On January 29 2014 06:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here is why bumatlarge is mafia:This is literally everything he has done in this game:
- Made a mayor campaign, but shared no reads at all.
- Suddenly uncampaigned and voted for BC.
Okay, what were his reasons:
- demotivated (bla bla)
- Agreed with BC's reads and they shared smae reads/lynch targets.
Let's look at the only real reason:
I asked bumatlarge what were these lynch targets they agreed on with BC. He told me Mocsta and GGTeMpLaR. I asked him to prove it with logs or PM's, because there is nothing about it in thread. He says he has no logs from irc because of some reason. BC refuses to give me those logs.
Anyways, this is what was discussed on Mocsta and GGTeMpLaR:
Show nested quote +Original Message From bumatlarge:
Yeah pretty much, i dont have the IRC logs. I've spoken with him since then. It is possible is was trolling as town, but I didn't like it.
Original Message From raynpelikoneet:
Like that was your reason for suspecting Mocsta? All of it?
Original Message From bumatlarge:
The GGtemplar read was discussed in the thread.
Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
well he could if there were no witness' lol
Original Message From bumatlarge:
I don't, but he can't deny he did it.
Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
do you have the record of that convo with mocsta btw?
Original Message From bumatlarge:
yeah
Original Message From BloodyC0bbler:
on irc?
Original Message From bumatlarge:
Sweet, if you get mayor over me, consider mocsta. He faked his name to me, and thats ok if you are trolling, but when i started talking to him he didnt correct himself. He logged out and then logged in as his own name.
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Original Message From raynpelikoneet:
1 & 2)
- I wanted to lynch QP and only QP. Did not consider lynching anyone else.
- I considered BC scum since his refusal to talk with me about QP and his terrible lynch on Storr.
- I consider(ed) you scum because all you did was had a mayor campaign, then you dropped it for no apparent reason and just voted for BC with no reasoning.
- I considered Storr mafia because BC had him as #2 scumread but Storr refused to elect me and wanted to elect BC (seems pretty stupid given he is BC's top 2 scumread - apparently he was just stupid)
3) thrawn + thread. Blazinghand is clearly town for what i said many times in thread.
I would love to have your logs with BC and hopefully one of you guys have them and send them to me. Otherwise it's really goddamn fishy because BC has not really implied his interest in lynching either Mocsta/GG, ever.
Original Message From bumatlarge:
Can you give me
1) Who you were going to lynch
2) People you considered
3) People you were in contact with about these
I'm assuming number 1 and 2 are among these
On January 28 2014 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
QP
BC
Storr
bum
ezpz
But I want your clarification. I know you are thinking what I am thinking. I wasn't going to be too active, so there was no reason to stay in the race, especially if I know it wasn't going to gain momentum. I voted BC because he seemed to be on board with lynching mocsta or templar. Obviously things changed since then and I want to know who he else he was considering. BH and QP?
Okay so bumatlarge's reasoning for suspecting Mocsta is "he did fake someone to me in irc".
SERIOUSLY WTF?!?! That's the stupidest reason ever.
Reasons to suspect GGTeMpLaR; "It was discussed in thread". NO IT WAS NOT! YOU NEVER DISCUSSED ANYTHING IN THREAD!
One more thing, look at why and how bumatlarge votes for BC for mayor.
His reasons are "he shares a scumread on GG and Mocsta and wants to lynch them".
That's not correct, BEFORE bum votes for BC, BC has said he will lynch Blazinghand and the only other person he considers is Storrzerg.
bumatlarge's story does not add up.Here are the posts BC lays out his reads the last time before bum votes for him and bum's vote:
Show nested quote +On January 28 2014 02:21 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
OK heres how things stand.
I have suitably been given enough Information via thread and irc to consolidate my read for the day.
IF elected, barring any shenanigans between now and the deadline, I will lynch BH.
The reasons for this are simple.
First off he "shared" Alakaslams role for no reason to VE. He has been unable to justify this to anyone I have talked to or to myself. Its day 1, and its fucked up that he would do it as town.
Secondly. He said he was planning on going out of his way to find a suitable candidate for the day and push them as he didn't want to be elected. He has then with "prodding" decided he was going to actually run. However this was over a day between these posts and he never at any point recommended anyone vote for one of the other candidates.
His scum read of VE is incredibly weird. He apparently trolled VE which got VE understandably confused. Then based on irc/in thread BH thinks VE is scum primarily in regards to a case Mocsta made. But never provided a new point of his own. He never clarified why he believes one of mocsta and VE has to be scum and the other town and how he made that differation.
Also his entire play has changed from the last 3 games hes played. In LXIII he was a third party assassin. In the first version of this game he was a town mason. In both those games he played a clearly distinct style. He is now showing a third style of play this game. Given he went third party, town, and now we have a third play style I am suspecting its scum.
The only other person I am currently considering as a suspect is storrzerg. His interactions with me were incredibly weird, and i know the general opinion of him from those he has played with before is that hes scum. I also know hes been far more active in pms than the thread thats fishy as fuck.
See the timestamps. Right!
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