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On January 17 2014 21:58 kushm4sta wrote:
my case on oats was shit. It wasn't a lie.
What I said about sn0. I did not use the right words for describing how he is different. Mig's is much better. But his first several posts are all attacking WoS. Was what I said about all his posts attacking an exaggeration? yes
Yes he attacks WoS in EXACTLY SAME FUCKING WAY he did attack you in this game in the beginning. And you guys call him scum for it. Fucking terrible.
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And btw Mig is mafia too.
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kush there is nothing you can say because you were lying and it is clear. I don't give a fuck if you di that intentionally or non-intentionally but it does not change the fact you are lying.
Now go make a case on someone you think is mafia because this discussion is unproductive as there is no way you can prove me wrong.
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Hopeless case is bad because it's a misrepresentation of what he said.
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You are not allowed to make out-game deals in game.
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I can't stand playing with kushmasta. I really can't because the whole guy is full of shit.
From this point on i am ignoring him completely. Someone shoot him.
kushmasta is not a vanilla townie so he is either blue or scum. His posting is scum so he is most likely scum.
However his rule violation (which leads to dick move analysis) says he is town. So there scum -> shoot his blue role, he is not vanilla. He ignored Cephiro's post where Cephiro claims vanilla, if he had vanilla PM he would have read it and called Cephiro out as well like he did with Hopeless.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Mig
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Koshi in a scenario where the asshat is town who is scum?
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##Vote: Grackaroni
yeah this is the best lynch.
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tbh i still have zero clue what Mig is doing. He's apparently not trying to lynch Sno, he just... dropped it.. (wtf)
He is not trying to lynch Hopeless either, nor Grack... So Mig, what's going on man? There is not much time vefore phase change? Why did you completely dropped your Sn0 case?
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Then we have ~half of the game of uttely useless people in Hopeless who only sheeps, Grack who isn't doing shit and apparently does not wanna do anything, Cephiro who was playing voice mafia last night but didn't bother to post in the thread, Skanjabs who idk what he is doing, Oats who just calls some people scum and kush who is only making posts dumb as fuck.
Who is mafia? Impossible to tell, so let's lynch the troll who is at least capable of playing well as town but who has absolutely no desire to so in this game.
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And then there is Toad who only does selective meta-analysis and even then he does it wrong.
Toad go look at Vayne's past games. Then come back and tell what you think. You were so eager to do so with Sn0 and kush and both were horrible, you can probably do horrible one on Vayne too.
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And that's why i said half-arsed meta analysis. Because you give opinions based on people's past games and you do it terribly, like here:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 17 2014 11:02 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 10:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
Witchcraft 2. Sn0man was under suspicion the entire game. I skimmed his filter. I didn't see stuff that resembled posts like these: Show nested quote +On January 16 2014 09:39 Sn0_Man wrote:You know kush I'd accuse you of needing an easy target but thats really not how you play...  Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:10 Sn0_Man wrote:On January 17 2014 01:07 Skanjab1s wrote:Oh wow, rayn, you actually think I'm opting out of discussion? Really? On January 17 2014 01:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Ugh.. this is gonna be really hard to figure out because Skanjab1s made a terrible terrible case on yamato in Hogwarts aswell. As sad it is he could do this as town..  Making opening cases on people and then getting called scum for it is what I do, yo.On January 17 2014 01:03 Hopeless1der wrote:
Yes I was intentionally lying skan, see my followup post.
I find it hilarious you think rayn CANT get you lynched. Trololol He can't. I mean, he's welcome to try, but it wont work. This sounds a lot like "I intentionally made a worthless case cuz its my town meta and I gotta match that". Which sounds a lot like scum :/ Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 01:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well I was starting to think that you might have just been trying to get the thread moving and fishing for responses, which would be quite understandable, but instead it seems that you actually think I'm scum or something.
Jeeeeez. Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 03:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
Soooooo I'm scum because of Diction and because my reaction to scummy posts from skan is a "gross face".
Sigh, I was hoping for a productive day 1.
At least Mig is here and playing finally. I believe that means everybody has posted at least once. I really have a hard time picturing a townie post like the above. I see posts like this (picked because of red letters and they stand out): Show nested quote +On November 14 2013 01:23 Sn0_Man wrote:
His case amounts to "I can write Sn0's name in big red letters that guy must be scum.
Everything else is drivel.
"Oh Sn0 wanted to lynch Syl over vanesco" guess what syl is scum
"Oh Sn0 got Onegu lynched" yeah sure whatever floats your boat. I offered meta reference. Onegu played scummy. Hopeless deliberately misconstrues me and uses emotionally charged language in an attempt to squelch logic regarding why Onegu actually died.
"Sn0 figures the D1 NK may have been a silver bullet" obviously this is a clear scumtell thank you for pointing this out Hopeless no town would ever consider such a thing. Trying to figure out the game is how i play tyvm.
"Sn0 gave me shit when I replaced in" please excuse me for poking people in a mafia game to see how they react.
"Sn0 dropped his scumread on Syl day 4" well somebody didn't read day 4 at all
Hopeless also attempts to garner towncred in the middle of this for last-voting onto vanesco after he's already been hammered for a while without any chance of any other lynch.
And feels the need to jump on me messing up names (onegu instead of vanesco watever).
Ok thats his whole case boiled down and somewhat in order (excepting the first point). in WC2 instead. That's completly different. It's way later in the game, I'll give you that but it's nowhere close to being as apologetically as in his responses to Mig/Me/Kush. Can you give me a name of a game where we was mafia? I know I should be searching that stuff myself and there's a handy trick about it with clicking someone's profile but I never read old games and always forget how to search for that stuff...
Explain to me what is the point of those 2 posts when they are clearly no value as you just said?
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EBWOP: Apparently one of the quotes got lost:
+ Show Spoiler +On January 18 2014 01:07 Toadesstern wrote:so we have posts like + Show Spoiler [this from failgame] +On January 12 2014 00:44 kushm4sta wrote:jat, wos, maybe bh. So many people haven't said anything yet though. No idea if you are scummy marv, because you've done shit all in the thread. If you want a lazy policy lynch like captobv, there many posters with similarly little content. capt obv-tstbs I can't imagine a scum actually opening like capt obv, unless they were TRYING to look tooscummytobescum. And I don't think most people do that. oh wait i can see the future and i just know you are going to ask why for my scumreads... jat- the new site-wide scum meta is to defend kush, which he did immediately. he doesnt look super townie which he normally does Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 09:43 justanothertownie wrote:On January 11 2014 09:41 marvellosity wrote:On January 11 2014 09:33 justanothertownie wrote:On January 11 2014 09:10 Blazinghand wrote:
Make me mayor and I'll lynch kush d1.
/thread Why don't you wait and see how he plays first? What's with all the people deciding to policy lynch that early in the game without even considering the play of the person in question... Marv will you try to be elected? I'll run for mayor if/when I find a candidate I want to lynch or I think town is going full on dumbo. Keep in mind that the mayor has more power than deciding the Day1 lynch. cool story Whenever you find a quote you can say "cool story" to, the poster is probably scum. ~~~~~~~~ WoS keeps asking about things that townies don't even care about. He engages in endless policy discussion, never giving his opinion on anything other than he doens't know if BH is town. Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 15:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
DrH can I ask you specifically about your 'pressure hammer' strategy: how do you expect to deal with Suspect 'C' regarding pressuring them if they avoid you if they simply fuck off and don't return, rather than attempt to give you a defense and fail? Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 17:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
The only thing I'm curious about regarding BH is who he chose to PM, and why specifically those people. I don't really have much reason not to consider him town at the moment. Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 16:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I am actually interested in other people's thoughts on this matter: would it simply be enough to give the mayor role to someone who was theoretically confirmed town but may or may not use the role to great effect?
~~~~~~~ BH - anti connection with my other scumreads but his early push on me makes no sense, considering my uncanny scumminess in extractor. And I know scum BH likes to appear super active. which disagrees with the assumption that mafia Kush does not read filters. On the other hand we have posts like + Show Spoiler [this, also from failgame] +On January 11 2014 22:24 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 22:09 Aquanim wrote:On January 11 2014 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Agreed with Mocsta, suchdoge is the scummiest person in the thread. D'you reckon you can explain this to me? That long post of his looks like it was written pregame, and therefore doesn't tell me much regarding his alignment. He's also expressed a desire to talk with people (specifically VE) which isn't the most intuitive thing I'd expect a scum smurf to do.If he thinks that long post is sufficient contribution for the day I'll agree with you that he's likely scum - but I don't see any reason to believe yet that there won't be more material forthcoming from him. Is there anything else making you lean scum on him? Convince me. gdamn aquanim where have you been all my mafia life? that underline,bolded, and italicized line is pretty brilliant and true. Also @rayn how bad does scum have to be to make that post? pretty fucking bad. first scumgame bad. which kind of disagrees with rayn's assertion on kush. Doesn't really read like kush this game either. So I don't think you guys can read kush as good as you guys claim you're able to.
So why do you do this shit when you 5min later say you don't even do this stuff?
It's pretty clear these "analysis" are no value because you put zero effort on them, so what the fuck are they doing in the thread?
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So what's different in terms of the following statement: "Sn0 thinks D1 is quite useless and his primary goal is to not go all-in for scumhunting but instead to get rid of trash".
How does his posting in this game not work towards that goal when you compare it to WC II?
You can't just take a fucking post where he calls/doesn't call someone mafia nad say "look this is totally different than what he is doing in this game". That's not meta and you should know it.
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Oats is too angry because i don't even know why he is angry. See what i did there?
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So people just let go of Sn0 because me and thrawn disagreed with your meta-analysis?
Fucking terrific. Why are you not pushing Sn0 lynch any more? You had a case that was based on meta and scummy things. Scummy things didn't go away, meta-analysis is what you yourself did, someone disagreeing with it means you are either bullshitting because you just let of it for no reason or for some other reason you have come to a conclusion Sn0 is town.
What has Sn0 done now that makes you think he is town?
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What was the case about in the first place because apparently anyone pushing that lynch seems to not be thinking he is mafia nay more.
Why?
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On January 18 2014 03:19 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 03:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So people just let go of Sn0 because me and thrawn disagreed with your meta-analysis?
Fucking terrific. Why are you not pushing Sn0 lynch any more? You had a case that was based on meta and scummy things. Scummy things didn't go away, meta-analysis is what you yourself did, someone disagreeing with it means you are either bullshitting because you just let of it for no reason or for some other reason you have come to a conclusion Sn0 is town.
What has Sn0 done now that makes you think he is town? I still think he's mafia and you'd know that if you read my posts. I've been in an argument with hopeless about it. I let it go because I was the only one voting him when some people where on kush, some on hopeless and now everyone's on grack. I'm aiming for best play possible, not best play and I'm not getting sn0 lynched today, simply as that.
Okay so what do you think of other people who agreed with Sn0 being mafia nad let go of the case as soon as someone disagreed with it? Isn't that scummy to you because you think the dude is scum? Or do you just ignore it, why?
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Toad do you usually just sheep as town or build cases?
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