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On January 23 2014 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 00:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
Okay I don't get Cephiro at all.
Who claims SK 10 mins before Day Post?
He can't be SK because there's no way that helps him is there? I don't think he was at serious risk in that situation.
He can't be Town because his claim doesn't help town at all. Nobody is gonna counter claim him. It didn't come early enough to for example save mig if scum thought "free shot". It is however causing a ton of confusion in-thread.
It doesn't even make sense as scum to do that does it? I mean sure he fucks with the thread which is obviously a plus if he's scum but doesn't this make him pretty damn suspicious?
I dunno, I want to call it a scumclaim but it seems incredibly dumb from any perspective. It's actually possible that he is SK simply because for example scum could have shot bulletproof SK Ceph who shot Mig last night. However, that still doesn't explain why he claimed. We are not lynching Cephiro today, or if we are the town is going to lose because me and Cephiro are town and i am not voting for him. So stop this shit and tell who do you think is mafia.
Hey retard I had to work it through and I said I'd post my thoughts.
I didn't say "Vote Ceph" dumbass. I know you think he's town, although I don't agree with your reasoning. Regardless, there is some lag time between when you request something and when I see it and then when I can post.
Maf is still Skanjab and Oats. I'm not certain on the 3rd atm.
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Hmmm.
Koshi's done pretty near nothing all game. I could see him being scum with Oats. Don't see why we'd lynch him over Oats though honestly rayn, I don't see the associations you are making.
Skanjab is scum because he's literally doing the same shit Oats is (minus the huge shitfest with you). Make a bad case on an easy target (me), then make comments on how the game is played and provide unsubstantiated reads. Low-effort, low-content 1 liners that are the easiest shit in the world for scum to hide behind ALL GAME. Neither him nor Oats have every been properly up for lynch all game so they don't have to tip their hand at all. Koshi actually makes a lot of sense as their 3rd, considering how he's done pretty much the same thing now that I went and read him.
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Okay ur right associations wasn't the right way to put it. I don't agree with your plan to lynch Koshi or Vayne first though over Oats because OATS IS SCUM. Only one of vayne or koshi can even be scum as far as I'm concerned so lynching into them today seems bad.
PS this is giving me flashbacks to that game where we were at lylo 3 straight days and ended up with me/you/yam town losing to onegu because we fought amongst ourselves too much. You'd had a strong-ass town read all game on me and then it randomly disappeared at lylo for no goddamn reason. You know i'm town, lets just take it one scum at a time and start by lynching Oats.
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I explained why Skanjab is also scum.
I agree that Koshi scum fits, but I'm not nearly so certain about it. I read what you had to say but it wasn't convincing enough for me to vote Koshi on LYLO.
I have no idea where the read on vayne is coming from. Tthe only points I can see against him stem from Cephiro's insanity and then your meta read about his "last will" post which seemed pretty flimsy.
Whatever. It really looks like Oats and Skanjab are gonna push their last mislynch through on me and I'm finding it hard to care.
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On January 23 2014 02:01 Skanjab1s wrote:
I'm not even voting for you yet, Sn0.
... LOL you are scum and your scumteam's plan is so clearly to mislynch me today. How does your current state of voting 30 hours pre-lynch matter?
On January 23 2014 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
*you think you can't..
That's really scummy mindset Sn0.
Tell that to hopeless.
On January 23 2014 02:03 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 02:02 Skanjab1s wrote:
Vayne who do you think the scumteam is? games over, its ceph/rayn/sn0 they outed themselves with rayn's massive mistake if it isn't obvious. lynch all 3 in a row.
How do you have a scumread on me and rayn... o.o
r u the third scum?
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I mean, cephiro's actions make minimal sense from any alignment, and how you either of you can use that garbled pile of insanity to justify scumreads on each other is beyond me.
On January 23 2014 02:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
the only other scum team that makes sense to me atm would be oats/skanjab/sn0. so if you want to convince me of that go for it.
YEAH VAYNE THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE
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On January 23 2014 02:56 VayneAuthority wrote:
For some reason I went from scummy because not night killed to scummy by association with koshi and etc. people just piling on more bullshit as the thread continues. it's a joke and just as bad as making the unflipped assocations koshi is making so that is not a good tell when the case itself relies on such bullshit.
You are one of the people who keep coming up with bullshit impossible scumteams that "just so happen" to include me. Its pretty goddamn obvious at this point that the scumteam's plan is to push me as the last mislynch, and probably has been for a while.
At this point it's pretty clear to me that scum is 3/4 of (Vayne/Oats/Koshi/Skanjab) because Rayn's right, Ceph did that same bullshit in hogwarts and other games as town, and it makes NO SENSE AS SCUM. Rayn is just town, and TBH right now I can't see hopeless playing like that as scum anymore.
Still, I don't think ur right rayn. I think its Skan/Oats +1.
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On January 23 2014 03:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Umm i don't believe you are mafia because Cephiro says so.. I don't think Cephiro is necessarily right in saying you are mafia, but i understand how he has reached to the conclusion. That does not make him right.
Right now i am only confident in my Koshi read and i really want all of Oats/Skan/Sno/you to contribute. You are doing so atm, so it's cool.
- Oats never says anything relevant on fucking anything said in the game.
- Skan is just being meh.. like "what's the case on this guy?", then says nothing..
- Sn0 just rages to everyone who accuses him and then leaves the thread, sadly that's exactly what always gets him lynched as town so i am trying to be reasonable with him.. not sure how long until i just decide he is mafia.
Nobody has any reasons for accusing me though. Its the same as the day 1 shit. "Scum for flippancy, scum for serious". Now oats says "scum for sheep" followed shortly by "why didn't you sheep?". LIKE FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. He wants to lynch me because I got convinced to change my vote from my preferred lynch to another scumread, then changed it back eventually. Thats it.
Meanwhile as you mention Skan and Oats aren't playing, aren't contributing, are obviously scum, but you seem to give them infinite free passes for god knows what reason after oats has explicitly had flamewars with you, thrawn and toad (all almost certainly town at this point), shitting the fuck out of the thread because he wants to.
How can this possibly be hard?
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On January 23 2014 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actuall Sn0 has made some reasonable posts about Oats and Skan, my bad.
I really want to see what all of skan/Oats/Koshi have to say.
better...
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On January 23 2014 03:17 Koshi wrote:
I am never going to win vs rayn. Like never.
On January 23 2014 03:18 Koshi wrote:
gg wp
Is this a scumclaim?
I'm so confused. If you are town, and are explicitly pulling a toad... :LSKDHKL:SJBGLDFGSD
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Ooooor Skanjab is scum and since he still has nothing to contribute to the thread he's making excuses that make it easy for him to not contribute still.
Plus this way town will count on his vote staying there and then he can last-second vote swap if he needs to.
If we are worried about voting shenanigans I'm OK with getting 4 on somebody at this point to make that safer. I still prefer an Oats/Skanjab lynch but lemme go look at the votes real quick.
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Oh I see.
So we have 4 on koshi, but rayn is afraid that some could move onto vayne if vayne is town?
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On January 24 2014 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like, if we assume Skanjabs is town, everyone who is town MUST ABSOLUTELY vote together.
BAD ASSUMPTION ALERT
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"If we assume skan is town" is like the worst assumption possible. Especially considering what he just did. Maybe there are extenuating circumstances or maybe there aren't but what he just did makes this game way harder for town yeah?
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Assuming ceph is town which seems much safer to me, we 3 can get on oats now and I don't see a circumstance where scum can force through a mislynch...
Unless oats is somehow town but gimme a break. He dropped his scumread on me for no reason at LYLO because the lynch didn't gain traction. Then he just takes the safe vote and disappears again. Still no logic, still no contribution, no desire to solve the game at lylo for crying out loud.
Although I suppose we could do the same for koshi. Keep in mind that scum!oats can move off Koshi whenever to reduce his votes to 3 again, in the event that koshi is scum. I think it makes more sense to vote oats though, because I could see an Oats/Skanjab/Vayne scumteam where skanjab plans to last-second swap and oats just needed a safe place to rest his vote.
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Hmmm well I really hope the last scum is Koshi and not Vayne.
##Unvote
##Vote: Koshi
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On January 24 2014 02:30 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 01:45 Sn0_Man wrote:
Assuming ceph is town which seems much safer to me, we 3 can get on oats now and I don't see a circumstance where scum can force through a mislynch...
Unless oats is somehow town but gimme a break. He dropped his scumread on me for no reason at LYLO because the lynch didn't gain traction. Then he just takes the safe vote and disappears again. Still no logic, still no contribution, no desire to solve the game at lylo for crying out loud.
Although I suppose we could do the same for koshi. Keep in mind that scum!oats can move off Koshi whenever to reduce his votes to 3 again, in the event that koshi is scum. I think it makes more sense to vote oats though, because I could see an Oats/Skanjab/Vayne scumteam where skanjab plans to last-second swap and oats just needed a safe place to rest his vote. that scumteam makes little sense to begin with, not to mention I am pretty damn sure koshi is scum at this point. Toad fine, but koshi would not do this as town.
"that scumteam doesn't make sense" cuz ur on it rofl.
I'm not saying it is the scumteam, I'm just worried it could be. Grack and Toad both basically refused to play and got mislynched for it. I'd really like for that to not happen 3 times in a row.
Of course, having votes spread out all over the place when we only outnumber scum 5-3 is worse than a somewhat uncertain lynch.
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Isn't the game just solved now?
Oats/Skan scum. Seems pretty ironclad to me.
Skan and Oats are trying to get everybody emotional so that they can't think straight.
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Vayne stop being retarded theres no way I'm scum with skan. Oats is quite clearly his scumbuddy.
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I have never rolled scum in my life. Including this game, as you well know.
I really feel no desire to defile my pinky by connecting it to scum tho.
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