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On January 17 2014 11:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey thrawn, does this dumb meta argument mean anything for the alignment of the people that supported it? Namely, skan, toad, mig, kush?
all I know about skan is that he hails from omgus so i'd say probably not
kush, eh. maybe? meta cases + confirmation bias go hand in hand and that's what I think kush is doing. after all he solved the game
mig, i'm still refusing to talk about until I see more of his posts
toad? idk. probably but idk.
the problem is that sn0man posts scummy shit as town (in WC2 I remember thinking how bad it was that he kept throwing in "iunno, but" before his reads) so I can't exactly hold it against anyone for calling him mafia. it';s not like i'm looking at his play in this game and thinking "oh wow all these posts are so townie" ... it's that I've successfully read him as lynchbait in the past and I have the same gut read on him now as I did then.
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ok it's like i cant put my finger on it but it is hella different
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vayne I hard defend my townreads a lot as town.
hint = (sn0man in WC2)
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I think it is suspicious in the way that you are doing it tho. You aren't really advocating or directing the lynch away from sn0_man, merely pushing against his lynch.
That is more or less my quip, going against the grain hard with no solution
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you dont think sno is scum, vayne?
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On January 17 2014 11:36 kushm4sta wrote:
you dont think sno is scum, vayne?
reserved for now, I can't answer that yet
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On January 17 2014 11:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think it is suspicious in the way that you are doing it tho. You aren't really advocating or directing the lynch away from sn0_man, merely pushing against his lynch.
That is more or less my quip, going against the grain hard with no solution
kush+sn0, two people i'm town reading, seem to be the top lynch candidates. I can't just ignore that. not pushing my own lynch is just a failure on my part. i have tried though... i've voted grack, oats attacked me for it and i tried to get him to comment on my grack post. all he said was "grack isn't scum for the reasons he gave for voting koshi." i guess that's a failure on my part too because I should know by now that I can't expect Oats to cooperate
also i've stated this repeatedly, some of my reads are subject to change based on future posts from others. obviously i can't explain that until it happens. really vayne, you yourself are doing the exact same thing (not showing all your cards) so i expect some understanding. if D1 goes by and I ended up not trying to push a lynch then we can resume this conversation
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On January 17 2014 11:44 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 11:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think it is suspicious in the way that you are doing it tho. You aren't really advocating or directing the lynch away from sn0_man, merely pushing against his lynch.
That is more or less my quip, going against the grain hard with no solution kush+sn0, two people i'm town reading, seem to be the top lynch candidates. I can't just ignore that. not pushing my own lynch is just a failure on my part. i have tried though... i've voted grack, oats attacked me for it and i tried to get him to comment on my grack post. all he said was "grack isn't scum for the reasons he gave for voting koshi." i guess that's a failure on my part too because I should know by now that I can't expect Oats to cooperate also i've stated this repeatedly, some of my reads are subject to change based on future posts from others. obviously i can't explain that until it happens. really vayne, you yourself are doing the exact same thing (not showing all your cards) so i expect some understanding. if D1 goes by and I ended up not trying to push a lynch then we can resume this conversation
yea I feel you but the thread isn't progressing in a way that I like, I don't have nearly enough reads so I need to do my own pressure I guess
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On January 17 2014 11:44 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 11:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think it is suspicious in the way that you are doing it tho. You aren't really advocating or directing the lynch away from sn0_man, merely pushing against his lynch.
That is more or less my quip, going against the grain hard with no solution kush+sn0, two people i'm town reading, seem to be the top lynch candidates. I can't just ignore that. not pushing my own lynch is just a failure on my part. i have tried though... i've voted grack, oats attacked me for it and i tried to get him to comment on my grack post. all he said was "grack isn't scum for the reasons he gave for voting koshi." i guess that's a failure on my part too because I should know by now that I can't expect Oats to cooperate also i've stated this repeatedly, some of my reads are subject to change based on future posts from others. obviously i can't explain that until it happens. really vayne, you yourself are doing the exact same thing (not showing all your cards) so i expect some understanding. if D1 goes by and I ended up not trying to push a lynch then we can resume this conversation
your grack post is 'this is bullshit, grack is scum'.
I dont share the same opinion.
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On January 17 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 11:44 thrawn2112 wrote:On January 17 2014 11:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think it is suspicious in the way that you are doing it tho. You aren't really advocating or directing the lynch away from sn0_man, merely pushing against his lynch.
That is more or less my quip, going against the grain hard with no solution kush+sn0, two people i'm town reading, seem to be the top lynch candidates. I can't just ignore that. not pushing my own lynch is just a failure on my part. i have tried though... i've voted grack, oats attacked me for it and i tried to get him to comment on my grack post. all he said was "grack isn't scum for the reasons he gave for voting koshi." i guess that's a failure on my part too because I should know by now that I can't expect Oats to cooperate also i've stated this repeatedly, some of my reads are subject to change based on future posts from others. obviously i can't explain that until it happens. really vayne, you yourself are doing the exact same thing (not showing all your cards) so i expect some understanding. if D1 goes by and I ended up not trying to push a lynch then we can resume this conversation your grack post is 'this is bullshit, grack is scum'. I dont share the same opinion.
my vote on grack is because he hasn't made one productive post and is adhering to his mafia tactics of deflecting accusations with trolling
On January 17 2014 07:26 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2014 07:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
Erm Grack...
Now that you are back, care to do anything whatsoever? I have been doing stuff actually. I spent hours in the scum QT with Skanjab1s planning out our night kills. I'm afraid Kush isn't long for this world.
completely legitimate point by sn0man, grack entered the thread saying "you guys misreading toad" which is pretty useless in terms of finding scum and showing us his alginment. so grack needs to do stuff, as sn0man said. but instead he gives a troll answer and votes for koshi for reasons I still can't fathom, then slips away unnoticed
from time to die
On November 19 2013 17:26 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case what's really funny, what really gets my goat more than anything else is that people are like finding weird explanations for why Grack can troll and be town or whatever and then when he's serious they take him serious and when people question him he trolls and everyone thinks it's okay. People who thought he was scum just suddenly stop thinking he's scum because in his own Grack-ey way he's so loveable. This is exactly why this style of scum play is so effective. The fact that people are like "yeah that's just grack trolling or whatever dont' worry let's lynch BH" is in fact a piece of supporting evidence in my case on Grack.
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When it comes down to it, Grack has done almost nothing today that merits the townreads or at least "let's lynch him later" reads that he's earned from people. People say my case on Grack is bad because he's an "easy target" but let's be 100% real here, that's pretty much the same as saying my case on Grack is bad because Grack is probably scum. Like "easy target" = "scummy". In fact, the majority of my case on Grack has to do with the fact that he's not an easy target, that when you reach out to grasp him he slips through your fingers like smoke and vanishes like a whisper on the wind, as quickly gone as an idle daydream but as firmly remembered as a summer's romance.
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nah he has legit reasons for voting koshi, his reason was a joke.
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Man thrawn if you werent so wishy washy I would be inclined to fofllow you but as it is, you have hopped around A LOT for the first 24 hours or so.
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On January 17 2014 12:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man thrawn if you werent so wishy washy I would be inclined to fofllow you but as it is, you have hopped around A LOT for the first 24 hours or so.
I have similar thoughts about following myself
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yeah i dont know about lynching sno
##unvote
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On January 17 2014 07:04 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys are misreading what Toad writes.
this is the most productive and pro-town thing he's posted all game
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Grack, you better come in and do shit.
Hmm, a thing I feel that makes him town, is that he was as inactive when he was the leading candidate for lynch, and is still inactive when now he is like 3rd-4th choice for lynch. So its not like he is scum and just defending himself and goes away when the pressure goes off.
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not doing anything isn't a good reason to vote grack, the trolling thing is.
If we want to lynch for usefulness, there's a guy that starts with C that we should lynch
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On January 17 2014 12:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
not doing anything isn't a good reason to vote grack, the trolling thing is.
If we want to lynch for usefulness, there's a guy that starts with C that we should lynch
sadly I don't think that conversation can go anywhere other than "yes! lets lynch him if he continues not being useful"
to be fair though this is kinda what I expect from him. he didn't do anything at all during WC2 (that fucking game again) and came in this big unhelpful "lets no lynch" and then went back to being afk.
dunno what to say other than sure, i'll consider lynching him.
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lynch vayne because he's a slimy mofo who refuses to give reads on people?
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On January 17 2014 12:21 kushm4sta wrote:
lynch vayne because he's a slimy mofo who refuses to give reads on people?
I'm not slimy im smooth.
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