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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 08:27 GMT
#406
On January 11 2014 17:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote:
##Vote: Mocsta


What was the scum slip in his post you mentioned before?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 08:35 GMT
#409
I don't think that's a scum slip but it does show that he isn't reading/caring and he just so happens to be most likely scum at the same time :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 08:56 GMT
#411
So who are you thinking is scum #2?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 09:23 GMT
#414
yeh that one post really crowded out this super active thread....
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 16:36 GMT
#430
Wtf are you guys doing? The votes reached 4 on mocsta and it quite clearly states it takes 4 to lynch and when that happens you stop talking until the post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 16:38 GMT
#432
Oh he didn't unvote. Yeh, anyway, if he was town that wouldn't happen.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 16:46 GMT
#433
Still going to self vote?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 16:53 GMT
#434
On January 11 2014 22:32 Derrida wrote:
Anyway I think Mocsta is town because this selfvote coincides with this post in the other mafia game. He just wants to get out of this game and focus on that one.


You don't know his alignment in this game you don't know his alignment in that game. So why does he want to play in that game more? He's playing equally bad in that game too.

Also if he wants to self vote out of this one isn't that also indicative of a caught scum that wants to end the day quicker so we get no information?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 16:56 GMT
#435
That is also an INCREDIBLY suspicious thing to say right before you thought he was going to flip.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 17:23 GMT
#438
How is self hammering a green indicative thing to do in any instant majority lynch????? Has everyone gone crazy?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 17:28 GMT
#441
He quite clearly means it as a policy but I'm interested to hear him elaborate why he thinks mocsta will flip green
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 18:21 GMT
#451
On January 12 2014 02:30 Giggletummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote:
So Giggletummy you are voting for a guy you think is town. Why is that?
I like fun games more than won games. If I have to lose some games or put myself in a worse position in order to discourage certain behavior that makes the game less fun for everyone (screw everyone, I'm killing myself because I cba to do anything), I will. With a smile on my face. Do it enough and perhaps people will knock it off.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
How is self hammering a green indicative thing to do in any instant majority lynch????? Has everyone gone crazy?
Townies get frustrated and do stupid things. There are more townies, they feel expendable, they feel like they don't want to play the game. There are only two scum. They are not expendable. They feel very scared, because if either of them dies, the other guy is all alone. He's not a scum team anymore, he's a shipwreck survivor clinging to a floating log and trying to survive in the ocean. I'd expect self hammering to come from town based on that.


He has quite clearly mentioned that he does not give a shit what happens this game.

The conclusive proof that he is scum is that he has 2 scum reads, a team that he has constructed of Rayn and me. The votes that were on him were me, Rayn and Artanis. That is 2 of his scum reads voting him so why would he choose to self vote in that situation instead of hammer on with his rhetoric of how me and rayn are scum and it should be obvious from this vote? I'll tell you why. It's because he knows that he is all but dead and wants to leave this game sooner rather than later.

You are valuing his care for his team mate way more than you should. How about analysing what I've actually been saying instead of using the wifomy martyr as your basis for a town read?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 19:40 GMT
#460
we just need +1 on this wagon
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 20:58 GMT
#463
On January 12 2014 05:19 Derrida wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 03:35 Giggletummy wrote:
I would argue, and have argued, that a town player is more likely to not want to play than a scum player. So I do think it points more towards town than scum. You may disagree, and do.

I recognize that I am likely overvaluing that argument, but I do stand by it.


Completely agree. This bandwagon on Mocsta is starting to feel increasingly scummy.


You are actually both wrong. A town player most likely does not want to participate LATER on in the game. A towny on day 1 who has both of his scum team accusations on his wagon does not EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER self hammer. This is beyond ridiculous that you can think like this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 21:32 GMT
#466
On January 12 2014 06:23 Giggletummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 05:58 Holyflare wrote:
On January 12 2014 05:19 Derrida wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:35 Giggletummy wrote:
I would argue, and have argued, that a town player is more likely to not want to play than a scum player. So I do think it points more towards town than scum. You may disagree, and do.

I recognize that I am likely overvaluing that argument, but I do stand by it.


Completely agree. This bandwagon on Mocsta is starting to feel increasingly scummy.


You are actually both wrong. A town player most likely does not want to participate LATER on in the game. A towny on day 1 who has both of his scum team accusations on his wagon does not EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER self hammer. This is beyond ridiculous that you can think like this.
There are 5 townies. There are 2 scum. Anyone who just frankly doesn't want to play a game of mafia is more likely to be town than mafia. Barring certain players with a reputation for hating playing scum, which I don't believe mocsta has, in any game a person who just gives up is more likely town.

I think they both exhibit different behavior as well. A scum player who does not want to play can just lurk. He's not helping his team, but at the very least he's not hurting it, and he 100% doesn't have to do jack. Town players may exhibit more frustration, fight getting lynched, give up, whatever. Personal opinion on this bit.


You just practically gave reasons WHY mocsta is scum. Let's look at the facts.

1) Start of game trolling
2) Wagon starts on Derrida who has 8 posts
3) Mocsta joins wagon to make it L-1 and tells us we should actively discuss before we L-2 and L-1, doesn't really discuss (says about misreading votes... yeh sure)
4) Leaves vote on Derrida whilst others unvote and discuss - does not participate in discussion, instead trolls that he is confirmed town after I say it. Why does he retort with a troll when I say that I'm giving Derrida confirmed town status? It's because it's 1 less player for me to target later in the game and he can't target that guy anymore.
5) REMAINS A LURKER AND POSTS NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE
6) Only returns when accused of being scum only to accuse the 2 active people.
7) Addresses his original scum read (derrida) as a towny and tries to convince him that I am wrong
8) Responds with the worst posts ever when called out
9) Self votes and afk's when he is in fact not dead

THERE IS LITERALLY NO REASON TO DEFEND HIM
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 23:25 GMT
#480
That's 4 votes you should NOT BE TALKING
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 23:52 GMT
#486
On January 12 2014 08:48 Corazon wrote:
Night 1



Mocsta was sitting in the back of the mystery machine, wondering how he could gain Holyflare's favor. All of a sudden, an idea came to him.

"I know, I'll bribe him with Scooby Snax! He'll love those!"

Unfortunately, they were Really Small, so small that Holyflare was not impressed with Mocsta, and proceeded to send Scooby's twin brother, Scary, to eat Mocsta. That didn't go so well for Mocsta.

Mocsta, as a Mafia Goon, has been lynched!

It is now night 1. Please send me your night actions. The night will last between 6-24 hours, with a 2 hour warning before the start of the day.


I think i love you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 23:53 GMT
#487
Nobody is "confirmed" town for lynching him, especially when he was a town reand to you.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 11 2014 23:58 GMT
#489
Uhhh.....?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 12 2014 00:11 GMT
#497
Never seen so much reluctance to vote a scum from town on a scum wagon before
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