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On February 17 2014 10:07 Lord Tolkien wrote: Thank you for the reads. Looking back at that point of comment, it is indeed odd and I thank you for pointing it out. I blame lack of sleep. You don't have a strong read on Cavalinho I assume? Not particularly, although I'm unsure on the argument for not checking the active players. If some of the active players are in fact mafia, they could lead the game to a mafia win easier than I think the lurkers could. However, as with the lynching discussion, checking lurkers could be better due to getting better reads from those who are posting frequently. Mods, The Filters next to peoples names in the OP need updating to be looking at this thread, not the shadowed mafia one. | ||
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On February 17 2014 10:15 OnceKing wrote: Alright, sorry for jumping down your throat lol Why is Lord Tolkien town to you if all you have to say about him is that you agree that a policy lynch on lurkers is stupid (it is) and that he's made an irrelevant post? Just a general feeling. None of my Town/Mafia reads are strong enough at this moment. LordT and yourself are just the two putting yourself in that category the most so far to me. | ||
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My post more more just curiosity as to whether he's here lurking, or just completely afk. | ||
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On February 18 2014 00:26 IAmRobik wrote: Pages 4 and 5: This post is super scummy: I would love to hear your reason for this. | ||
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As for your post at the top of this page regarding setup (Id quote but mobile editting is hard), thats the exact sort of answer I was looking for. Im playing in a newbie game because I dont know how a completely vanilla game of forum mafia runs, why would you expect me to know that? | ||
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On February 18 2014 03:50 OnceKing wrote: I would like to hear from everybody on the two big topics of today: Cavalinho and Lord Tolkien/Me. Valenius, you've been up and about! But you've almost completely avoided the topic of the argument between Lord Tolkien and me, what's up? And what do you make of these two situations? My last few posts have been trying to figure what exactly Robik's issues are with my posting so far. I've been honest in all of my posts, and although I can understand his views on the game setup questions, I was only seeking clarification (on whether I was mis-interpreting the rules). Whilst I feel the number of mafia does have a clear impact on the game as it progresses, I'm dropping that discussion for today. My main issue with his post at the top of page 10 is his comment on my posts only being random and uninteresting. I posted my reads at your request, and tried to contribute on the lynching lurkers issue. I've got a reasonable town feel for Cavalinho. As mentioned earlier, his defense of jumping onto Amiko was not perfect, but adequate enough to stop me hunting him for that. His general play to me has seemed townie, and would be generally going along with what i'd choose. His comment Checking the more outspoken players such as you, me, Amiko, and OnceKing is a poor strategy. We can gather reads on each other by watching as we push our agendas throughout the game. is one that I'm agreeing with at the moment. There's enough posts by the 'main' bunch so far to provide reads as the game progresses.I can't get a solid read on LT. As I put in my original reads, I thought you and LT were the most likely to be town at that point, but those were best guesses at the time. I still believe you're a reasonably safe town choice, and looking back the reckless voting on Amiko seems a bit scummy. (I missed this post the first time round) I'm not entirely convinced that Amiko is red, but I don't think at this point it matters. ##vote Amiko Depending on the flip: 1) Die scum die 2) Sorry mang, but take one for the town I could understand this post coming sometime around now, if there was a lack of pressure on anyone else, but not really still in D1. Overall, I'd be choosing between IAmRobik / LT / Amiko. The issue with this is, I can't see LT having pushed so hard (see above) on Amiko that early in the game if they were bros. ##vote IAmRobik | ||
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LT/Amiko would be my other choices, and as I stated I cant get a solid read on LT, so i'm avoiding the LT/Amiko vote for the moment. It's mostly your pushing on me after I was first to bring you up, and I'm not particularly fond of the way you called my posts useless, when your two first posts were incredibly short and added no value. I could understand that comment (more so, I'd still disagree about the uselessness) if it were coming who'd been contributing throughout the first few pages, but not from you at that stage. | ||
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On February 18 2014 05:01 IAmRobik wrote: Why? They were useless. Any discussion of game mechanics is filler. It gives the illusion of providing content without actually doing it. People think "wow, this guy is talking about the game and trying to figure out what the setup is so that he can figure out the game" when in fact, it's just speculating on something that no one really needs to worry about at this point in order to look like you are contributing, instead of providing reads. You FINALLY provided some reads after 10 posts. Additionally, I'm fairly certain that Cavalinho was the first to ping me as suspicious Additionally, while my first post may not have contributed anything of value, my second posts and subsequent posts did. 6 or 7 posts if you're counting my comment on lynching policy, but I get your point. If you want to read them that way, okay, but as I've said before they were genuine questions, not meant for massive discussion points. | ||
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Looking through your filter, I apologise. I pretty much ignored most of the first hour or two of random votes that lead nowhere. The 'first two' posts that i've been referring to are the On February 17 2014 05:25 IAmRobik wrote: OnceKing, That's one hell of an argument for a newbie game. what's your experience? and On February 17 2014 06:19 IAmRobik wrote: Let's not talk about roles There are maximum 3 maf Not quite sure how I overlooked that. | ||
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