But I shall resist. It HAS inspired me to go filter him though, for science.
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On January 23 2014 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Jonny might very well be scum. When I initially noticed Balla and voted for him Jonny had just unvoted and voted for Kush, citing "we can't get Jonny lynched anyway, so lynch Kush I think they both scum" So why is it that once people start LOOKING AT balla, suddenly Jonny is more interested in lynching Kush? It certainly seems like he still "thinks Balla is scum", so why not vote? Maybe his next vote will be on Balla.... Nope...it's on Zarepath. So him saying he's thought Balla was scum like all D1 is pretty meaningless, because when Balla was being discussed, there was never any "Hey yeah! I like that guy for scum too!" or a vote or anything. In fact, when the votes started dropping, Jonny was on the other guy. Partly | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: bumatlarge | ||
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If you believe both Named VT claims, then if scum have a Godfather they know they can fake-claim anything they want without fear of being counterclaimed. With two named VTs, then there's either ONE of Doc/Cop and no GF or ZERO of Doc/Cop and a GF. If you're a power role you need to counterclaim. | ||
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On January 16 2014 21:06 DarthPunk wrote: Setup This game uses a semi-open setup. The exact setup will be randomly determined from the following: A: 8x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 1x Doc, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather B: 8x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 1x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker C: 8x VT, 1x Doc, 1x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker D: 8x VT, 2x Named VT, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather E: 7x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 1x Doc, 1x Named VT, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather F: 7x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 2x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker G: 7x VT, 1x Doc, 2x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker H: 7x VT, 3x Named VT, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather whoops! ##Unvote ##Vote: bumatlarge | ||
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On January 24 2014 16:31 kushm4sta wrote: ve wtf are you even talking about. no counterclaims = all the claims are true No, no counterclaims doesn't mean that at all. Look at the setups, if there are no counterclaims then scum can still have a Godfather. | ||
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##Vote: JonnyLaw | ||
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On January 25 2014 02:16 suki wrote: He doesn't need to be voting Artanis but I'd like to hear his justification for voting JonnyLaw all the same. I've given ample justification for voting for JL in my filter. What I'd like to know is why you INSTANTANEOUSLY reverse your read of bum based on the claim when you had JUST written a case about how he's scum. | ||
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On January 25 2014 03:07 VisceraEyes wrote: I've given ample justification for voting for JL in my filter. What I'd like to know is why you INSTANTANEOUSLY reverse your read of bum based on the claim when you had JUST written a case about how he's scum. This is important. Suki doesn't disbelieve the claim for an instant, if she were town she should be worried that Bum could be fake-claiming right? Because she's got this huge case on Bum, why wouldn't she even entertain the notion that he's scum fake-claiming? She even calls her case trash directly after the claim. It reeks of damage control to me. Like she had no idea he would claim and didn't know how to react. | ||
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On January 25 2014 03:16 kushm4sta wrote: @ve i didn't disbelieve the claim. I think possibly she didn't realize like me that it was possible to fake claim and not get caught later. also i feel like no one properly explains that to me... wtf guys I've been trying all effing game Kush, you just haven't been listening because you're all "I'm right lolololol" | ||
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Please do remember that you're appealing to people that share an alignment with you presumably. | ||
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On January 25 2014 04:07 BarristanTheBold wrote: I have 2 small things that keep me from giving VE a solid town read. 1) Despite having an 8 page filter, I don't really remember much of what he's done. Fight with bum a lot, but not really a whole lot else. 2) He hasn't really been interacting with me very much. Like he's not given a single opinion about me, which isn't scummy in itself, but I'm a smurf. He's not been digging trying to get a read on me, just letting me lurk around and not do a whole lot. Despite that, I still have a marginal town read on VE. is arguments with bum felt like the frustrated town VE. I 'unno, I think it's *possible* VE could be scum, but I don't think we should lynch him today. I have no reason to think you're scum. So I haven't mentioned you. Consider it a town read. I'm not letting you lurk, nor do I think what you've been doing is lurking. You're posting when it's relevant and saying things I find townie. Not remembering what I've done isn't a scumtell. Just so we're clear. | ||
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But, looking at your reasoning, that makes me believe bum's claim more myself. Like you said - he would have had no reason to suspect one of the three Named VT claims as early as he did unless he KNEW one was lying. The only way he'd know that is if there IS NO Godfather if he's scum. And if there's no Godfather, then there's a counterclaim coming. | ||
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On January 25 2014 04:39 kushm4sta wrote: ve how believable do you find thrawn's claim? im not up on the claims and setups and whatnot like you are. If he's not Named VT then we've got issues. Let me look. | ||
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