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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 19:42 GMT
#3072
Well, I doubt mtamburini will be missed. I have a hard time believing he would act so suicidally as scum though. We'll see soon.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 19:52 GMT
#3085
On the off-chance that I die: I'm not a VT, but my power isn't so crucial that it should be worried about if it's gone (I think). Tbh it's kind of a weird power and I'm not sure what I'm even hoping to achieve with it.

Valenius, kush and jampidampi could be good lynch candidates. Valenius for general apathy and disinterest in scumhunting. kush for casually lurking and not having much of an active role in the game. I was mistaken about some of jampidampi's filter earlier, but he's still not doing much and appears weirdly forced/angry whenever he posts. Not a good sign.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 19:56 GMT
#3088
On May 24 2014 04:53 austinmcc wrote:
Xat, do you put zero faith in the power of the toilet read?


Haha I don't really think that's much of a tell. I mean, I have read the thread in toilet as scum before.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#3095
So Koshi was a 3rd party?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:01 GMT
#3096
Somewhat weird kills....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:02 GMT
#3099
HF, didn't you shoot mtamburini?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:03 GMT
#3100
I guess the kills were targeted at blues / other factions or something.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:04 GMT
#3103
On May 22 2014 00:52 Valenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.

This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.

My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand

The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.

I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.

The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..

Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.

Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.

Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons?


Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour.

Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit.

Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all.


Hmmm.... I must admit that there's something to the "toilet read". This comment feels somehow genuine. Dunno.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:09 GMT
#3112
kush is pretty blatant about his lack of interest in doing productive stuff. There are some reads in his filter however. I'm not completely sure about him atm. Could well be scum.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:11 GMT
#3114
Steveling, was it wise to reveal that you're a Vet?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:12 GMT
#3117
Btw I think it's better if I don't say anything more about my power yet.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:13 GMT
#3120
On May 24 2014 05:11 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Mercury is the element of water, and therefore encompasses water and ice. Mercury is symbiotic with Jupiter, neutral toward Venus, and in conflict with Mars.


Hmm, sounds like factions could possibly be allied/rivals of other factions based on this description from the wiki.


So it would be like this?

Town
Scum
Mercury
Jupiter
Mars

or something
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:39 GMT
#3172
On May 24 2014 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi died? That is unbelievably annoying


You're also Mercury I guess?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:40 GMT
#3174
On May 24 2014 05:17 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 05:13 Xatalos wrote:
On May 24 2014 05:11 kitaman27 wrote:
Mercury is the element of water, and therefore encompasses water and ice. Mercury is symbiotic with Jupiter, neutral toward Venus, and in conflict with Mars.


Hmm, sounds like factions could possibly be allied/rivals of other factions based on this description from the wiki.


So it would be like this?

Town
Scum
Mercury
Jupiter
Mars

or something


I would think:

Town
Venus
Mercury
Jupiter
Mars





If it's like that, then some of the other factions may be hostile towards each others, some may be neutral, allied etc...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:42 GMT
#3179
Slam, it's pretty ridiculous to lynch Steveling after he's been probably the most active/engaged poster and just recently claimed blue.........
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:45 GMT
#3188
On May 24 2014 05:42 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 05:40 Xatalos wrote:
On May 24 2014 05:17 kitaman27 wrote:
On May 24 2014 05:13 Xatalos wrote:
On May 24 2014 05:11 kitaman27 wrote:
Mercury is the element of water, and therefore encompasses water and ice. Mercury is symbiotic with Jupiter, neutral toward Venus, and in conflict with Mars.


Hmm, sounds like factions could possibly be allied/rivals of other factions based on this description from the wiki.


So it would be like this?

Town
Scum
Mercury
Jupiter
Mars

or something


I would think:

Town
Venus
Mercury
Jupiter
Mars





If it's like that, then some of the other factions may be hostile towards each others, some may be neutral, allied etc...


I think ShiaoPi would rather go for a like 2+2+2+2 setup, right? so that would be 8 scum vs 24 town. if scum have 4 kp, worst case scenario for town is

D1: 24-2-2-2-2, mislynch, 4 shots
D2: 19-2-2-2-2 mislynch, 4 shots
D3: 14-2-2-2-2 LYLO? since presumably you'd need to lynch both scum to stop a scumteam's kp. Of course, there will be scum shooting at each other etc also happening which will help, but I think I could see the setup with 4x2 scum being balanced


That seems plausible. It also means that it would be best if we got rid of the remaining Mercury (or Mercuries) to reduce KP?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:48 GMT
#3197
On May 24 2014 05:45 Cavalinho wrote:
Mercury is water.
Venus is earth.
Mars is fire.
Jupiter is wind.

Koshi's faction didn't kill anyone, so it was likely that the hit was blocked, either by medics, veterans, or other opposing roleblockers.

The Venus faction killed Koshi.
Mars killed bk.
Jupiter killed Meapak.

There was no flavor concerning if the adepts/town killed anyone. Either we don't have vigs, they got roleblocked, or they didn't shoot for whatever reason. Doesn't matter now, because scum already knows if they roleblocked the right people or not.

So why did those kills make sense to scum?


Hmm... Could it be that the Mercury faction is neutral and doesn't have KP? (since Koshi's name was black instead of red)

Or maybe their KP went to Steveling.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:51 GMT
#3202
It'd really help if we could see Koshi's actual role (win conditions and stuff).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 20:53 GMT
#3206
On May 24 2014 05:51 Steveling wrote:
I don't like how BH was the first to clearly speak about the setting after all these kills happened.
Seems like he's one of them djinnis.

But then why did he claimed isaac?
But then why is scummy slam sheeping him?

It all rests in the isaac role and I'm willing to take the risk of unveiling a good town role too early than him being scum surviving until late game abusing his semi-claim.


If BH is still alive at LYLO and hasn't produced something good with his role, I think it's safe to lynch him. It'd be stupid to force him to fully roleclaim right now.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 23 2014 21:33 GMT
#3267
Use townies as bullets? How does that work?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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