So last post from me, the PPS-part is probably a TL;DR:
I was fully aware I'm getting myself lynched. I considered it the only possible option left to not auto-lose this on d3 with two consecutive mislynches. Lynching me might be a misslynch and a very dark situation for town to be in but not lynching either me or rayn would have brought us 2 consecutive cycles of bullshit that I considered to be deff-lose for us, the RB was pretty convenient that way (well actually if there was no RB I would have just forced mafia to shoot me but whatever). Also the reason I have refrained from posting. So that's why. [-redacted- I guess I can say that I did ask Dandel about this]
Also I actually felt really bad for Mig in case he's town prior to deadline. I did read that because it was so short before deadline but I really had to force myself to not post, sorry
On top of that, yeah I was emotional and to put this into context I've never been as angry about anyone's play before as this and I've been in games like this:
On February 25 2012 12:15 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 12:14 Toadesstern wrote:On February 25 2012 12:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 25 2012 12:08 Toadesstern wrote:On February 25 2012 12:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On February 25 2012 11:56 Toadesstern wrote:On February 25 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
I feel you Toad; I said the exact same thing about VE earlier.
Generally though if someone is exhibiting both tells I just ignore them until I'm forced to deal with them. BH is nothing but scum and RoL is nothing but lurk so it's easy killings either way.
the sad part here is that I'm not getting out here alive no matter what's going to happen, because it's the very same situation we had in L d1 with Palmar.
If BH flips town and I keep my vote off him everyone is going to rant about me "how does that noob have a better read than a fantastillion of our best vets?"
If BH flips mafa and I keep my vote off him everyone is going to rant about me because I was "defending" him.
If BH flips town and I vote him everyone is going to rant about me "how does that noob have a better read than a fantastillion of our best vets?"
If BH flips mafia and I vote vote him everyone is going to rant about how I only voteswitched after I had to.
Sad story, isn't it?
However, I'm going to rethink this whole thing when I wake up tomorrow. Should be plenty of time. For now I'm sticking with RoL.
You seem to care an awful lot about how town perceives you
yeah because believe or not, I don't want to be lynched no matter if I rolled mafia or town. Because in both scenarios being lynched is not helping my team.
So what you're telling me is that you successfully figured out I'm not a VI? But that's of course wifom. I could totally be a VI trying to look pro-town to try and look like I don't want to be lynched. That would be so ingenious. Just imagine the faces of the people: "We're totally lynching that pro-town playing guy ololol" and the moment I flip VI they're all like W T F.
+ Show Spoiler +Just for clarification: Yes parts of this posts were sarcasm and are not meant to be taken seriously
+ Show Spoiler + if you think BH is scum then vote for him
if you're town you're the last person who would get lynched if he flipped town, the fact that you're worried enough about town perspective on your own guilt to vote based on that openly is highly suspicious
Tell that wbg. He tried to lynch me in L ALL GAME LONG for saying Palmar is town, BC as mayor lynched Palmar d1 and guess what? The guy flipped town. WBG went nuts on me for the reason I stated above and said there's no way I could have possibly get that read if people like him, Supersoft, Jackal (?) and BC all thought Palmar was mafia.
It's all based on a true story dude. I'm not even making this up, that's the sad part here.
stop crying Toad, you're German and your country decimated the Jews, you have no room for sob stories
User was temp banned for this post. and this:
I'm 100% postive, I'd rather play with people like the above than have another game with rayn if he so happens to flip town. I can't believe how furious he made me with constantly sprouting bullshit and constantly being an arrogant dick about it and just not changing it even after having to realize that he's just plain wrong about everything he's saying like the 100% certain lynch on kush, the almost 100% certain lynch on grack and the 100% certain lynch on me, who all flipped town. I just can't believe how someone would be such a dick about it and just not at least drop the insults after that and not just at least for a second go
mmmh, wait. Maybe my reads are off atm. I should probably restart this from point 0 instead of just continuing with my other reads like nothing happenedI don't mind if he's calling me a retard once or twice without anything besides it, obviously it's going to make me angry but whatever. But having it happen the entire game and like he said, there wasn't even a case about me no matter how I much I asked for them to just explain it so nothing I could respond to except for thrawns
"he feels weird" ... duh thanks... and rayns
"he disagree's with me on ska so he's a retard, he mafia". I guess that one post he did that ended up being a bunch of either lies or him forgetting what happened d1 that I replied to is an exception but it was ignored so nothing to be said there.
Obviously, if you're mafia or SK good play despite it being absolutely disgusting.
Btw the
exact same thing happened in another game, as I'm sure rayn is aware of, as he does like reading older games. Obviously I flipped town as well.
Btw I even said in pregame that I get emotional about games really quickly and I can't do much about it, heck that's the reason for the long pauses inbetween to cool down... I even got the dramaqueen award for it (and award for best play together with VE I might add, so you can fuck off rayn) for crying out loud.
So no matter what you make of that, please for the love of god don't just sheep the guy who thought kush is a 100% certain lynch to a point that he agreed to let himself get lynched afterwards, grack is an almost 100% certain lynch and I'm an 100% certain lynch. He's either mafia/SK or not to be trusted because he's having the most awful game you could imagine. And in both cases you don't want to trust him with his reads.
Not giving any reads out myself as I honestly haven't read anything ever since the claim to not get tempted to post, so I wouldn't know. So don't just continue like nothing happened, start over from 0 and consider who defended who during all this, there's bound to be information in that.
And again, sorry about this but I really think having it this way is still the better option than having rayn "tunnel" me all throughout d2 and d3 and either have someone sheep him and not even have a chance to lynch mafia, OR just not having a chance to lynch mafia because rayn's town while I'm still alive and it's certainly better than getting lynched without claiming or lynched and claiming 5 minutes prior to deadline. Hooray for getting lynched the 2nd time ever as town in 3 years of mafia and both happened exactly the same way \o/
Ps: I picked hopeless because he's either blue or anti-town and has no chance to be a miller. Kind of a combi solution. I considered other people but like I said, as long as I'm not getting miller I'm good with whatever it returns on n1 and can then decide what to do n2.
PPS: The phrase I probably use the most often in games of mafia is something along the lines of
"Sometimes people are just dense. Sometimes you have to lynch a green and shove their dead head into peoples faces to show them how dense they were to stop the ongoing bullshit. It's a sad story but let's lynch XXX [XXX being a green] and win this the next cycle". But I'm sure rayn knows that as well as he has thoroughly researched me. he's that kind of a guy. Sad thing it ended up being me this game. And while this seems like a lose for us it's at least not a 100% certain lose.
EPT
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