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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 18:20 GMT
#3623
On May 25 2014 03:09 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2014 20:50 Xatalos wrote:
Foolishness is probably most likely town out of the veteran players.
Given that the other hydra was town and seemed to believe he should be trusted, as well as the bit from elderly peruvian man about how one head was likely sand (and iirc, some analysis of a specific wording that pointed towards americas or maybe sand in brazil), do you think that in a 5 faction game, a Foolishness hydra and a Sandroba hydra both go townside for balance?


I think the roles are given out randomly and not based on player skill?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 18:44 GMT
#3635
On May 25 2014 03:25 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2014 03:20 Xatalos wrote:
On May 25 2014 03:09 austinmcc wrote:
On May 24 2014 20:50 Xatalos wrote:
Foolishness is probably most likely town out of the veteran players.
Given that the other hydra was town and seemed to believe he should be trusted, as well as the bit from elderly peruvian man about how one head was likely sand (and iirc, some analysis of a specific wording that pointed towards americas or maybe sand in brazil), do you think that in a 5 faction game, a Foolishness hydra and a Sandroba hydra both go townside for balance?


I think the roles are given out randomly and not based on player skill?
Normally there's some consideration for balance. I would not expect a possible Sandroba, Foolishness, and the elderly heterosexual peruvian to be of one faction.

I think a little less strongly that both hydras wouldn't be one alignment. Town hydras strong, town hydras with strong players super strong.

The only issue with this game is the closed setup, so it would be possible that things are balanced around town having strong PLAYERS. But the game would have to be designed BEFORE it was posted, so you wouldn't know who would sign up or hydra, and I don't think you'd balance in light of that. You'd already be set.


There was that PYP game about half a year ago though where all the experienced players were town and the scumteam just lurked to their death. Dunno. I think it's usually random.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 18:51 GMT
#3637
Dunno, but I think it's somewhat stupid to accuse one veteran player by "process of elimination among the veteran players"?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 19:21 GMT
#3646
I think Foolishness is pretty townish for focusing on reading players and scumhunting. I think Ver said something along the lines of Foolishness focusing on reads as town and more on general stuff as scum.

I'm not sure if you're correct here, austin. I read it as Foolishness saying that kush doesn't really care too much generally, but in this game he *does* care (enough to complain about stuff) yet he spends his energy on something as unproductive while he could do something useful instead.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 19:31 GMT
#3651
Hmmm
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 19:32 GMT
#3653
I think austin is most likely town here for being so adamant about this at least.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 19:34 GMT
#3654
Yeah....... I don't think anyone would expect kush to lead the town.... But it's more about the fact that he's not participating by giving reads and stuff like town kush should be doing.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 19:42 GMT
#3657
I think it's more about kush not *generally* helping rather than kush somehow magically stopping people from doing some specific thing. kush complains about something - while not doing anything helpful himself - hypocrisy?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 19:59 GMT
#3663
Just saying that I go out of my way to avoid connecting myself with any of my teammates as scum I either bus, semi-bus or at least distance myself with everyone in my team. So if you think I'm "connected" with Foolishness, you're totally wrong. There's no way I could be scum with him.

And I still don't think that Foolishness's case is bad/scummy. But I'll let him defend himself, I can't be completely sure what he was thinking on that specific point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 20:00 GMT
#3664
##Summon: Foolishness
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 20:19 GMT
#3677
On May 25 2014 05:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2014 05:34 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
sorry for not voting, super face palm moment, thought deadline was at 3pm pst...


this guy.

this guy is mafia or he sucks severely.

kush's efforts put this guy to shame. And when that's the case you know something's not right.


ROFL. That's seriously so bad as either town or scum. He would be the optimal Vig target IMO. Too bad I don't have a gun.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 20:24 GMT
#3682
I don't particularly mind a wagon on him. Maybe he'll show up to do something.

##Unvote
##Vote: MysteryMeat1
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 20:35 GMT
#3684
Yeah, I'm totally serious too.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 20:37 GMT
#3687
If he doesn't show up with anything good, he can die for all I care.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 20:51 GMT
#3689
austin doesn't "get it".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 21:51 GMT
#3693
Policy is the best.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 22:06 GMT
#3696
You can't resist the policy. It will be your doom.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 24 2014 22:31 GMT
#3701
On May 25 2014 07:25 Blazinghand wrote:
technically RNG is policy BTW


Now you finally convinced me that RNG is a good method for lynching.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 10:47 GMT
#4004
austinmcc: There are some things that I'd like to know before I decide if I want to lynch you or not.

1) You were in Koshi's faction?
2) Did you "recruit" anyone yet?
3) What does "recruiting" actually do? Does the target become non-town?
4) What's the specific flavor on "recruiting" someone? Is it something like "being controlled by a Djinn"?
5) If so, I have reason to believe that this state of being controlled is temporary. That's why I have difficulty believing that it works like you said. If you make your target share your QT and stuff, won't he just reveal everything if he goes back to normal?
6) Do you have KP?
7) If so, who did you shoot last night?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 25 2014 10:48 GMT
#4005
Also LOL @ Slam for becoming so townish after being "shot". I think this makes him town for almost certain.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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