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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 30 2014 03:42 GMT
#1715
I should, from essence of balla lol
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 30 2014 19:28 GMT
#1829
On January 30 2014 21:46 kushm4sta wrote:
for all the talk about wasting time, i just wasted 10 minutes of my time reading all that drama.

Your circle is the worst, bh. It's been infiltrated by scum since the beginning of the game. And you can't take credit for killing balla because literally everyone wanted to kill him.

This is the scumteam I'm thinking right now:
Coagulation
Mocsta
Grackaroni




Meh, after all this, mocsta is probably town. Coag, Grack and Skan.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 16:47 GMT
#1976
On January 31 2014 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You guys are seriously really bad at mafia if you think one post or "case" that's never followed up in any way in the whole game makes those two people "2% chance to be mafia together".

Like do you think mafia is nover "suspicious" of other mafia? That was not even a fucking bus, it was a retarded comment that bumatlarge never ever never followed up. He has never even talked about Balla after that. NEVER.

Then he shows up, has not even read the thread, in this whole agame, and hammers someone. YES!!

Then he talks about reads with Mocsta, except that he has not read the thread and can't have reads. But he is suspicious of Skanjabs. And Slam & Coag. Hmm.. why those three people? Because he is a fucking mafia and he knows who he can possibly even get lynched and who he can't. Why does he think i am town? Why does he think thrawn is town? Oats? Grackaroni?

Dude has seriously more informationb that he pretends to have.


This has to be the most ignorant statement in the thread. I'm not supposed to have reads? I do think grack is mafia.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 16:52 GMT
#1980
On January 31 2014 21:42 Skanjab1s wrote:
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On January 31 2014 21:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You guys are seriously really bad at mafia if you think one post or "case" that's never followed up in any way in the whole game makes those two people "2% chance to be mafia together".

Like do you think mafia is nover "suspicious" of other mafia? That was not even a fucking bus, it was a retarded comment that bumatlarge never ever never followed up. He has never even talked about Balla after that. NEVER.


Look at their interactions:
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On January 26 2014 16:22 Balla24 wrote:
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On January 26 2014 16:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Logical leaps in PM land. I said I want to see alot of voting to help my assessment of people, and he asked if I was going to lynch one of the people running. That was a big assumption, but I could be wrong. He seems paranoid about his well-being. I don't understand why he would jump to that when I haven't said anything about him at that point.


You said you wanted to put a lot of stock into who votes for who. My first thought is:

- He wants to deduce relationships between people.

So I then think, well relationships are useless between unflipped players, so he must be planning on lynching a mayoral candidate (someone who was garnering votes) to be able to see if there might be scum-scum votes or the like. I don't see how that's a strange thing to think about, so I asked you.




On January 26 2014 16:23 Balla24 wrote:
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On January 26 2014 16:22 bumatlarge wrote:
On January 26 2014 16:18 Balla24 wrote:
Paranoid about my well-being? How so?


Well you are one of three other people running besies myself, and when I tell you I'm going to look at the votes, you jump to that. It seems a little self interested, when I never said anything about that.


Wasn't at all my thought. See above for my thought process.


It is very unlikely that a scumteam would make up a conversation, and then talk about it in this much detail to call each other scummy. But we do need to see the logs between them,
Bum can you post the logs between you and Balla, please?

I agree with you on thrawn, rayn, I think he scum. Along with Mocsta and one of Alaka/Coag. That's my bragging rights scumteam bet.

You also haven't answered my question on Mocsta. Could you please do so, and also look at his balla read, especially in that awful case post that me and kush destroyed the other day.


While you and kush are right, you need a more to be sure that someone is town other then an interaction.

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Original Message From Balla24:
Nah it's reasonable I guess. Just not what I was thinking though.

Anyways i'm going to bed, i'll reply tomorrow if you still think my thought process doesn't make sense.

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Original Message From bumatlarge:
I'm just paying attention to the flags I see man. It's still early, I'm sure if you are town it will alleviate that notion. I wouln't have immediately said anything, but I told a person on IRC who I thought was thrawn about it, and they said they thought you were scummy. So There is that.

Original Message From Balla24:
You seriously scum read me off of what I said here? It's legitimately what I thought you were implying. Turns out you were just thinking the opposite way.

Original Message From bumatlarge:
Right now it is weak, but it will get stronger. Vote placement, even for mayor, is another facet to analyze. If people say alot but don't vote that's something less to go on. It might sound silly, but I think it will end up surprising you. Take it as a late lesson. That mayor lynching conclusion is pretty weird of you. I'm a little worried

Original Message From Balla24:
I don't know it's just one of the first things I think about when talking about deducing relationships from votes.

Mayor votes feel a lot different then lynch votes. They don't really hold the meaning that lynch votes do since we aren't voting to kill anybody. So I disagree that it's a town tell, especially since people throw them out so willy-nilly. And I also disagree that its something we should focus on. Maybe if you could elaborate?


Original Message From bumatlarge:
Why would you jump to that conclusion? I probably wouldn't lynch any of the runners without better reasons. I was more or less talking about the voters. For instance, look at thrawn. I think him voting for me that early is a pretty nice town tell for me. Why would scum do that so early, unless we were both scum. If another mayor were to lynch thrawn and he flip green, I think that says something about me.

Original Message From Balla24:
So that you can deduce relationships between people? Does that mean you are planning on lynching one of the mayor candidates?

Original Message From bumatlarge:
I'm going to concentrate a lot on votes this game. The more votes that are made, the more I have to analyze. I kinda feel like what I say is true, but I think alot of voting is important. I wanted to tell you because, yes technically what I said isn't completely true about it going quickly.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 16:56 GMT
#1983
On February 01 2014 01:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta asked you to tell your reads. You said some wishy washy general things abous some people. When he asked to clarify you said "but i have not been able to play, i have not been able to be on computer, i have not been able to do anything.. i have not been able to talk people..".

Excuses, excuses. For about 5 irl-days you have done jack shit in this game.
so in case you some weord fucking reason are town, start now.


You sound like you need to calm down. Please attempt to talk with me when you become rational. Thrawn is very likely town, because he is one of the few people I have talked to. He didn't give a lot of scum reads, but he was intent on learning my alignment. His vote on me for mayor that early in the game I took as a town tell.

Are you this sure of me being scum because I haven't been around? Think it through again.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 16:59 GMT
#1986
On February 01 2014 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also how does the conversation start? Doesn't look like legit start of PM-convo.


It was after one of his posts in the thread, it's relevant. I'll try to find it.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:02 GMT
#1988
On January 26 2014 10:29 Balla24 wrote:
Why are you rushing people to declare their candidacy? Last game marv didn't run for a long time and he ended up being the best candidate. Let things develop as they develop.

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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:07 GMT
#1991
Grack is mafia. How can you call me scum for reads, or thrawn for just town reads, when there is a post like this.

On January 29 2014 08:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Balla could be a solid lynch as well.

I'm basically working with this group of townies:
Grackaroni
Bloodyc0bbler
Raynpelikoneet
Blazinghand
Mocsta
Thrawn
Alakaslam

Leaving 4 scum in the remaining 6 people.


You are ignoring players for what is curently on the table rayn. I have yet to say who I think is town aside from a few players. I never said I thought you were town, but just because I haven't mentioned you, you jump to that conclusion.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:11 GMT
#1993
On February 01 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On February 01 2014 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So did you not think Balla's thought process made sense or?

Although this is a relevant question.

Why did you never ever talk about Balla after that PM-convo / thread post?

Like, did your scumread somehow fade into oblivion? And then you just happened to chime in and hammer him with "i have not been able to play so idk wtf is going on but YOLO, let's hammer someone" or what?


Becacuse I wasn't here. I knew my vote was early, but I can't help if I was the hammer. That's not really indicative of anything if you aren't looking at anyone else on there. He was a red-read, so I would have liked to see him lynched, especially if there was a chance we were going to lynch me.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:12 GMT
#1994
On February 01 2014 02:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so you wanted people to vote, and vote fast. That was your intention.
Where are the vote analysis?

Seriously, every single thing you have promised to do in this game you have not done. Do you think it's townie?


It doesn't matter at this point because everyone you and BC wanted to lynch were town. You have a very selective memory if you don't remember the one real post I made in the past few days.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:30 GMT
#2005
I won't hammer coag, but I doubt thats going to change how he plays.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 17:51 GMT
#2032
I can understand why people would start to distrust one another if someone knew he was a doctor.

On January 31 2014 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:
More likely shot because of his reads


But heaven forbid this is the reason kush gets shot.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 18:00 GMT
#2037
Well you are active, but there is no interest in your posting. I said demotivated before, but that isn't the right word for it. More or less disinterested. Coag is an easy vote, but aside from that your play has been whimsical. Are you playing different off camera or something?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 18:03 GMT
#2038
I guess I was trying to justify kush dying as well, but this whole issue with thrawn, rayn and rayn make me doubt myself. You could still be lucky, and he just happens to be a doctor.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 18:43 GMT
#2075
On February 01 2014 03:27 Grackaroni wrote:
If Coag flips town you guys can lynch me. Once he flips scum it should be pretty clear that Rayn has just been trying to save his kp and pushing whatever townie he can.


Ok, so this kinda tells me coag is a mislynch. He clearly talks about saving KP, not in reference to himself but to rayn. Mafia is at 2kp and any dead scum causes it to go to 1kp. That is a very drastic difference, and inherently pushes lylo forward a day. With coag, you can kind of build around him as scum, because nothing you say about him means shit. This is stupid reasoning by grack if he is mafia, but it is much worse coming from town.

I feel pretty confident grack is taking what he can get at this point and that coag is going to flip town.

##Vote grackaroni
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 18:46 GMT
#2077
You shouldn't let him twist your arm like this with awful logic.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 18:47 GMT
#2079
On February 01 2014 03:45 Grackaroni wrote:
Bum, why do you think Rayn failed to make that connection?


Why would he not make that connection as mafia?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 18:48 GMT
#2080
On February 01 2014 03:47 Grackaroni wrote:
What awful logic? Rayn thinks that I'm mafia and he still voted Coag after I accused him or trying to shift the lynch away from coag to save mafia kp.


I am not following this in the slightest. Can you explain what you are trying to or did here?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 18:51 GMT
#2083
It would be more obvious to me if you thought rayn was scummy, but I don't see much in terms of you thinking rayn is mafia. Is this on-going outside of the thread?
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 31 2014 19:04 GMT
#2091
Look at these bullshit votes. He's not going to be hammered because everyone not on him is likely town.
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