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No. This is literally what you do: "rayn and Holyflare are scum" (when one mafia has flipped) I point out your bad logic. "oh, rayn i scum, artanis so town, holyflare maybe scum" then artanis dies "oh rayn is town, holyflre town" then someone makes some bullshit arguments, i call them out of it "oh but rayn is scum"
That's so bullshit. so so very bullshit there is no way you are town.
ggnore.
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like i don't even care to argue with you because your löogic for your reads can't possible come from a townie and everyone who reads your filter can see it.
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It should be self-evident to everyone you are mafia when your top town read (who calls your top scumread mafia) flips your top scumread suddenly becomes your townread.
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Let's see how you respond to that one.
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You have me as your scumread. Artanis has me as his scumread. Artanis gets killed. I am suddenly your townread.
There is no logic.
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On January 14 2014 06:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2014 06:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: You have me as your scumread. Artanis has me as his scumread. Artanis gets killed. I am suddenly your townread.
There is no logic. That wasn't why I said you were town. I said I was willing to make an assumption based on the veterancy of HF and yourself and your certain reads of each other but the way you've both played today has called into question the safeness of that assumption from my perspective. If there's a shortcut I can make use of I'd like to use it. If that reads scum then w/e There is no reason to change your read from N1 when nothing has changed besides Artanis dying. Stop squirming scum.
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You are avoiding the issue.
You read me scum. Artanis read me scum. Artanis flipped. This, to you, if you are town, should point me being scum MORE. You read me town.
Again, there is no logic. Nothing else happened between.
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No, GGTeMpLaR is mafia nad we should end the game.
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On January 12 2014 12:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I'm going off my reads elaborated in the previous pages which currently point to Rayn as the likely scum and Artanis as likely town.
On January 13 2014 09:09 Corazon wrote: Artanis [Xp], as a VT, ate radioactive Scooby Snax and died!
It is now Day 2. With 5 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch. I'm working on finding a replacement for Derrida.
On January 13 2014 10:26 GGTeMpLaR wrote: At this point, I'm going to have to say it's between Derrida or Giggle. They both had pretty crappy reasons for voting on Mocsta, who had practically buried himself. In fact, I don't even think Derrida gave a reason, he just hammered the vote and claimed confirmed town for doing it. Meanwhile, Giggle simply claimed it was a policy lynch. I liked a lot of what Giggle contributed on D1 so that just leaves Derrida.
scumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscum.
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How can mafia be tunneled?
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I have given perfect reasons why you are mafia. You have given none reasons why i am mafia. Me calling you mafia is not a reason why i am mafia.
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So lay out every reason why i am mafia and why my behavior comes more likely from mafia perspective than from town perspective and i demolish them.
go!
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On January 14 2014 06:51 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I haven't once called you scum for reading me as scum (even though you haven't even said why you think I am scum).
I have posted the same case three times. Who is not reading?
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On January 14 2014 06:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote: So with Rayn/HF both tunneling on me, I don't care if they're veterans or not. (1)Their judgment obviously isn't good enough to clear each other as confirmed town based on the fact of how bad their read is on me, especially when they aren't even trying to address my arguments.
(2)Also, Rayn is acting as mad as someone who just had their partner get lynched who voted themselves D1. (3)This is the second time he's lost his temper (the first when I voted him over Mocsta) and acted bm-as-fuck responding with ad hominem to people's arguments and completely ignoring them.
Then again, HF ignored all of my arguments as well after I asked him to back up some of his baseless accusations. (4)I'm honestly fine with voting either of them at this point because I'd rather lose to lurker mafia than bm mafia who isn't even playing the game. (5)And even if they're town, they're bad town. I don't want to go to final 3 with either of them because they will throw if they play like they did today.
##Vote Rayn
I don't care if that makes me look scummy for flip flopping - in light of new information, my reads will change. Aside from the point about Office Space, Giggle just made the only townie post since the day started. Even if he's wrong about me, at least he's giving unique reasons for his reads.
1. OMGUS 2. I get mad over stupidity as town. Not alignment indicative 3. See (2) 4. You don't even call me scum, you don't even care who is lynched between me and HF. 5. Implies you don't even think me/HF is scum, you just don't want us alive.
What was your case again?
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You are not even calling me scum!!!
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No, in that post, where you vote for me, you give absolutely no reasons why i am mafia. There are none. nada. zero.
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On January 14 2014 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote:You want some reasons even though you've given none on why I'm scum? 1. First actual post with reads Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have read. ##Vote: GGTeMpLaR
Derrida is a pretty pretty town. Holyflare most likely town for realising it. You sheep HF's read on Derrida that didn't even have any reasons behind it to begin with. You then vote on me for no reason aside from going hard on someone you've cleared as town without any reason. 2. Next actual real post with any reads - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440222¤tpage=11#203You pocket HF by giving a biased argument centered around me and everyone else being responsible for shitting up the thread, and say HF isn't responsible when the first two pages of his filter are spam. HF hasn't even given a read on the game at this point (aside from saying Derrida is confirmed town), yet you know he's town. How's that scum? Your reasons are bullshit. You can't call me mafia for something i have done at the start of D1, when you have townread me at the start of D2!!
You are making shit up.
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If you thought i was mafia because of that you had called me mafia on D1.
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I have answered that post and it was all about "rayn is mafia because Mocsta is town".
Can we stop this bullshit already?
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On January 12 2014 07:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Between Rayn and Mocsta, I'm honestly more suspicious of Rayn than Mocsta at the moment mainly for these reasons-
-Rayn so quickly read Derrida as town (like he had perfect information and was looking for an easy pocket) and went hard onto me for disagreeing when I felt there were excellent reasons to read him as scum -It very much felt like Rayn's reads on Artanis (saying he was trolling and not playing the game - which was incorrect) was extremely inconsistent with his reads of HF -This point is speculation but it honestly feels like Rayn pressuring Giggle over his policy-vote is setting himself up to go hard on Giggle tomorrow when Mocsta flips green (which is another reason you should never policy-lynch someone you think is town Giggle) -And lastly, I've grown less sure of HF and I'm actually thinking that they both pocketed the shit out of me, especially with the Backho BW reference and Scooby Doo stories (which I actually thought were hilarious even though I misread HF's "clue searching encouragement" initially)
So this is where I'm at
##Vote Rayn Liar. Die scum die!
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