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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:27 GMT
#964
On January 22 2014 07:24 JonnyLaw wrote:
Doesn't this seem too easy to you guys?


It seems like a last minute lynch orchestrated by myself and Rayn. I know I'm town and I'm pretty sure Rayn is town. I can see scum having no power to change the lynch. Pretty much what happened during Titanic II when there was a last minute switch to purpleflator who was scum.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:28 GMT
#966
On January 22 2014 07:24 Crossfire99 wrote:
artanis, the first quote you had of mine was me explaining my read now in full which includes the accidental non vt claim which was my first thought about him and his "wildness." The second quote was what I though about him during the post where I came to no conclusion on him. The accidental non vt is in both, so I'm confused about what you're confused about lol.

I'm still confused but I'll let it be as the only read that matters is the one you have now.
Thrawn why did you unvote?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:34 GMT
#971
Where is everyone? Barristan, why aren't you engaging in conversation? It's probably between Kush and Bum today. Who do you think is scummier and why?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:38 GMT
#978
On January 22 2014 07:37 kushm4sta wrote:
so what happened is i thought i was a named VT and only named vts got names.

Why don't you give a shit that you're about to get lynched? If you're town I'm really going to be pissed.
On January 22 2014 07:37 BarristanTheBold wrote:
Artanis: I've said multiple times that I'm at work. While I'm not busy I get to check the thread once every 10 minutes, but that's about it.

You haven't voted anyone and it's 20 minutes to the lynch. It'd be nice to get something for you to be accountable for.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:43 GMT
#987
On January 22 2014 07:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
sadly it makes the most sense. i still don't know who to lynch.

We don't know what kind of PM's scum get. I can easily imagine they get a similar kind of PM. It's not even relevant for why Kush is scum. He followed thread sentiment other than Zare which he magically had a mysterious townread on when the rest of town thought he was scum. It doesn't add up.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:45 GMT
#991
On January 22 2014 07:44 kushm4sta wrote:
i gave reaons for townreading zare. i quoted stuff that i thoguht proved rayns case wrong.

i tried to figure out what contradiction everyone was talking aobut which i dont really konw what happened about but i recall balla saying nvm

Who do you actually think is scum right now?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:49 GMT
#1005
On January 22 2014 07:48 thrawn2112 wrote:
artanis. unvote kush and vote balla

Why? I haven't gone through his filter yet but Kush is scummy as fuck. You still didn't explain why you unvoted him.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:51 GMT
#1008
On January 22 2014 07:50 thrawn2112 wrote:
you still havent explained why you havent unvoted him

Except I've been perfectly clear.
On January 22 2014 07:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
sadly it makes the most sense. i still don't know who to lynch.

We don't know what kind of PM's scum get. I can easily imagine they get a similar kind of PM. It's not even relevant for why Kush is scum. He followed thread sentiment other than Zare which he magically had a mysterious townread on when the rest of town thought he was scum. It doesn't add up.

Why is Kush not scum to you?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:55 GMT
#1016
I'm okay with a Balla lynch too, but still prefer a Kush lynch. Just scrolled through his filter and he hasn't done anything. I remember him doing great in his latest newbie game and he hasn't really done anything here. Inactivity can have multiple reasons though. I much prefer Kush because he's actually been here a lot and still has a shit filter.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 22:58 GMT
#1027
Whatever.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 23:07 GMT
#1039
Ooh, well, that works.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 21 2014 23:10 GMT
#1047
Well that confirms Rayn as town. Crossfire and Thrawn pretty likely too.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 22 2014 19:22 GMT
#1209
On January 23 2014 04:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can explain the town read on kush. It's the way he said i claimed named VT at the start of the game and how he explained it later on. I really believe what he says about it.

Here:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:37 kushm4sta wrote:
so what happened is i thought i was a named VT and only named vts got names.

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:38 kushm4sta wrote:
I thought omg rayn is claiming named vt like i am

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:38 kushm4sta wrote:
then rayn said
"everyone gets named"
i looked back and noticed i was green

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:40 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:38 kushm4sta wrote:
I thought omg rayn is claiming named vt like i am

so are you claiming named VT?
or what the fuck are you saying?

I THOUGHT i was named vt just because i had a name.
I didn't realize normal vts got names.

This makes me think he is town, because it makes sense based on what he said and how he acted at the start of the game.

This is a fair point, but it presumes that scum isn't aware of what kind of PM's town get. I presume they get fakeclaims as well so they could see the similarities between the PM's. Nevertheless you're right in that this is something that is hard to imagine scum Kush faking. Mm.

JL case looks convincing. Don't have much to add to it. Bum town read is still strong. The whole Balla coach thing just seems like something that scum wouldn't come up with. It could make sense as an explanation but which scum would use that as a plan? It seems suicidal.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 22 2014 19:26 GMT
#1214
On January 23 2014 04:05 VisceraEyes wrote:
Artanis is a good place to start.

Do go on.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 22 2014 19:31 GMT
#1219
On January 23 2014 04:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I honestly think bum is town...

Welcome to the cool kids club.
You said you had a townread on Alaka that you couldn't explain and that he deserved to get lynched. Personally I'd rather just win. Why did you have a townread on him?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 22 2014 23:10 GMT
#1311
gg.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 22 2014 23:24 GMT
#1320
Barristan when are you going to tell me why I'm scum?
##Vote JohnnyLaw
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 22 2014 23:27 GMT
#1324
On January 23 2014 08:26 kushm4sta wrote:
##vote artanis

Can you motivate that for me?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 22 2014 23:34 GMT
#1326
On January 23 2014 08:32 BarristanTheBold wrote:
@VE: I have mentioned bum. In fact, I said that i had him slightly town'ish. I changed my mind, especially if Artanis is scum.

@Artanis:

Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 02:29 BarristanTheBold wrote:
My *ONLY* small concern about Artanis is that as scum he always just picks on weak targets. He never picks a fight with active, good players (ala rayn). But on the flipside, he also tends to lurk and not do much as scum.

I think I would be okay with Artanis lynch.


Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 06:06 BarristanTheBold wrote:
rayn: you seem to know Artanis pretty well. Talk about him with me for a minute?

A couple of things:

1) His attack on you. He was kind of going balls to the wall there for a bit, then all of a sudden:

On January 22 2014 04:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
##Unvote
Time to 180 on my read on Rayn.
On January 22 2014 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 22 2014 02:29 suki wrote:
This game is stupid because there's been so much tunneling, despite there being so much activity. It's like everyone decided 'hey lets just be anti-town and focus on one person and not comment on anything else'. Zarepath (on VE), Balla (on Crossfire), Bumatlarge (VE and maybe rayn), Artanis (rayn), Barristan (Zarepath), Thrawn (kush). Crossfire and WileE are ridiculously quiet as well. That's over half the players in the game.

Yes, exactly this. Me, you and maybe VE are the only one's who actually comment on more than just one or two things (i don't countt kush bvecause he doesn't really explain anything - but he is still probably town - LOOK THRAWN, I HAVE A CONCLUSION!).

Artanis - Balla both weird. Another interesting thing, Balla calls out Crossfire for making a case on me,why not call out Artanis out for voting for me with basically no reasoning?

As i said i see Artanis' posts as townie, i can get the logic. I don't like how he has done pretty much nothing at all.

I still want to lynch zarepath. seriously everything he says contradicts what he did a post before.

When I first pointed out the reason for my suspicion he considered it completely idiotic. The way I've posted about him, no one would blame him for being suspicious of me or even calling for my head. Town sentiment has been against me as well, yet he gets where I'm coming from.


Sure, townies change their minds. But don't you find it a bit odd that he changed his mind as soon as you said you thought he was town?

Also, from the same quote:

On January 22 2014 04:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Zare looks scummy as shit. Rayn's already said it all but calling VE town then calling him scum for it later is an obvious tell.
##vote Zarepath
I'm also still interested in Kush. VE's looking better. The way he articulates his thoughts on Bum makes me feel better on him. Rather than mercilessly ragging on him it feels like he's trying to convey his thought process as clearly as possible.

Kush, especially if Zare flips scum is of interest to me. He's never really given much explanation to his votes. Even though that's not customary of Kush in general, he's shown resistance to explaining even when pressed which I don't feel is his townie persona. His suspicions just follow general thread sentiment other than Zarepath, in which he's contrarian without explaining much about it at all. Could lynch.


Now compare that with:

On January 22 2014 06:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 22 2014 06:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A asked DarthPunk if mafia has fakeclaims before the game started. You can do it aswell if you don't believe in fakeclaims and not just fucking sit on your asses discussing it here.

Now, who is mafia? Who do we lynch?

thrwan, VE, Artanis, are you here?

I am. I agree that Zare is probably not scum with all what happened. I want to lynch Kush. He's saying a lot of things without explaining anything. Follows thread sentiment except oddly on Zarepath, as if he knew he was town.
##unvote
##vote Kushm4sta


Those two viewpoints are kinda contradictory, no?


Are those not sufficient reasons?

You're play seems much more like the lazy scum Artanis than the town Artanis. And you kept trying to swing the vote off of balla and onto kush despite theoretically being "okay with lynching balla".

Not really. Rayn himself said they aren't exactly contradictory. Also, if we're talking meta, I bussed the shit out of my teammates the last two games. Why are you cherry picking what you think makes me scum? Inactivity is not alignment indicative.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 22 2014 23:37 GMT
#1329
On January 23 2014 08:36 BarristanTheBold wrote:
Yea, you bussed VE after he was caught with his pants down in Boardwalk. But for the most part in that game, you were completely a non-factor and got lynched because of it.

Boardwalk is a while ago. Try checking out my more recent scumgames and report back. Inactivity is not a scumtell. It's an IRLtell.
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