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On January 19 2014 10:33 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 10:22 Koshi wrote:Oh rofl. This post is from before the Night post.... Kinda ballsy to put the nightkills in 1 post though. Or maybe it is already damage control. On January 19 2014 08:00 Toadesstern wrote: because all I see is:
Rayn: mentioned me about 10 times, but never really gave any explanation other than me disagreeing with him? He called me and hopeless useless but probably town, which was the most indetail explanation from him about me and after that just oh yeah, he mafia
thrawn: says I'm mafia for something that's so townie that rayn insta-voted mig when he thought mig was doing the opposite
kush: seems to think I'm mafia because... idk? everyone is mafia according to kush
and that's really all I found so far. Good job, this'll be the 2nd time ever to be lynched as town for me in 3 years of mafia on TL. Usually people aren't so dense and I really thought I'm way to obvious about it, but whatever, rayn even thinks vayne is town for the reason he should be thinking I am town, or so I presume? so it was mafia night hit + mafia vig and not mafia+SK after all. Understood. Ohyeah, might be sk kill as well. Point is, why already say you will be misslynched before day starts?
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hmmm. Are you playing me?
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Who is scum? Your filter reveals nothing.
btw. Why did you not give reads before night?
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##unvote ##Vote: Mig
Better than Toad imo. Toad is being extremely sneaky or is just town.
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Or SK.
Therefore he didn't give reads because he knew he wasn't going to be shot. Or he even has vest. I will check how many times toad gives reads when town on the night deadline.
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If rayn is scum I am going to be really sad. Oo imho he isn't. It doesn't make any sense. It feels like town rayn to me and the 2 guys that are dead.
Toad, why did Kush and thrawn die?
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##unvote ##vote: Toadesstern
/agreed. This is just desperate.
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The question is. Is the claim true?
The way he talked about the miller thing early game makes me believe him. That's how I badly crumb my roles. imo we shouldn't lynch him because he should be shot this night? Not shot = 100% liar.
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Yeah that kinda looks bad...
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The only problem is that normally you do the scumhunting and then there is marv that nods and we lynch scum. This time there is no marv and Mig is awol and probably scum so I am scared.
What about Kush theory that Cephiro bussed Mig and that Mig is angry? Sounds so perfect.
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On January 20 2014 07:02 Mig wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 22:03 Koshi wrote: Or SK.
Therefore he didn't give reads because he knew he wasn't going to be shot. Or he even has vest. I will check how many times toad gives reads when town on the night deadline. Did you ever check this koshi? Toad is not the player I expected. :D Like his previous games are just mayhem. Some games he is constantly pushing somebody writing his name in different colors. Some games he lurks. Meh. Got nothing from there.
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But to answer the question. He is not the guy that makes lists and posts them.
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On January 20 2014 07:21 Mig wrote: koshi you said earlier that oats being aggressive/in your face does not make him town because he has done it as mafia. Do you have any examples of games where that is true? PYP LoL mafia
He survived till Day 7 because he had very active first couple of days.
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Mig, can you comment on the Cephiro case?
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I think I solved this game. Let me gather my thoughts. It just came to me.
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The easiest solution is just Toads scum. Mig/Cephiro with him.
Because I promised it, if you really want my theory here it is in short version: + Show Spoiler + It contained Toads as SK. Oats/Cephiro/Skanjab/Mig as scums.
Kush died by mafia. (Skanjab, + last post) Thrawn by Toads. (The entire theory by Toad is to misdirect mafia)
Then there is Mig/Oats/Cephiro and I can't decide which ones are scum.
Also I think that 7 town 3 scum 1 SK is quite insane. But the RB on mafia enforces SK theory. I was thinking maybe 2 mafia but that is close to impossible, a 2 man team is so low...
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I can call all of them scum but it is so based on association and because I have 4 scums it doesn't even make sense. On top of that there is an SK.....
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Also. Where is the Evil Snowman? It's "normal" that he is awol when it is weekend. But this is getting silly.
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Why not? Let's say scumteam is Mig/Cephiro/Skanjab. Kush knows Skanjab and had the theory around Mig/Cephiro bus.
He was a good shot.
Look at how Mig plays:
On January 20 2014 06:36 Mig wrote: Regardless, Toad is not the best lynch. Todays lynch. --> Toad is not best lynch but I don't give a better solution. I give you this though:
On January 20 2014 07:04 Mig wrote: 1) If vayne/toad are not mafia together then seems pretty likely that vayne is town. He had obviously considered the possibility of multiple parity cops. If he were mafia he would be thrilled with the possibility of a potential counter claim. It would probably end the game for town.
2) Rayn is like 99% town. So if we ignore toad/vayn. Probably should be ignoring hopeless just based on the fact that 0 blues have flipped and if town doesn't have any medics (I am assuming this unless they are retarded and didn't protect thrawn/kush. Guess it is possible they protected rayn). But anyway would make sense for town to have vets. Possible that hopeless could be sk and took the bp option still btw but useless to consider for now.
3) So what we have ceph/sno/skan/koshi/oats.
I am just going to be honest, I don't really know who is mafia. I looked back through skan's games and he doesn't have any as mafia so wasn't a lot of help.
Rayn are you confident koshi is town? I asked you this earlier and don't think you answered it. 1) VA is not scum because he is not on the same scumteam with the guy I think is town. what??? 2) Hopeless is town or SK with vest. Why not mafia that lies if he is possible SK? The reasoning that Hopeless is town is because of no blue flips, but if you trow that theory out of the window there is 0 reasons for Hopeless to be SK over mafia. 3) So 3 out of these 5 are mafia. Doesn't give any probability who it is but asks for the millionth time "is Koshi town?" After that still doesn't know who the 3 mafia are between 4 candidates. Like, you can't go wrong anymore, just pick one and vote him......
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Mig doesn't have 1 townread except rayn. 99% sure.
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