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Can we discuss modkills in game? Can we discuss scumteam resignation in game? | ||
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On January 16 2014 09:18 Sn0_Man wrote: PS dandel isn't it 47.75 hours? Lets lynch the host why are we lynching the host? | ||
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On January 16 2014 09:34 Sn0_Man wrote: Vayne do you really have to dump image macros every game? yeah im fine with lynching sn0 at this point. ##vote sn0 @thrawn was rayn talking in another game? | ||
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On January 16 2014 09:39 Sn0_Man wrote: You know kush I'd accuse you of needing an easy target but thats really not how you play... cool someone else who thinks they are a kush expert. Only one person is a kush expert and that's thrawn. | ||
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On January 16 2014 09:50 thrawn2112 wrote: btw ksuh. you should giver this a skim he was scum? | ||
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On January 16 2014 10:01 Hopeless1der wrote: i'm catching up on AGDQ i missed out on. I'm just peachy. No wait banana-y It's so anti town to claim vt. You seem to have an especially bad understanding of mafia mechanics. | ||
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On January 16 2014 10:06 Hopeless1der wrote: so you calling me scum kush? Im not calling you anything. You are calling yourself VT which im just informing you is bad for town. So you shoulnd't do it ever again please. | ||
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On January 16 2014 10:25 Sn0_Man wrote: I dunno it sounds incredibly stupid to waltz into a thread as scum and blatantly announce that you are lurking and avoiding contributing. Admittedly, still stupid to do as town, but less so. that's the kind of scum player grack is i think though, as thrawn just explained. caught 2/3 scum already, a couple confirmed town. pretty good start imo | ||
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##unvote ##vote sn0 And fuck no am I giving Oats a townread for that display. I think it was a huge overreaction. | ||
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On January 16 2014 22:09 Oatsmaster wrote: by thrawn? Yup. How is sn0 anywhere near scummy and not bad? by you | ||
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On January 17 2014 03:12 Skanjab1s wrote: kush do you think I am an upstanding townie citizen? i need to organize my nightkill candidates yeah i think you are town. | ||
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godamn lay off. if i knew you were going to ask why i wouldn't have answered you | ||
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On January 17 2014 06:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Kush, you go from this: To this: One is pretty "serious" and not at all in line with what I'd expect of you, and one is trolly, amusing, and very much in line with the public perception others have of you. What happened in the middle was that people were claiming that when you are serious like that you are scum. If you'd like to explain i'm all ears. scum | ||
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On January 17 2014 05:41 thrawn2112 wrote: oh, sn0man is oh so town. his point earoier is correct: 1. call sn0 out for fucking around with his first posts "this guy isn't scum hunting" 2. "but no, he's not fucking around enough to be town! also pay attention to his attitude towards D1 scumhunting (orsorta scumhunting in general) in this game and in WC2. ^^^^^ for that i recommend reading his D1 play from wc2, as well as his reentrance to the thread at mylo where everyone thought he was scum and it was time for him to step up or go home, and he started off by making a bunch of half accusations at rayn and was very wishy-washy about whether rayn was scum or not i dont think this is right. your summary of the the points against him is not correct. I think he look totally different from wc (not that that makes him scum necessarily but it could) | ||
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and how can a townie of his calibre disagree withyou therefore he must be scum? the worst thing about your terrible cases, rayn, is that they are infused with arrogance. It makes them even more irritating to read. | ||
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On January 17 2014 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like i am 99% sure kush is mafia because he FROZE after my case on him and before that he was acting on his mafia-self. But i wanna lynch Toad because he is mafia too and i can say "fuck it, i told you!" wat... | ||
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On January 17 2014 07:35 Hopeless1der wrote: i reserve the right to policy lynch anti-town play. you have the right to vote not lynch | ||
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On January 17 2014 07:49 Toadesstern wrote: ... now I'm scared... is it usual for townies to call lynches wagons these days? I usually only hear mafias use that word along the lines of something à la "duh, totally stupid wagon that formed without a reason, stop voting that".... I'd certainly say it has a negative connotation. so as scum why would i be more likely to use a word with a negative connotation? | ||
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On January 17 2014 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: No my case is you say stupid shit that does not make any sense at all as mafia and you don't do that as town. hmm ok what stupid scummy shit have i said this game? btw i believe everythiing I ever said about you when i was scum. just fyi, | ||
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about you, I just said you were wrong about skanjab. i think you have an atrocious d1, a horrible track record proving that, and I have always been upfront in that believe. doesn't make me scum. | ||
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On January 17 2014 08:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are town you start saying things that make sense. If you are not you continue with this trolling behavior. in my last town game did i not troll the shit out of wbg? | ||
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we have a townie off. where we pick someone who we think it scummiest (someone who hasn't been discussed that much) and make a case on them to prove our towniness. the loser gets lynched. | ||
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On January 17 2014 08:31 Hopeless1der wrote: i distinctly remember someone commenting on rayns game saying that he has good day1 reads and he gets worse over time. anyone remember who and when that was? that was marv but he's wrong | ||
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jsut wanna add to this. rayn gets crazy and starts making terrible cases when he gets too much information, that is also true. but i also think midgame/lategame even though he is not always right, he is incredibly valuable for all the analysis legwork he does. | ||
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On January 17 2014 08:31 Sn0_Man wrote: PS theres no way I'm agreeing to restrict the lynch candidates to me and you. If you actually manage to convince me you are town then thats literally agreeing to lynch a townie. That can't possibly be a good deal regardless of my alignment. 1v1 ME ARE YOU AFRAID? | ||
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On January 17 2014 10:06 thrawn2112 wrote: why is sn0 mafia, kush? Migs and skans cases are right . Especially migs point shot treating someone like they are town right after he said they might be Scum. That is how real Scum slips happen. How I realized it though is because he is acting totally differently from his town games. It's not in how many jokes he makes. It's his whole attitude that is different. Note that doesn't necessarily make him scum but it makes him being scum more likely. A lot of people adopt different attitudes as scum | ||
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k replace rayn with oats then cephilis oats koshi | ||
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These are the two people vayne wants to lynch: On January 17 2014 15:52 VayneAuthority wrote: Koshi could be scum, who knows until he actually posts stuff. Cephiro would be a shot in the dark, but one step closer to making the game at least difficult for scum either way. | ||
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On January 17 2014 16:03 VayneAuthority wrote: Honestly my reads don't matter this game, so it doesn't matter at all. why don't your reads matter? | ||
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I have seen him act "too scummy to be scum" as scum before. | ||
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Has he ever trolled a lot as town? I don't remember it. | ||
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On January 16 2014 10:01 Hopeless1der wrote: i'm catching up on AGDQ i missed out on. I'm just peachy. No wait banana-y hopeless claimed vt. I don't think he'd be dumb enough to do this as an actual vt. It's actually a deeply anti town thing to do in this setup. 2 scum perspective On January 16 2014 10:10 Hopeless1der wrote: considering he had the option to leave it alone and tell his scumbuddies they can't fakeclaim this explanation makes the most sense. He provides a scum perspective, which he thinks will look helpful in this context. 3 Restating other people's ideas A lot of his content has been elucidating other people's points to try to look helpful: On January 17 2014 01:01 Hopeless1der wrote: That is the basic idea behind what rayn is saying you did skanjab. And here you are maintaining that your case is legit and sn0 is totes scum for joking about lynching the host when there were basically no posts in thread. On January 17 2014 04:58 Hopeless1der wrote: Toad that catalogs point is very different. Marv and rayn were very specific in saying that Xata does something as scum that he DOESN'T do as town. There is no basis to make that comparison on sn0's behalf unless he has literally never made a wishywashy statement ever before (since he's never rolled scum before) On January 17 2014 07:11 Hope On January 17 2014 08:37 Hopeless1der wrote: right. rayn's argument is that kush does not have the ability to flip town. less1der wrote: no that statement says mig os scum or rayn is scum. with the corollary that sn0 is town if mig is scum On January 17 2014 08:37 Hopeless1der wrote: right. rayn's argument is that kush does not have the ability to flip town. 4 His voting is not consistent with his reads On January 17 2014 07:27 Hopeless1der wrote: because you cant read between the lines. also my reads are maleable. grack is scum. skan is probably scum. kush (who i havent really commented on) is unreadable to me so far. I wouldnt cry if he was lynched. This post that thrawn brought up already. He indicates 2 people who he believes are more likely to flip scum than me, including someone who IS scum. And he votes me shortly after without any indication that his read on me has changed. | ||
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Do you think he got VT then was like, oh let me just claim it for no reason? no. I think he did it because he thought it would make him look town. | ||
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On January 17 2014 17:49 Koshi wrote: Mig last scumgame in database: Are you seeing this shit? It is the exact same. 1 person is scummy for Mig. All consecutive posts about this guy. ##vote: Mig koshi this is weak. His approach is completely different in this game. That game was more of a nitpick that turned into a tunnel. Plus Mig has only been active for a very short period of time, so you can't expect him to have pushed a bunch of different people. Also he has mentioned other people he found scummy (cephiro and someone else). | ||
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Pretty much because he's been afk for a very long time, so he doesn't have that much to analyze. | ||
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On January 17 2014 19:45 Koshi wrote: I don't agree on Hopeless. meh. He radiates being insanely useless which is like Witchraft II. But my townread on you is 54327 times stronger than the read I have on Hopeless. Could sheep. KOSHI WTF. I can't see a townie ever thinking this way. It doesn't make sense. Just because someone is town that doesn't make all their reads right. | ||
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On January 17 2014 20:41 Koshi wrote: So what is your read on Mig? Be specific. Sure Kush. Sure. What does "sure kush sure" mean? Is what im saying not valid or are you joking or what? Also my read on mig is mostly null. Like I said he does not have a lot of content to analyze. Haven't read his filter but so what. Lots of people whose filters I haven't read. Anyway koshi is near 100% scum. Possibly even scummier than hopeless. Hopeless/koshi/x scumteam fo sho | ||
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On January 17 2014 20:59 Koshi wrote: It is you that has a quote as town in this thread that says "hey rayn who can I sheep because you are my townread". Now you say that no townie does that. context is totally different. | ||
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Message to hypothetical townrayn: if some doesn't address something to your satisfaction THAT DOES NOT MAKE THEM SCUM. ~~~ Here's where I tear about Koshi's scumcase on me (which was pure omgus out of no where BTW) On January 17 2014 21:08 Koshi wrote: 1) You started with bussing 1 teammate and pushing 1 townie in Grack/Snow just like in Intrigue with JAT/WoS. So what we have here is a d1 tripple connection theory which uses invalid meta as its premise. 2) rayn case 3) Here you have mig as scum, I make case on Mig. You call it a bad case and say Mig is null. HOWEVER, you have been agreeing with Mig his "tunnel" on Snow 24/7. 1 Why would I push in the same exact pattern that I just did in my last scumgame? 2 I wipe the head of my dick with rayn's case after i take a piss 3 That list had near zero thought behind it. That's why I made a shit ton of them, all different lolol. | ||
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also i get shit wrong all the time as town. I misremember and misrepresent things a lot as town because I don't read closely. RAYN read koshi plz | ||
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On January 17 2014 21:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Just play the fucking game and don't be an idiot if you are town. Stop lying and play the fucking game. so that is a no? I thought you liked deals bra. What am i lying about now btw? You have basically picked out things ive said that argued as not true, and you are calling them lies. "YOU SUCK AT D1" (excuse my ad hominem .i am making a point) that is an opinion not a lie. | ||
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*you are basically picking out things ive said that can be argued are not true, and you are calling those things lies. Mig and Turtlewhatever teh fuck his name AGREED with me about the apparent difference in sn0's attitude. Are they also lying? | ||
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What I said about sn0. I did not use the right words for describing how he is different. Mig's is much better. But his first several posts are all attacking WoS. Was what I said about all his posts attacking an exaggeration? yes | ||
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btw scum is koshi/hopeless/x(rayn,ceph,mig) | ||
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BTW if you are so sure why won't you agree to my sexy deal? | ||
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It's seriously no one fit to be my frenemy? First dumped by wos and now by rayn. On January 17 2014 22:35 Koshi wrote: Kush, what is your read on Skanjab? ---> How sure are you? +why is 1 out of Grack/Mig scum? Read on skanjab (sounds like some shit from Ikea) is leaning town. Good early case plus hard to explain feels. Keep in mind I have played with him more than anyone else in this game (oats has experience as well) Why is 1 out of mig/grack scum? Huh? I was not working under this assumption. | ||
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Is that something you think or I think or wtf is going on with that? | ||
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He is lynchbait as town almost every game. So it makes sense that he would be obliged to act somewhat scummy as scum. | ||
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On January 18 2014 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote: Kush have you read me at all this game? I picked up on that shit long ago. The issue is that I find it hard to really justify lynching him for it over bullshit like grack and Ceph. I just don't find it that conclusive. He looks scummy for it but not like "must be scum". I still feel like I'm going to learn more about hopeless's alignment than gracks or cephiros over the course of the next cycle. If enough people I trust are on hopeless I'd be willing to vote him, he's clearly pretty scummy, but I fail to see how just leaving grack and ceph alive helps town. Toad called for "vig shots" on them but come on, its a mini theres no way town has the KP to clear out the chaff like that. Gotta lynch the useless and then the rest become easy to judge by their contributions. Thats my take, at least on Day 1 lynches. yes i have. I used to think you were scum because i thought you were acting like a different person than your game. I have since changed that read pretty majorly. It was based on really weak meta. | ||
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On January 18 2014 01:57 Hopeless1der wrote: This post nullifies thrawn's case. I wouldn't even give Pandain a chance to do anything. I'm offering Grack a chance to not be a complete piece of shit. He neglects to answer and throws the ball back in my court. so your saying that bceause there is a slight difference in how you pushed your fakereads, that means you are town? | ||
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On January 18 2014 05:38 Toadesstern wrote: the fuck is that according to you. That is the cold hard truth/ | ||
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Hopeless His meta is in the middle of evolving to a much more active player. It makes sense that his scumgame would be a step up in terms of activity from his last one. | ||
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On January 18 2014 05:51 Hopeless1der wrote: because he doesnt give a shit. and I do. this is fairly elementary kush. Even for you this is sad. giving a shit does not determine your alignment though. I was to lynch scum not bad town. | ||
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On January 18 2014 06:41 Hopeless1der wrote: You were the dumb sack of shit who called me antitown for "claiming vt". Im a veteran. Sn0's perfect streak is on track to continue. something about how he's calling me a "dumb sack of shit" makes me think he's town | ||
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On January 18 2014 07:36 Sn0_Man wrote: Kush do you see what you are doing to this lynch? I have no idea why everybody is so convinced you are town. why does first line imply im town and second line implies im scum? | ||
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only problem is ive also townread grack. I dont know if someone outside hopeless/grack is possible atm. i coudl lynch ceph sn0 | ||
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On January 18 2014 13:22 Oatsmaster wrote: And seriously anyone calling for Kush's death is playing anti town. thanks oats but I dont need you to defend me. so back the fuck off me you scummer. | ||
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Rayn i wanna be your friend again! Who do you think is scum? I am very interested in your thoughts. | ||
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Hopeless had majority votes. I was leading the wagon, convincing people to get on hopeless. We convinced sn0 and toad, for instance. I then changed my mind about hopeless' alignment. I unvoted hopeless, which lead to thrawn, sn0, and toad all unvoting. | ||
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On January 18 2014 22:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: His case on Mig is decent, i just don't think he is right. But it makes sense, it's not a forced scum case by any means. hmm I need to think about it more but the case looks scummy to me. He find's a scummy sentence in like every post mig writes almost. It's just a series of nitpicks and townreads actually. I guess the saying you want to watch someone= scum argument is categorized as a lazy, false scumtell. heres the case | ||
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On January 18 2014 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: kushm4sta could you answer this please? I kind of gave an answer that referred to his TL game. It's hard to compare OMGUS games and TL games though, simply because the activity is much lower on omgus, and there is a lot more inactivity. So saying 1 paragraph each cycle is like an average activity level. | ||
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On January 17 2014 16:03 VayneAuthority wrote: Honestly my reads don't matter this game, so it doesn't matter at all. should this not effect my read of him or does it lean one way or the other? | ||
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On January 16 2014 09:50 Toadesstern wrote: if vayne is trying to make a mafia fakeclaim a role that doesn't exist, then yes, explaining that there are no self-aware millers is something that gets you retard-points. I'm not judging how pro town the plan toad suggests is, but the conception of that plan I think is much more likely to come from scum. | ||
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Mig Cephiro (VayneAuthority) (Skanjab1s) I will be surprised if i haven't solved the game right here. | ||
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On January 27 2014 10:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't get the fact that people join games and refuse to play. Like kush straight out lied on D1, he just lied. In the last game i had JUST proved him wrong on what he said, he was mafia, and i had a scumread on him for it. Why would he do that again? Like intentionally talk shit out of his ass? That's just dumb. There is a reason i never have such a problem with people like you, marv, Mig etc.. They play the game, regardless of their alignment, and not just post something without thinking at all. what are you even talking about lol... didn't lie still think you suck not a lie | ||
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