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On January 26 2014 09:05 VisceraEyes wrote: I would like you to qualify the bolded statement. WHAT about the way they entered the thread is scummy to you? well they most certainly did not enter fearlessly like a tiger. More like a fish. FISH? CHUPAZI! I think I've broken myself again. | ||
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On January 26 2014 09:47 Alakaslam wrote: Grackaroni Have you knowledge of the ways of KASLIZM? Many fish! What for to say when shall it be caught? I caught? Hijole! Chupazi... out damned spot out! I've been taking lessons. | ||
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On January 26 2014 10:33 kushm4sta wrote: @grack last time you did this mayor bullshitting you were scum. Why are you doing it again? Didn't you answer your own question? In all seriousness I have more confidence in my own day1 reads and would prefer it if I decided the lynch. | ||
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On January 26 2014 11:31 Alakaslam wrote: Now to get discussion rolling. Please discuss, what do we think Grackaroni would do as mayor? Granted it would help if grak himself were to shed light on the subject but for now let us speculate. Why should or should not Grack be mayor? My reasoning on VE is he is who I tend to trust. If I see him act as a scum I will move my vote. As for anyone who wonders why I am campaigning for Grack if I am not actually votin for him? Brb Thanks for the awesome segue Alakaslam! If you want a mayor who mainly considers lynching lurkers/useless people and you dislike the idea of veterans being lynched day1, you probably shouldn't vote for me. Because I will lynch my own read over whoever thread feels comfortable getting rid of. | ||
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Blazinghand will be replacing Alakaslam as my campaign manager. | ||
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On January 27 2014 06:11 bumatlarge wrote: Town might care what particular role it is, but mafia usually just try want to hit blue. Are you really arguing that a townies are more likely to ask for a specific role and mafia players are just curious if people have a role? | ||
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On January 27 2014 06:22 bumatlarge wrote: I'm saying on top of an already anti-town question, he phrases it the worse way. If town was to ask that, say if they felt that person trusted them (still bad), town wouldn't want to just know a power role, they'd ask about what they are going to do with the role. Thats why they are there. And you don't believe mafia would be curious about how that person would use his role? | ||
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On January 27 2014 06:29 bumatlarge wrote: Why would you when they would just shoot him... | ||
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On January 27 2014 06:29 bumatlarge wrote: Why would you when they would just shoot him... ^^ I accidentally typed inside another quote. Well vigilante comes to mind. But I guess there isn't as much scum interference with no framer in the game. | ||
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On January 27 2014 06:42 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Not seeing how it could be useful for a town to be able to personally coordinate who is a role or not is fucking retarded. It can be useful but it's a big reach to expect people to trust you that much at the start of the game. | ||
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On January 27 2014 06:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I didn't really have huge expectations that many people would instantly trust me and answer but it didn't hurt to try though, that is unless everyone reads me scum for trying. If it makes you feel better I think you are townier for doing it. Scum are typically more careful about what they post, and they don't outright ask for role claims unless they are Palmar. | ||
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On January 27 2014 16:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, and he's not spamming or active in the thread this game. I don't understand how you get those two points confused. Unless you're referring to PMs, in which case I stopped PMing BH after he claimed "X Player" claimed "Non-Vanilla Alignment" to me with blatant disregard to my alignment. No he's been quite active and he's been in PMs with me for a while. | ||
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##Vote: Raynepelikoneet I don't understand why so many people are blindly supportive of Bloodyc0bbler this game. | ||
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I'm basically working with this group of townies: Grackaroni Bloodyc0bbler Raynpelikoneet Blazinghand Mocsta Thrawn Alakaslam Leaving 4 scum in the remaining 6 people. | ||
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On January 29 2014 08:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Yeah I hardcore defended QP cause Im fucking right dude. get rekted. ##vote Rayn congratz.  | ||
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Oat in general just sat back cheer leading for VE/BC all day long while town killed each other. Bullshit reasons for believing BH is scum (and you can see that he doesn't really believe them in the way that town oats normally does just from his IRC with BH.) The only reason VE was actually suspicious of BH was because BH thought VE was scum without telling him why. Oats also does know better than to vote for you right now. | ||
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<Oatsmaster> so thrawn tells me <Oatsmaster> he knows you are town <Oatsmaster> and he has this information taht he doesnt want to give me <Oatsmaster> and I think you are really really really scummy <Blazinghand> ok <Blazinghand> thanks for the heads up <Oatsmaster> no problem <Oatsmaster> do you want to change my mind? <Oatsmaster> ah yes do you think rayn is town? <Blazinghand> yes but i'm in a very important game of hearthstone <Blazinghand> basically yeah <Oatsmaster> psh hearthstone is a turnbased game <Blazinghand> get on my level <Blazinghand> im just saying don't expect me to go thread diving <Blazinghand> but uh, so you think i'm scum <Blazinghand> what's the reason <Blazinghand> is it the slam thing <Oatsmaster> what ve said <Oatsmaster> basically <Oatsmaster> yes\ <Blazinghand> ok but slam isn't actually a vet <Blazinghand> he didn't claim vet to me <Oatsmaster> thats not the point <Blazinghand> wat <Blazinghand> how could that not be the point <Blazinghand> i didn't do anything to endanger town victory <Oatsmaster> so alak claimed something else to you? <Blazinghand> I got a chance to see how VE reacted <Blazinghand> alak didn't claim shit to me <Oatsmaster> or alak didnt claim to you at all and he claimed to everyone else <Oatsmaster> so you are telling me that you managed to hit on the 1 person that wouldnt counterclaim your shit? <Blazinghand> look i have no idea what alakaslam's role is <Blazinghand> why does it even matter, alakaslam isn't a vet <Blazinghand> or at least, i don't think he is <Oatsmaster> so why didnt alak counterclaim? <Oatsmaster> like when VE outed it <Blazinghand> why didn't he counterclaim what <Blazinghand> wait so your entire case on me <Blazinghand> is based on <Oatsmaster> why didnt Alak say "Hey I never Pmed BH my role" <Blazinghand> you mean why didn't alak say "I never told BH I was a vet" <Oatsmaster> yes <Blazinghand> didn't he say that? <Oatsmaster> no? <Oatsmaster> he was extremely vague about shit <Blazinghand> excellent <Blazinghand> exactly as he should be <Oatsmaster> so you just wanted VE's intial reaction then? <Blazinghand> well yeah <Blazinghand> look dude <Oatsmaster> because any normal person would go "lol BH I didnt pm you what the fuck" <Blazinghand> if slam was REALLY the vet <Blazinghand> if he was really a vet <Blazinghand> and really claimed vet to me <Blazinghand> what would his reaction be <Blazinghand> when he finds out i told VE? <Blazinghand> it wouldn't be "i'm gonna be ambiguous about this" <Oatsmaster> it might be <Blazinghand> rofl <Blazinghand> whatever man <Oatsmaster> alak plays in ways I cant even imagive <Blazinghand> slam still wanted to elect me <Oatsmaster> slam wants to elect everyone <Blazinghand> look dude slam didn't claim vet to me <Blazinghand> ask him if you want <Oatsmaster> yeah ok <Oatsmaster> so why did you choose slam <Blazinghand> because he claimed vet to me <Blazinghand> HU HUE HUE <Blazinghand> no seriously becasue of some other stuff he said to me <Oatsmaster> and why did you not actually scumhunt in thread, push people, run for mayor and generally be super useless the whole day 1 <Oatsmaster> like nothing you did lead to people thinking someone was scum <Blazinghand> I didn't have great reads <Blazinghand> all I had was townreads <Oatsmaster> which is not good <Blazinghand> so i decided to make a town circle <Blazinghand> ez <Blazinghand> in any case i got together some decent reads by the end <Oatsmaster> ok so reads? <Blazinghand> and if your critique of me is "blazinghand had a shitty D1, therefore he is scum" <Blazinghand> then your critique is bad <Oatsmaster> it is partly that <Blazinghand> dude <Oatsmaster> like the shittist day 1 <Oatsmaster> ever <Blazinghand> no <Blazinghand> not even CLOSE <Blazinghand> to the shittiest day 1 ever <Blazinghand> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=410972 <Blazinghand> amongst many others <Blazinghand> i always have shit day 1s <Oatsmaster> lol ok im not comparing it <Blazinghand> except for when they're amazing of course <Blazinghand> dude oats you can't say "i'm not comparing it" <Blazinghand> after you say "shittiest" <Blazinghand> which is literally comparing it <Oatsmaster> it was hyperbole <Oatsmaster> relax <Oatsmaster> ok so who are the dudes in this town circle of yours <Blazinghand> HAH <Oatsmaster> and what reads did you have <Blazinghand> nice try <Blazinghand> scum <Blazinghand> lynch qp tomorrow imo <Blazinghand> i'm still not sure why we didn't lynch him today <Blazinghand> you really want me to give you the list of names in my circle? <Oatsmaster> lol yeah i dunno why BC lynched someone we didnt even discuss <Oatsmaster> yes <Blazinghand> you've done nothing to make me think you're town <Blazinghand> except I guess think i'm scum <Oatsmaster> k <Blazinghand> which is a classic town move <Blazinghand> so how about instead <Blazinghand> you tell me what you think of BC <Oatsmaster> i think he is town <Oatsmaster> why not just lynch you? <Oatsmaster> and I dont think both of you are sucm <Blazinghand> because i put some pressure on him in pmland not to <Oatsmaster> so yeah <Oatsmaster> did he say anything about storr? -From the QT. | ||
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On January 29 2014 10:01 Oatsmaster wrote: For the record: Grack is scummy as fuckkk for not playing the game but instead canvassing for votes by pming everyone. I PM'd you because I thought you would vote for me because you've been speaking highly of my play since I attacked you in White Flag. | ||
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On January 29 2014 10:06 Oatsmaster wrote: and then you lost all that cred because of SMB. Look, I rarely remember games after they are over. lol I don't see how that makes any sense. My reads were actually superior to anybody else's in the game or in the obs QT. Not my fault that some people are only ever willing to listen to certain people and can't actually tell what makes someone scum. | ||
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On January 29 2014 10:07 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah so why didnt anyone say anything in their mayor campaigns? Because I'm lazy? I thought bum was scum too without bothering to write anything because people were only willing to vote for BC because he's such an amazing scumhunter; Even though I've never actually seen BC lynch scum. | ||
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On January 29 2014 10:12 Oatsmaster wrote: yeah but you didnt play the game. playing the game is very important. You hardly did anything this game too. How did I not play the game exactly? People lynched me in the last second after I wrote out the only bit of scum hunting that took place that entire game. Why do you think there was no other alternative to me/hopeless all day1? It's because the town spent the entire day writing. "fucking hopeless/Grack are being unhelpful. Must Lynch" | ||
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On January 18 2014 02:47 Oatsmaster wrote: wtf is this shit? I really dont think Grack is flipping scum with koshi playing like this. On January 18 2014 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote: lol all of you are really bad. On January 18 2014 14:02 Oatsmaster wrote: Hmm ok I dont know about you guys, but when 4-5 people are switching willy nilly, scum isnt gonna get lynched. | ||
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On January 29 2014 12:32 Oatsmaster wrote: Grack, what exactly do you mean by the bolded portion? That all the vets are town? | ||
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http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/r8u3aTQqtByY Inside the QT Kushm4sta wrote, "dont tell anyone. im giving mocsta scum coaching through pms. im telling him how to make his read of coag look more townie." It doesn't say that in there anymore, but it did at one point - note the timestamps. Grackaroni 01-29-2014 04:06 PM ET (US) "dont tell anyone. im giving mocsta scum coaching through pms. im telling him how to make his read of coag look more townie." What's this? Kushm4sta 01-29-2014 04:08 PM ET (US) FUCKIN ALAKA 19 Deleted by author 01-29-2014 04:09 PM I really have no clue what that means but Kush deleting it is super sketchy | ||
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On January 30 2014 10:37 kushm4sta wrote: LOL jokes people rayn do you know what a joke is? oats thing was a joke obviously. I think he is pretty cleared now that balla tried to get him in trouble. grack what you saw in that qt was also a joke. I really doubt that. But I'll guess we'll find out at the end of the game. | ||
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On January 30 2014 11:24 kushm4sta wrote: so grack that's all you got? you uncovered that bullshit now you have no other thoughts about the game? Well for the bullshit uncovering at best it seems like you, as town, were helping somebody you thought was scum appear more townie. (Which wouldn't exactly be playing to win.) And then tried to cover it up by deleting the post and saying it was just a joke. As for the game, I haven't really been keeping up with it that well but it looks like I was wrong on Oats. | ||
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On January 30 2014 12:57 kushm4sta wrote: k grack since you believe me about bum, who do you want to lynch tomorrow? Kill Coag | ||
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On January 31 2014 04:28 bumatlarge wrote: Meh, after all this, mocsta is probably town. Coag, Grack and Skan. Wakey Wakey Eggs & Bullshit! | ||
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On January 31 2014 07:34 Alakaslam wrote: Oh hey I was roleblocked GASP! who could have leaked your secret role? | ||
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On February 01 2014 02:07 bumatlarge wrote: Grack is mafia. Let's hear it Bummers. | ||
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On February 01 2014 02:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol. now you don't look so townie any more. heh I don't think I ever did. | ||
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On February 01 2014 02:51 bumatlarge wrote: I can understand why people would start to distrust one another if someone knew he was a doctor. But heaven forbid this is the reason kush gets shot. LOL | ||
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On February 01 2014 03:00 bumatlarge wrote: Well you are active, but there is no interest in your posting. I said demotivated before, but that isn't the right word for it. More or less disinterested. Coag is an easy vote, but aside from that your play has been whimsical. Are you playing different off camera or something? Oh that's actually not that bad. I am disinterested because Balla was killed and I'm stuck on a mafia team with coagulation. | ||
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Oats - town bum - probably town Slam - town BH - confirmed town and obv town before that BC confirmed town and was also pretty likely town before that Thrawn- really unlikely for Thrawn to be mafia | ||
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Your reaction of thinking that I might be just trying to fuck coag and then roll over the next day seems like it comes from a townie. Rayn voting Coag does not seem that way. | ||
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On February 01 2014 04:05 Skanjab1s wrote: Coag post your seal Which seal will it be? | ||
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On February 01 2014 04:10 Blazinghand wrote: is seal coag's version of STARSENSES? lol no he has a seal that certifies his townieness that he is only willing to post as town | ||
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On January 29 2014 21:32 Skanjab1s wrote: This is his only reasoning for me being his 3rd highest scumread. It's that I said I think coag is scum. Coag, who is his second highest scumread (Also for terrible reasoning, as kush has pointed out). This logic does not make sense from a town perspective, and is incredibly weak. For Oats, he gives this pile of ass. "You have done some very townie things, but then you did this one thing that I don't see town doing" A completely null read. The thing that he gives Oats a townread for isn't even a town-tell. Scum and town can both be emotionally invested in the game, and Oats as scum HAS been emotionally invested in the past. He ends this off with an incredibly easy to answer question, which would serve to remove his "suspicion" from Oats. I can definitely see these two as a scumteam. But I'll save the connection stuff for after Mocsta flips. -Says his activity seems to have dropped, just as bum's has. For bum, he thinks that "after an active start, he has taken a backseat to the game" and that this "makes a lot of sense as scum." But for Balla, this very same thing is a null-tell, because other people think he is town? This does not make logical sense unless he is fabricating reasoning for Bum being scum. This post alone gives better reason for lynching Mocsta than there is for lynching Bum. The entire case on Bum is that he hasn't done anything and seems disinterested. Also that he's bad. Is there any explanation at all for why Mocsta ended up joining the wagon to lynch Balla when he was giving him the benefit of the doubt before. Beyond that Kush has already given reasons for why a Balla/Bum scum team isn't too likely. And Rayn wants to have me believe that a team of Bum/Oatsmaster/Balla/Coag shot Kushm4sta. I'll just make the same deal as last time. If Mocsta flips town you can lynch me. ##Vote: Mocsta | ||
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Why that's on a need to know basis. | ||
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On February 03 2014 12:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote: if your refusing to tell me (easily pmable) and say its need to know then I know your scum. *You're. | ||
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On February 03 2014 12:55 Oatsmaster wrote: LSB please flip grack who is almost certaintly town. lol | ||
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