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On January 20 2014 04:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think we lynch skanjab at this point, he looks mad that toad had an out in a role while rayn is going more logically about debunking his claim and trying to figure stuff out. skanjab just gets mad and leaves.
##vote: skanjab
You want me to be happy that the cop just outed himself when he wasn't really going to even be lynched at all?
Riiight.
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He had two votes on him, and wasn't really being looked at by a bunch of people, it was unnecessary to claim.
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We should lynch Sn0, his few posts after we were all on his ass made me think he was kinda townie, but his late-lynch sheepiness is suspect, and the other reasons that I mentioned on d1 are valid.
##Unvote
##Vote: Sn0_Man
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I can promise you that I'm not mafia, and tell you that I've never lied about making that kind of promise as scum, and if you feel like being illogical you'd get to cross off a townie from your scumlist.
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On January 20 2014 07:07 Mig wrote:
Skan what happened to hopeless. You were more confident after the lynch that it made him mafia. What changed.
Toad says that he checked hopeless last night, and because he hasn't tried to lynch him, I assume that he got back a green check.
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Oh wait, there are only parity cops.
Well regardless, I'm fine with letting hopeless live for one more day on the off chance that Toad survives the night.
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Hey, how about we don't kill the un-counterclaimed cop, and instead let mafia waste an nk on him if you want him dead so badly. If he doesn't die at night then we can kill him tomorrow.
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On January 20 2014 08:58 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2014 08:54 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hey, how about we don't kill the un-counterclaimed cop, and instead let mafia waste an nk on him if you want him dead so badly. If he doesn't die at night then we can kill him tomorrow. why would mafia kill him if you announce that you will just lynch him if he doesnt die lmao
This, and if they roleblock him then their roleblock doesn't get used on a different townie, as opposed to this scenario, when he dies and they get to potentially roleblock another power.
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Whoops, I quoted the wrong one, I meant hopelesses response.
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Worst case scenario, he sinks the roleblock, and we lynch him tomorrow and someone else today. The end result of the worst possible scenario is one less scum power being used tonight.
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On January 20 2014 09:13 VayneAuthority wrote:
there's so much wrong with that I don't know where to begin. If you make the assumption he is mafia, there are many things that can happen.
they simply RB some one else, knowing the claim isn't real. He brings in a fake check tomorrow
They "RB" him
The claim is real and they RB him (the most normal scenario)
the claim is real and they RB some one else for WIFOM
etc. etc. I dont follow your logic basically because if mafia was that easy then no one would play this boring ass game.
Yeah. And in every one of those scenario's he dies, in two of them, he dies as scum, and in one of them we get a wasted RB, and in the other we get a free check.
There is nothing wrong with this. But whatevs, use it, dont use it.
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Yes! Anything to keep the claimed cop from surviving until night!
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On January 21 2014 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 00:30 Mig wrote:On January 21 2014 00:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no reason Toad should be town. He thinks i am mafia so he gives up as town cop when mafia accuses him of being mafia.. If that's the case he is playing against his wincon.
Thoughts on Oats, go. There is a chance that Toad changed his read on you from mafia to stupid townie and then was so frustrated he quit. This would not be the first time a townie has raged at you haha. My question is toad the type of guy who would get emotional and quit as mafia or is he the type of guy more likely to do it as town? This is something we need to be discussing. If there is a sk and he shoots town tonight and toad is town then the game is essentially over. And look at how dead the thread is. Nobody besides me even wants to talk about shit. I don't care. If Toad gave up as town he is a fucking idiot. Doesn't change the fact there is no reason to give up as town.
Him giving up as scum after he has just claimed cop and wasn't counterclaimed is much less likely in my opinion.
Add this to the fact that scum usually don't fakeclaim if they aren't even close to being lynched, with over 24 hours still left in the day. I think he's town.
Regardless of his alignment, best play is to not lynch him today anyway, even if he is scum. I've explained why.
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On January 21 2014 00:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
After reading that little hate-fest and claim I understand toad even less than yesterday but I'm having a hard time calling him a good lynch. What kind of mafia fake-claims with like 2 votes on them and 12 hours to lynch?
Right now Oats and Skanjab are looking scummiest, I'd like to lynch one of them.
I promise this isn't pure OMGUS, but all Oats has done this last day is flame and discredit the shit outta rayn without actually trying to find scum. Then he's like "Lynch Sn0" without reasons simply cuz I'm not here to defend myself. Zero scumhunting or effort, just aiming for an easy target he can safely back off of once I'm back.
Hey, what are your reasons for thinking I'm scum?
Because this does sound like pure OMGUS.(net)
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I've fucking explained why, maybe you should try read the damn thread.
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On January 21 2014 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, if he is mafia there is not a single reason to not lynch him.
rayn confirmed for not reading the thread
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On January 21 2014 00:48 Sn0_Man wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 00:40 Skanjab1s wrote:On January 21 2014 00:38 Sn0_Man wrote:
After reading that little hate-fest and claim I understand toad even less than yesterday but I'm having a hard time calling him a good lynch. What kind of mafia fake-claims with like 2 votes on them and 12 hours to lynch?
Right now Oats and Skanjab are looking scummiest, I'd like to lynch one of them.
I promise this isn't pure OMGUS, but all Oats has done this last day is flame and discredit the shit outta rayn without actually trying to find scum. Then he's like "Lynch Sn0" without reasons simply cuz I'm not here to defend myself. Zero scumhunting or effort, just aiming for an easy target he can safely back off of once I'm back. Hey, what are your reasons for thinking I'm scum? Because this does sound like pure OMGUS.(net) Because every time you pop in the thread its to be blendy and point out some irrelevancy without actually scumhunting. Who is scum Skanjab? Oh right, its me the safe vote that your scumbuddy oats has already put on the table. Why? "Sheepiness pre vote" give me a break. If you want to accuse me, at least try to make a case. I wanted CONSOLIDATION in the lynch. Something that scum couldn't just pull whatever way they wanted. Meanwhile the rest of your posts range from Show nested quote +On January 20 2014 07:07 Skanjab1s wrote:
I can promise you that I'm not mafia, and tell you that I've never lied about making that kind of promise as scum, and if you feel like being illogical you'd get to cross off a townie from your scumlist. to Show nested quote +On January 20 2014 01:16 Skanjab1s wrote:
If you guys could stop shipping me with whoever you think is scum, that'd be great.
Rayn, could you summarize why Toad is scum please? Remember that I have no idea about his meta, so the "him being dumb" point doesn't help much. So helpful in catching scum. Clearly that is your primary desire. PS why did you drop your hopeless read? You were so certain he was scum post grack's flip. What changed? None of that comes from town.
(1) I have made a case
(2) Your sheepyness and willingness to absolve yourself from responsibility of the town lynch by just copying thread sentiment is scummy. I will not give you a break.
(3) You quoted a post where I am trying to improve my read on both rayn and Toad, and am trying to get more involved in the game, and then acted as if I was doing nothing in it.
(4) I've already answered the hopeless question. Repeating people's questions to look townie isn't a very good strategy, dear.
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On January 21 2014 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2014 00:49 Skanjab1s wrote:On January 21 2014 00:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No, if he is mafia there is not a single reason to not lynch him. rayn confirmed for not reading the thread So you believe there is a chance that he is town, but if he does not get roleblocked or die the next night he is mafia. What do you suggest we do if on D3 Toad comes in and says "i checked X and him and Hopeless are different"?
Nevermind, I just thought properly about this. I was going to say "lynch the scummiest of the two (probably hopeless) and then the other if he flips town". But if Toad was mafia then by the time we get through lynching all of them the game would be over, I forgot that there are so little town left. I concede this point, I was wrong.
I still, however, don't think Toad is mafia.
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I hope(less) you have a big appetite!
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