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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 23 2014 18:59 GMT
#1404
Ehhhhh....JL's reaction to the wagon on him makes me want to lynch bum more. :/

But I shall resist. It HAS inspired me to go filter him though, for science.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 23 2014 19:22 GMT
#1407
On January 23 2014 02:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jonny might very well be scum.

When I initially noticed Balla and voted for him Jonny had just unvoted and voted for Kush, citing "we can't get Jonny lynched anyway, so lynch Kush I think they both scum"

Show nested quote +
On January 21 2014 07:52 JonnyLaw wrote:
##unvote
##vote kushmasta


I think kush is scum. I think balla is scum. I think kush put a bus vote on balla and got an easy out when I said something. No one else will vote balla. Lynch kush.


So why is it that once people start LOOKING AT balla, suddenly Jonny is more interested in lynching Kush?
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 03:01 JonnyLaw wrote:
Balla I still think you're scum.

You post essentially nothing this game. Then you pop back into the thread and pick a convenient lurker to lynch. You're not making an effort to solve this game.

How is sheeping rayn by saying he's here to move the game forward any type of acceptable play? In the last game you kept commenting oh how you play too nicely and trying to FIND SCUM while I randomly harassed people into talking.

you ask questions, but pose them doubtfully like you're not sure and don't care if they're answered. Your play this game is completely scummy. in 40 hours all you've managed to conclude is that rayn (nine pages of filter) is town and you can sheep him safely while crossfire (one page of filter) looks bad so you can post something without fear of him coming back at you with a defense.


It certainly seems like he still "thinks Balla is scum", so why not vote? Maybe his next vote will be on Balla....

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 03:56 JonnyLaw wrote:
##unvote
[b]##vote zarepath[b]

Yeah, your last post sealed it for me. Your explanation for bum being scummy is that he took his vote off VE when no one would follow his lead. You took your vote off VE when you thought it was an easy thing to do. They're not obviously different at all.


On January 22 2014 01:22 zarepath wrote:
I could join a bum scum wagon for his rationale of ending his VE assault, notably because of this:

On January 21 2014 11:46 bumatlarge wrote:
VisceraEyes. Read below. If you do not answer sufficiently, I cannot, as a town-aligned player, ever take my vote off you.


Followed by this:

On January 21 2014 14:18 bumatlarge wrote:
##unvote

You win. I'm not going to pursue this charade if no one else finds it worth while.


If he did not ACTUALLY think he would never take his vote off without VE satisfactorily answering his questions (which is the case, as evidenced by him taking his vote off of him), what was the purpose of stating it in such a dramatic way? I'm thinking for appearance, which is actually backed up by the second quote, where he shares his rationale for dropping the vote, which is purely because of what everyone else thinks.

The ideal townie would pursue his read no matter what, but a non-ideal townie isn't necessarily scum. What shouts scummy to me is the transparent motivation of focusing on how everyone else perceives his arguments, and not on his arguments themselves.


He tried to back up his case for two days and it gained no traction. You abandoned yours after two fucking minutes when VE said lynch me if I'm scum. You literally have one post saying I made a case and that's it. After that it's like total 180 and you jump on the same person VE has his vote on.



Nope...it's on Zarepath. So him saying he's thought Balla was scum like all D1 is pretty meaningless, because when Balla was being discussed, there was never any "Hey yeah! I like that guy for scum too!" or a vote or anything. In fact, when the votes started dropping, Jonny was on the other guy.

Partly
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 01:30 GMT
#1432
I would.

##Unvote
##Vote: bumatlarge
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 06:55 GMT
#1514
VT. Bum could be lying. I want to know who he checked and how he knows they are town before I believe or disbelieve.

If you believe both Named VT claims, then if scum have a Godfather they know they can fake-claim anything they want without fear of being counterclaimed. With two named VTs, then there's either ONE of Doc/Cop and no GF or ZERO of Doc/Cop and a GF.

If you're a power role you need to counterclaim.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 07:00 GMT
#1515
If you would have us believe your claim, then why do you say "Alas, setup C was also possible" when setup C contains zero Parity Cops?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 07:01 GMT
#1516
On January 16 2014 21:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Setup

This game uses a semi-open setup. The exact setup will be randomly determined from the following:

A: 8x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 1x Doc, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather

B: 8x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 1x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker

C: 8x VT, 1x Doc, 1x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker

D: 8x VT, 2x Named VT, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather

E: 7x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 1x Doc, 1x Named VT, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather

F: 7x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 2x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker

G: 7x VT, 1x Doc, 2x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker

H: 7x VT, 3x Named VT, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather


whoops!

##Unvote
##Vote: bumatlarge
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 07:37 GMT
#1523
On January 24 2014 16:31 kushm4sta wrote:
ve wtf are you even talking about. no counterclaims = all the claims are true

No, no counterclaims doesn't mean that at all. Look at the setups, if there are no counterclaims then scum can still have a Godfather.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 07:40 GMT
#1525
Given the nature of the Boxer claims, I'm inclined to believe both of them.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 07:46 GMT
#1528
##Unvote
##Vote: JonnyLaw
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 18:07 GMT
#1581
On January 25 2014 02:16 suki wrote:
He doesn't need to be voting Artanis but I'd like to hear his justification for voting JonnyLaw all the same.

I've given ample justification for voting for JL in my filter.

What I'd like to know is why you INSTANTANEOUSLY reverse your read of bum based on the claim when you had JUST written a case about how he's scum.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 18:14 GMT
#1584
On January 25 2014 03:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 02:16 suki wrote:
He doesn't need to be voting Artanis but I'd like to hear his justification for voting JonnyLaw all the same.

I've given ample justification for voting for JL in my filter.

What I'd like to know is why you INSTANTANEOUSLY reverse your read of bum based on the claim when you had JUST written a case about how he's scum.

This is important. Suki doesn't disbelieve the claim for an instant, if she were town she should be worried that Bum could be fake-claiming right? Because she's got this huge case on Bum, why wouldn't she even entertain the notion that he's scum fake-claiming? She even calls her case trash directly after the claim.

It reeks of damage control to me. Like she had no idea he would claim and didn't know how to react.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 18:17 GMT
#1587
On January 25 2014 03:16 kushm4sta wrote:
@ve i didn't disbelieve the claim. I think possibly she didn't realize like me that it was possible to fake claim and not get caught later.

also i feel like no one properly explains that to me... wtf guys

I've been trying all effing game Kush, you just haven't been listening because you're all "I'm right lolololol"
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 18:28 GMT
#1594
Lynch you if you're wrong and forfeit the game to scum? Because you're wrong? Really?

Please do remember that you're appealing to people that share an alignment with you presumably.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 18:29 GMT
#1596
Artanis/suki?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 19:09 GMT
#1645
On January 25 2014 04:07 BarristanTheBold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 03:46 thrawn2112 wrote:
is anyone townreading VE? for a good reason?

if nobody can answer i think that's a good reason to vote him

I have 2 small things that keep me from giving VE a solid town read.

1) Despite having an 8 page filter, I don't really remember much of what he's done. Fight with bum a lot, but not really a whole lot else.

2) He hasn't really been interacting with me very much. Like he's not given a single opinion about me, which isn't scummy in itself, but I'm a smurf. He's not been digging trying to get a read on me, just letting me lurk around and not do a whole lot.

Despite that, I still have a marginal town read on VE. is arguments with bum felt like the frustrated town VE.

I 'unno, I think it's *possible* VE could be scum, but I don't think we should lynch him today.

I have no reason to think you're scum. So I haven't mentioned you. Consider it a town read. I'm not letting you lurk, nor do I think what you've been doing is lurking. You're posting when it's relevant and saying things I find townie.

Not remembering what I've done isn't a scumtell. Just so we're clear.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 19:19 GMT
#1648
Suki why did you instantly believe Bum's claim?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 19:31 GMT
#1653
Suki scum could have a Godfather and KNOW that no one is going to counterclaim.

But, looking at your reasoning, that makes me believe bum's claim more myself. Like you said - he would have had no reason to suspect one of the three Named VT claims as early as he did unless he KNEW one was lying. The only way he'd know that is if there IS NO Godfather if he's scum. And if there's no Godfather, then there's a counterclaim coming.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 19:50 GMT
#1657
On January 25 2014 04:39 kushm4sta wrote:
ve how believable do you find thrawn's claim? im not up on the claims and setups and whatnot like you are.

If he's not Named VT then we've got issues. Let me look.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 19:54 GMT
#1660
Wait he's not a named VT claim is he? Where does he do this? I'm so behind
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
January 24 2014 19:59 GMT
#1663
But did he ever actually claim it? I see he has never denied it...
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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