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On January 26 2014 16:22 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 16:12 bumatlarge wrote:
Logical leaps in PM land. I said I want to see alot of voting to help my assessment of people, and he asked if I was going to lynch one of the people running. That was a big assumption, but I could be wrong. He seems paranoid about his well-being. I don't understand why he would jump to that when I haven't said anything about him at that point. You said you wanted to put a lot of stock into who votes for who. My first thought is: - He wants to deduce relationships between people. So I then think, well relationships are useless between unflipped players, so he must be planning on lynching a mayoral candidate (someone who was garnering votes) to be able to see if there might be scum-scum votes or the like. I don't see how that's a strange thing to think about, so I asked you.
I suppose? But it would work in the opposite direction, a voter woul probably tell me more about the candidate then the candidate about the voter.
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People seem to be playing like there is a zodiac list. If you are going to throw the word vet around, you should probably look into that.
I like what BC has been reading from QP, but GGtemplar has been a lot worse. I can't think of a reason to ask people their role. I can understand why people say balla is town, but he looks awful in my PM land. And can anyone explain mocsta faking to be other people in IRC? Why would you ever do that. That's by far the scummiest thing someone has done this game. I would lynch him.
People should vote. As long as BC remains active, I can read him. People don't realize that recognizable names usually have a tough time playing the long term as mafia. The scrutiny is heavy. I'm ok with him as mayor. I'm still here though :D
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On January 27 2014 05:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Real quick.
I am now agreeing with VE. I think "Wile" has lost interest in the game entirely... What is not a lot of reading to is is a ton to him apparently... And I don't think anyone has bothered to message him. Doesn't seem like it.
May need plynch. Sorry.
Generally people who complain about not getting PMs are those that don't make the effort to send them. New people should start up conversations with whoever they think they can.
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On January 27 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2014 05:56 bumatlarge wrote:
People seem to be playing like there is a zodiac list. If you are going to throw the word vet around, you should probably look into that.
I like what BC has been reading from QP, but GGtemplar has been a lot worse. I can't think of a reason to ask people their role. I can understand why people say balla is town, but he looks awful in my PM land. And can anyone explain mocsta faking to be other people in IRC? Why would you ever do that. That's by far the scummiest thing someone has done this game. I would lynch him.
People should vote. As long as BC remains active, I can read him. People don't realize that recognizable names usually have a tough time playing the long term as mafia. The scrutiny is heavy. I'm ok with him as mayor. I'm still here though :D To clarify, I think the allegation against GGTemp is that he's asking people IF THEY ARE a role, not which role they have.
Town might care what particular role it is, but mafia usually just try want to hit blue.
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On January 27 2014 06:13 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2014 06:11 bumatlarge wrote:On January 27 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 27 2014 05:56 bumatlarge wrote:
People seem to be playing like there is a zodiac list. If you are going to throw the word vet around, you should probably look into that.
I like what BC has been reading from QP, but GGtemplar has been a lot worse. I can't think of a reason to ask people their role. I can understand why people say balla is town, but he looks awful in my PM land. And can anyone explain mocsta faking to be other people in IRC? Why would you ever do that. That's by far the scummiest thing someone has done this game. I would lynch him.
People should vote. As long as BC remains active, I can read him. People don't realize that recognizable names usually have a tough time playing the long term as mafia. The scrutiny is heavy. I'm ok with him as mayor. I'm still here though :D To clarify, I think the allegation against GGTemp is that he's asking people IF THEY ARE a role, not which role they have. Town might care what particular role it is, but mafia usually just try want to hit blue. Are you really arguing that a townies are more likely to ask for a specific role and mafia players are just curious if people have a role?
I'm saying on top of an already anti-town question, he phrases it the worse way. If town was to ask that, say if they felt that person trusted them (still bad), town wouldn't want to just know a power role, they'd ask about what they are going to do with the role. Thats why they are there.
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On January 27 2014 06:25 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2014 06:22 bumatlarge wrote:On January 27 2014 06:13 Grackaroni wrote:On January 27 2014 06:11 bumatlarge wrote:On January 27 2014 06:06 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 27 2014 05:56 bumatlarge wrote:
People seem to be playing like there is a zodiac list. If you are going to throw the word vet around, you should probably look into that.
I like what BC has been reading from QP, but GGtemplar has been a lot worse. I can't think of a reason to ask people their role. I can understand why people say balla is town, but he looks awful in my PM land. And can anyone explain mocsta faking to be other people in IRC? Why would you ever do that. That's by far the scummiest thing someone has done this game. I would lynch him.
People should vote. As long as BC remains active, I can read him. People don't realize that recognizable names usually have a tough time playing the long term as mafia. The scrutiny is heavy. I'm ok with him as mayor. I'm still here though :D To clarify, I think the allegation against GGTemp is that he's asking people IF THEY ARE a role, not which role they have. Town might care what particular role it is, but mafia usually just try want to hit blue. Are you really arguing that a townies are more likely to ask for a specific role and mafia players are just curious if people have a role? I'm saying on top of an already anti-town question, he phrases it the worse way. If town was to ask that, say if they felt that person trusted them (still bad), town wouldn't want to just know a power role, they'd ask about what they are going to do with the role. Thats why they are there. And you don't believe mafia would be curious about how that person would use his role?
Why would you when they would just shoot him...
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Moctsa, I'm glad you thought that was funny, but when I'm trying to talk to people and I have to worry about potential town people trolling me, it is disheartening. I'm open to talk about what you did if you want to PM me. If you value your life you will.
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I'm pretty tired, I'm going to make a better effort on figuring out who I want to lynch tomorrow.
##unvote
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How to Analyze Mayor Races.
By Primate Inspectacle Bum
This is pretty nice and split down the middle. BC and Rayn are both sides.
On January 28 2014 06:56 LSB wrote:
Votecount
BloodyC0bbler (8): kushm4sta, Skanjab1s, Mocsta, bumatlarge, QuantumPope, Oatsmaster, BloodyC0bbler, StorrZerg
VisceraEyes (1): VisceraEyes
raynpelikoneet (8): raynpelikoneet, Blazinghand, Alakaslam, thrawn2112, Grackaroni, Coagulation, Balla24, GGTeMpLaR
Note Voting: Tehpoofter,
Day ends in 5 minutes, voting is required. It is 10 votes for instant majority lynch Mayorship
What we need are both candidates to answer these
1) Who you were going to lynch
2) People you considered
3) People you were in contact with about these
Rayn
This one is hard to garner from, because it didn't follow through. But that really only falls flat if Rayn is scum and then any scum voting him. That still gives us info on all the other voters.
1) QP
2) BC and bum, maybe storr
3) thrawn, public knowledge.
This makes it pretty straightforward. Everyone on Rayn knew what they were voting for. What Rayn would have done is pretty null, but we have everyone else.
QP(BC, bum, storr) - Blazinghand, Alakaslam, thrawn2112, Grackaroni, Coagulation, Balla24, GGTeMpLaR
This is worth having later. Mental note.
BC
More relevant. The Storr lynch was a bit of a blindside, I want to hear what BC has to say publically, and I also want to hear what people he was in contact about this. It's fairly scummy to do that on your own, but the more people he talked about it with the more it makes sense.
1) StorrZerg
2) QP? (Need clarification)
3) Need clarification
StorrZerg - kushm4sta, Skanjab1s, Mocsta, bumatlarge, QuantumPope, Oatsmaster, StorrZerg
If people want to come forward with more information, it would be appreciated. I thought we were getting one of BH, GG or mocsta lynched, but I was away and I couldn't come back to make a bigger impact on what was going on. I don't think I would have been behind StorrZerg a lynch.
Mocsta
I have a better grasp on Mocsta, but in no way is it a town read.
On January 27 2014 13:37 Mocsta wrote:Hello. Finally caught up on the thread.
(1) BC is dodgy Show nested quote +On January 27 2014 11:33 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Mocsta has a very high chance of flipping scum imo. He is activeish via irc/pms but has been dodging the thread. Untop of that he was actively doing shennanigans on irc that are extremely suspect. Firstly, his accusation that I have been dodging the thread? Based on what? I have been open to everyone that I have been busy, too busy to read the thread. The commitment of PMs is significantly less than the thread. Further, I tried to engage in dialogue with BC yesterday with a straight forward ice breaker to be promptly ignored. Then he tries to slander my by talking about shennanigans. Again, explain the "extremely suspect" motive BC. Go on... I dare you. I agree with Storr, you are not a suitable mayor candidate; let alone a town read for me. Having played 3 or 4 games with you as both on the scum team, I am very much aware that you like to start off your scum games by picking on what you perceive as weak players. Quantom Pope fits this bill both in reputation on TL (unknown) and how you approached him as a scum read with the attack. I am curious to see these PM logs that VE state show you are looking after towns best interests; because everything I have seen publicly suggests otherwise.
My current top two lynch candidates are VE whom I am not liking this cycle for a variety of reasons I will discuss below & potentially BC based on the above whom seems to be trying to take easy swipes at anyone and everyone.
He calls BC and VE scummy, but QP town. I don't see much evidence of why he voted BC. Light shed would be appreciated, by mocsta or anyone. Scum read.
QuantumPope
This post punched me in the face. My nose is bleeding.
On January 28 2014 05:54 QuantumPope wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 04:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
anyone talked to QP in PM/irc? also i would like to see sum bum logs if someone wouldn't mind sending some Not a soul has spoken to me. I feel like I've missed out on a significant amount chatter behind the scenes but apparently a lot of people are making assumptions based on PMs. I've been trying to give the best reads possible with the lack of information. In my opinion, I am trying to play this as honestly as possible with giving all my reads to the thread. If anything I'm just disappointed that you don't seem to be reading me as town BC. My reads have changed though and I'll give my final scum reads written here: Skanjab1s - Claiming to be PMing people who haven't been involved yet I have yet to see anything from him so that makes me suspicious. Not liking his "experience" reads, especially on a player just joining the fray.
StorrZerg - Seems to be taking a lot of his content to PM and not sharing it with the rest of the crowd. His reasoning for not voting BC just seems off to me and I feel like I'm not getting the whole picture of Storr's play.
tehpoofter - Max lurk.
VE - feels fine in my books but I don't really know why he doesn't think BC is town.
bum - Just seems to be reading off of BC's reads but he really didn't give explanations for his own. Did not enjoy this.
As for my vote: BC seems extremely active today now and his specific attacks on people who are claiming things in private seem very town to me. While I don't agree with his lynch on BH or his read on myself, I think his overall reads are leading town in the right direction. He seems to know the majority of the players in this game and seems to have well established reads on them.VE would be my second choice. ##vote BloodyC0bblerThis post was much more rushed than my last one but unfortunately I don't have time to do much more than this. I'd be happy to answer any questions you have either in thread or PM.
This is weak. A generalized vote, regardless of the lynch targets. And I thought him mentioning StorrZerg among others is interesting, but that just caught my eye.
Quantum is scum. If BC is scum with him, that would explain the lynch at least. I'll repeat myself: BC needs to provide more information on his thought process, and anyone who has been in contact would be doing us all a favor in figuring this out.
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I'll be on IRC for a little bit if people want to ask/answer stuff.
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Sorry rayn, I started writing the post at the same time i got your PM. I may have forgotten to edit it.
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On January 28 2014 16:20 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
bum didn't analyze my mayoral campaign
top scum still
That little vote stunt was stupid, but it looks town. Especially if storr was town with his last vote.
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Sorry I've been gone. Didn't expect to be busy when I signed up. That's why I stepped down from the race, don't know why tht isn't obvious.
I was confident about QP, but that tells me the race mattered very little. BC is town, so if anything there is more likely to be scum that voted for Rayn. I'm down with lynching balla. I'll try to be back tonight.
##vote balla24
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Herp derp derp
PM me if u wanna chit
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Did he vote? If not, probably wasn't a bus.
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LOL did coagulation just say that? ##lnch coagulation
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Oh it's night ##bomb coag
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@alakslam let myself look scummy? What is tht supposed to mean? Just because I don't post a lot I looks scummy? We got beef dude
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