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On January 20 2014 23:19 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2014 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What makes you think mafia will not make it "the most difficult scenario" for us? because if they claim earlier in the game they won't know how to make it the most difficult scenario yet BTW rayn this is the last time you bait me into talking about this. Save it for post game. IF you put me at l1 i might talk about it more if you want. anyways ##unvote
##vote balla
You are the one who is talking about it all the time. You are totally wrong and i just proved you wrong. You logic makes absolutely no sense and now you are telling me to drop the issue when you can't reasonably explain yourself.
Again, why am i town? Also explain your town read on VE and thrawn in more detain. You agree with bum "trying to figure out VE's alignment" when he in fact is doing nothing to figure out VE's alignment, but you really don't agree with him because it seems like you have a townread on VE so you have already figured out his alignment it seems like. So where do these reads come from?
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You have literally disagreed with every single thing VE has said in this game, how is it possible for you to have a town read on him?
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What what is the difference in VE's town!tone and scum!tone?
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but you jsut said your read on VE was based on tone.
What is your read on VE based on?
Why is he too dumb to be scum. Give some concrete reasoning and not fucking change the reasoning every second.
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But you have a town read on VE and i want to know what is it based on.
I also want to know where your read on me is based on
I also want to know where your read on thrawn is based on. Elaborate on your read, how is thrawn's posting more "formal" as mafia and why do you think it's not formal in this game?
I also want to know where your read on bum is based on. You say it's based on him questioning VE's play but he really isn't questioning anything, he just gives "might be or might not be mafia" comments.
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What you do as mafia is you give some half-arsed townreads because giving them is easier than giving scumreads, which is especially to you really hard to do. You are not getting away with unexplained town reads here because if you are town you have some reasoning for them, how stupid it might be, you must have a reason to call someone town.
If you are town you can explain those reads as you have given them, if you are scum you probably can't.
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I dunno what game you are reading then..
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##Vote: kushm4sta
stop it already bum, i have no idea what you are trying to do or why you get angry for no reason at all. If i have one invalid point in my case that does not make other points invalid as you try to tell here.
I have no read on VE. If i had to give something i'd say scum but i dunno yet.
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On January 21 2014 02:02 JonnyLaw wrote:
rayn this is exactly how kush plays though.
What's telling you he's scum?
Have you read anything i have posted in thread?
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Who the fuck cares about some random filter if you don't tell us what to look for?
What does that filter say, how is it similar/different from this game. Why the hell are you even posting it?
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Where have i said i think he is scum for making a bad plan?
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Yes and if he is town he can explain those reads. Apparently he has no explanations here.
Again, where have i said he is mafia for making a bad plan. I said the opposite to suki if you have read my posts, that his bad plan does not make him mafia.
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On January 21 2014 02:10 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:+ Show Spoiler +1: 8x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 1x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker
1: 7x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 1x Doc, 1x Named VT, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather
1: 8x VT, 1x Doc, 1x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker
2: 8x VT, 2x Named VT, 1x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker, 1x Godfather
2: 7x VT, 1x Parity Cop, 2x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker
2: 7x VT, 1x Doc, 2x Named VT, 2x Goon, 1x Mafia Role Blocker kushmasta, we are in LYLO. We have 2x Named VT claims and a parity cop claim and a doctor claim. Who is scum of the claims?
And this is saying he is mafia how?
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I wanted him to stop discussing the plan because it's fucking stupid and bad. I would have called him scum if he didn't drop it.
I am calling him mafia because he has a town read on half of the players in this game for no reasoning. I believe he has no reasoning for those reads because he refuses to explain them.
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bumatlarge:
In no way is it "entirely false". Suki points out multiple lapses in VE's thought process. You can change your mind, but throwing phrases out like, "that's dumb" or "I'm indifferent" are strong blanket statements to lay down. Clearly VE is either rapidly changing his mind throughout his posts, giving us no indication of where it's going, or he is not thinking his posts through, which he shouldn't be doing as town. I say point out that VE is capable of doing this as town.
There is nothing wrong in those quotes suki brought up.
VE thinks kush's plan is bad and VE is not sure if claiming/not claiming Boxers is best play. Where is the inconsistancy? He does not change his mind anywhere.
Interpretation is key. I clearly mean "I think VE is scum, and the only thing making me reconsider is if he actually posts like this as town." I have played quite a few games with VE, but they were a while ago. All in all, I think Rayn misconstrued what I said here, an possibly purposefully. Townies do do this with analysis, because they want to be right, especially if an ego is present, and interpretation is where alot of analyses hit speed bumps. I do think Rayn is scum here though.
You said "i think VE is scum but i need to go back and look if he does this as town". That's exactly what you said. Did you go back and look at if he does that as town or not? Does he do that as town or not?
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He said he wanted to go back and check if VE does that as town. I want to know his conclusions as he pretty much promised to do so.
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bumatlarge, i would also like to know who are all of these people i have asked what their read on VE is. You said i have asked "ust about everyone here what there read of him is".
Why don't you back that up with quotes of me asking those "everyone" what their read on VE is?
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On January 21 2014 02:37 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He said he wanted to go back and check if VE does that as town. I want to know his conclusions as he pretty much promised to do so. If you thought I was going to go back into another game I played with him and provide examples of this, I am sorry. It was a mental meta in the back of my head from ages past. I actually can't remember anything concrete, just a foggy notion that he can do this as town.
So idk, how is anyone supposed to trust your read when you don't even know yourself if the read is legit?
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I have absolutely no idea why bumatlarge is voting for VE because he did just say "he did some stuff i find out to be scummy but then again i remember him doing same kinda stuff as town too".
I have no idea what his read on VE is because it's inconsistent.
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