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On January 10 2014 18:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 17:57 Holyflare wrote:On January 10 2014 17:55 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
That might work for you but from my perspective the probability is flipped.
Either Mocsta or Artanis bussed him (unlikely) or he's scum with any of You/Giggle/Rayn. You can retrieve scum reads from 8 posts of a filter? I'm am quite seriously impressed. You seem to KNOW that the guy is scum despite me linking an ACTUAL scum game of his from his last newbie game that looks nothing like this one so far. Two of the posts, especially the one we're discussing right now read very scummy to me. I'm still waiting for his actual response. Right now he is the strongest scum-tell I have. I haven't actually read through the filter of the last game and compared it to the filter from this one yet. I'm not sure how valuable it will prove with such a low sample size and the fact that people are likely to change their play from game to game, especially during their first few games, so even if it is a different style I'm not willing to clear him based on that fact alone.
Are you claiming scum or something? You just admit to having not read his previous game and so haven't actually looked at his posting style at all yet still try and state an informed opinion on this game. These are VASTLY different styles and there are only 8 posts. So why did you feel the need to add votes to him in an IML game with 7 people before he could even respond based off only 8 posts do you have extra information that we don't?
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IML is instant majority lynch (which this game is). When a person reaches a majority that person is INSTANTLY LYNCHED. Thus it is extremely dangerous to leave your votes on people if you do not have full information on them yet.
On January 10 2014 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare who's Giggletummy's scumbuddy?
Mocsta soft-bussing? Seems good to you?
Mocsta seems very buddy buddy with giggle, weirdly so. A lot of people were around (yes a lot of it was scooby related at the time) but he took his time out from trolling to only address Giggle posts. I like to think Mocsta has a longing crush on giggle too, evidence can be found:
On January 10 2014 09:56 Mocsta wrote:
But you aren't the medic.
*goes off to cry in a corner*
@Giggly/WoS
Where'd ya go?
He only addresses people that he knows (me and artanis etc) with heuristics from voice games (yes, elements of trolling etc etc) but doesn't attempt to involve us in discussion either in favour of discussion with giggle (who I've just proven to be... not so towny looking).
I don't like mocsta's vote either (was it L-1 or L-2??) he gets frustrated in voice games when people start voting so fast and he should know not to do it in a forum game without discussion especially as there is ample time to discuss. His case was also very lackluster.
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I can see a team of Giggle/Mocsta/Templar (obviously eliminating one) although judged on exp of mafia games (I don't think i've seen templar play?) he looks more tunelled than anything else and also seems confused about the implications of the setup whereas Mocsta definitely knows better. At an early stage such as now a Giggle/Mocsta team is looking mighty plausible.
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 17:36 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 16:39 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 10 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]) *growls* A) Try the front gate DUH!
*wags tail* Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH!
Scrappy and Yabba walk up the front gate. ![[image loading]](http://2012a2group1.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/jessie-j.png) A single crow sits atop the cast iron gate. The gate is very slightly ajar but even going near it gives you the creeps. Yikes! You just KNOW something bad will happen if you walk through that gate, the entrance to a haunted mansion can't be free from ghouls and ghosts, surely!? You have a choice which you must now reach between the BOTH of you. Do you: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. B) Back off and inspect the gate further. Maybe you missed something. C) FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Decision reached: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS.
Scrappy and Shaggy edge up to the ominous looking gate with the crow sitting on top.
Shaggy: I got a real bad feeling about this Scrappy. Scrappy: PUPPPYYYYYYY POWERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! Scrappy charges into the gate headfirst! It swings open and the crow flies away. It turns it's head in the distance and Shaggy swears he see's the eyes of a human staring right back at him.
Shaggy: Don't... no! Don't go. Come on, Scrappy Doo, don't do this. Please, don't go. Scrappy: Ghosts don't stand a chance with me! Let me at em!!! Let me at em!!! --------Scrappy and Shaggy walk through the gate only to end up on the same side they started on----------
Shaggy: Like, what's going on Scrappy? I could have sworn we were just here. *Scrappy tries again and again* Scrappy: I don't get it Shaggy, every time I go through the gate I end up back here again!
Shaggy: Like, let's get out of here! *Shaggy and Scrappy turn around only to see the same gate now in front of them once again* Shaggy: Mary Jane isn't really helping right now! Scrappy:Who is she Shaggy?
Shaggy: Just a timeless friend. How do we get out of here??? *Scrappy eyes some words on the gate bars* Scrappy: It says: Show nested quote +If an exit is what you require, then solve this riddle and obtain your desire!
"There is an ancient invention still used in some parts of the world today that allows people to see through walls.
What is it?"
A correct answer from either of you will be acceptable. Shaggy, OH SHAGGY! I KNOW IT! IT'S A HAMMER, RIGHT RIGHT? *Scrappy runs through the gate and ends up right where he was before* *Sadness spreads across his face* Shaggy: You know, I think I just might have got it! A window! *Shaggy walks through the gate and actually ends up INSIDE the mansion's grounds. Scrappy follows disheartendly* Shaggy: I definitely preferred being on the other side of that gate!
What do you do now? A) Text the others the password to the gate and wait for them to arrive. B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. C) Both (reduction in clue searching ability!)
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On January 10 2014 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Team [S]crappy[S]haggy will do the following:
B) Explore the compound briefly for clues.
Shaggy and Scrappy proceed further into the grounds only to realise they have no actual idea where they have ended up.
Shaggy: We appear to be lost. I knew I shoulda just waited for the guys!
Scrappy: No problem Shaggy. I can get us out of here! If I knew where here was.....
Scrappy and Shaggy look around and to their dismay it is hedges as far as their eyes can see. It appears they have stumbled into a maze!!
Complete this maze (in paint or whatevs) and post back here with the finished result!
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On January 10 2014 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Artanis. I think i get what ziziyo is saying about his original suspicion on you and to me it seems like a tiwnie thought process which is really hard to emulate as mafia.
Artanis is a dog at the moment and his vote on Derrida was kinda shit too because he didn't justify it and it was a +1. Meh. They can't all be scum ~_~ I can switch artanis for giggle or mocsta to be honest. It's early and there isn't enough for me to go on properly until I can talk to them or they actually participate in finding scooby and velma T_T!
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I think it should be "totally random"
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god damn it just right click if it says [image loading] and view image and then spam refresh a couple of times
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On January 10 2014 19:22 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 12:56 Derrida wrote:
I am town you noobs, unvote me. Currently 5 am here just woke up because my cat is horny and meowing her ass off, do not, I repeat do not lynch me and I will try to provide some good reads intfhe morning. Official Callout. The morning has passed and I'm still waiting for this to come to fruition.
I'm sure your words are reaching him.
In another note, that is a totally useless post, what did you hope to achieve?
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 18:54 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 17:36 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 16:39 Holyflare wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 10 2014 08:14 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 08:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 10 2014 08:03 Holyflare wrote:
Scrappy Doo (Artanis[XP]) *growls* A) Try the front gate DUH!
*wags tail* Team 2: Shaggy (raynpelikoneet) and Scrappy (Artanis[XP]) have decided to try the front gate. DUH!
Scrappy and Yabba walk up the front gate. A single crow sits atop the cast iron gate. The gate is very slightly ajar but even going near it gives you the creeps. Yikes! You just KNOW something bad will happen if you walk through that gate, the entrance to a haunted mansion can't be free from ghouls and ghosts, surely!? You have a choice which you must now reach between the BOTH of you. Do you: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS. B) Back off and inspect the gate further. Maybe you missed something. C) FLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! Decision reached: A) Try the gate anyway. DESPITE THE BAD VIBES AND FEELINGS.
Scrappy and Shaggy edge up to the ominous looking gate with the crow sitting on top.
Shaggy: I got a real bad feeling about this Scrappy. Scrappy: PUPPPYYYYYYY POWERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!! Scrappy charges into the gate headfirst! It swings open and the crow flies away. It turns it's head in the distance and Shaggy swears he see's the eyes of a human staring right back at him.
Shaggy: Don't... no! Don't go. Come on, Scrappy Doo, don't do this. Please, don't go. Scrappy: Ghosts don't stand a chance with me! Let me at em!!! Let me at em!!! --------Scrappy and Shaggy walk through the gate only to end up on the same side they started on----------
Shaggy: Like, what's going on Scrappy? I could have sworn we were just here. *Scrappy tries again and again* Scrappy: I don't get it Shaggy, every time I go through the gate I end up back here again!
Shaggy: Like, let's get out of here! *Shaggy and Scrappy turn around only to see the same gate now in front of them once again* Shaggy: Mary Jane isn't really helping right now! Scrappy:Who is she Shaggy?
Shaggy: Just a timeless friend. How do we get out of here??? *Scrappy eyes some words on the gate bars* Scrappy: It says: Show nested quote +If an exit is what you require, then solve this riddle and obtain your desire!
"There is an ancient invention still used in some parts of the world today that allows people to see through walls.
What is it?"
A correct answer from either of you will be acceptable. Shaggy, OH SHAGGY! I KNOW IT! IT'S A HAMMER, RIGHT RIGHT? *Scrappy runs through the gate and ends up right where he was before* *Sadness spreads across his face* Shaggy: You know, I think I just might have got it! A window! *Shaggy walks through the gate and actually ends up INSIDE the mansion's grounds. Scrappy follows disheartendly* Shaggy: I definitely preferred being on the other side of that gate!
What do you do now? A) Text the others the password to the gate and wait for them to arrive. B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. C) Both (reduction in clue searching ability!) Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 17:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Team [S]crappy[S]haggy will do the following:
B) Explore the compound briefly for clues. Shaggy and Scrappy proceed further into the grounds only to realise they have no actual idea where they have ended up. Shaggy: We appear to be lost. I knew I shoulda just waited for the guys! Scrappy: No problem Shaggy. I can get us out of here! If I knew where here was..... Scrappy and Shaggy look around and to their dismay it is hedges as far as their eyes can see. It appears they have stumbled into a maze!!
Complete this maze (in paint or whatevs) and post back here with the finished result!
Shaggy and Scrappy reach the end of the maze! You found Scooby Doo's collar!!!!
Scrappy: Oh boy! Oh boy! It's Scooby's collar!
Shaggy: SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB!
*A note is attached to the ring on the collar*
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*Shaggy texts the gang and then both Shaggy and Scrappy return to the gate for the others*
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Why is everyone assuming that scooby doo is ANTI-town? It helps me figure out alignments, it has generated A LOT of discussion over it for analysis and you can all have fun in the process! That is the most pro town thing that can be done. You also quite clearly have not read this game up to date if you think it has wasted any time at all, coupled with the fact that you think I haven't been participating my previous read on you is rapidly dwindling.
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On January 10 2014 20:58 Derrida wrote:
Good reply.
Read the game before you make a case.
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On January 10 2014 21:06 Derrida wrote:Please share the alignments you have figured out so far with the help of your scheme. Who are the two scums according to your analysis? EVEN IF you are townie, a game that helps only one person to figure out alignments does not benefit the town at all. As an inexperienced mafia player it has only clogged the game for me. Anyway, previously you stated you have a townie++++ read on me, yet reply to Mocsta's calling me out by What the hell is this supposed to mean?
Mocsta "officially called you out" rofl. What benefit does typing that post have on the game in any way? Does it make you arrive at the thread any quicker? No. Does it propose new ideas on why he thinks you are scum? No. Does it solve the rest of the game if you are scum? No.
It was a totally useless post that filled time and had no net benefit to posting it - something scum typically do.
Also, If you don't know who I am calling scum THEN YOU HAVE NOT READ THE GAME. I have 4 pages of filter and all you have to do is click on it and find out that really, the last 2 pages of my filter have been almost all analysis on trying to solve the game. So to return to the thread with your half-assed accusation on me with blatant disregard to the entirety of what's gone on in your absence really REALLY makes me reconsider my read on you.
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I know you're new and are learning the ropes but a connection theory between 2 unflipped players is generally regarded as really bad in the community as you are basing your entire read on unknown information. So when you come back saying that I am your scum read so there has to be a scum who take takes the opposite stance to me is verging on the crazy. You can't possibly know that UNLESS 1 of the scum is actually taking a stance against me and you are using that information for your attack on me.
I would be gathering A LOT more information from people playing scooby doo if they actually played along instead of criticising it. I have already gained much information based on responses though so it has most definitely had a net benefit.
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I consistently play with half of the people in this game so when I say something is off about a player many of the people can also spot that and so I do not need to elaborate. You are misconstruing what I mean by buddying because you aren't trying to make these connections yourself. I have quite clearly analysed when i say a player acts differently towards one player than all the rest and yes buddying on that micro scale is a very common subconscious trait for scum to do.
You are also ignoring a lot of what has been going on. If I am scum, why does templar then become scum too? You state that the person that is most against scooby doo is most likely scum but that was not templar as he /in'd to the game. That would be giggle and thus I must be bussing which is also retarded in this setup. When you misquote my actual analysis to make it look worse you are only looking worse yourself when people reread the game
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Why are you misconstruing everything I say as association? I found what you were doing early game (posting multiple questions and free town reads while trolling even though you disliked fluff) to be something that I see as not towny. Mocsta's posts are just plain scummy. There is no association at all. If he buddies you it could be because you are town or mafia, I did not draw any conclusions from that at all as the basis of my reads are from your individual play.
The fact you are bringing this up and investing so much of your time into discrediting me rather than scum hunting is cute though. Derrida is clearly a worse candidate for association cases but there really isn't much mention of him at all from you recently. Derrida almost got lynched today but you haven't been asking him questions or addressing that situation at all.
Do you not want to solve the game?
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On January 11 2014 02:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Derrida is not obviously town
Any town who says so is a clown
My suspects I have told
On Giggletummy and Mocsta I am not sold
Your posts contain unnaturally high amounts of fluff
For you to be town, it is tough
Interest in continuing this conduct, I am not
You are scum, you have been caught.
Why have you imposed a self restricting posting style which adds nothing to helping us determine what you are? Talking in verse is obviously not helpful to us and you are accusing rayn who is arguably doing the most at the moment. Why are you not discussing anything else with anyone? You're playing your own game of "J'accuse!" but not actually participating in a game of mafia.
Please explain to me your distaste of both Giggletummy and Mocsta.
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Rayn has 4 pages of filter and the majority of it is not spam. He imposes a "pretty dragon" rule (WHERE WAS MY CREDIT FOR THIS YOU BITCH) to try and force people to give a read on someone when the counter reaches 5. That is PRO TOWN becuase it forces people to actually participate in the god damn game, which seemingly at the moment nobody is keen to do.
On January 11 2014 03:36 Giggletummy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well my associations are that 2 of you/Mocsta/Artanis are scum because other people are town.
dealwithit.
none of you three is making better posts than two other and you all fail to give your reads on the other two. ![[image loading]](http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/243/561/afc.gif)
On January 11 2014 03:39 Giggletummy wrote:
The game is already solved. We just need to convince cora to let us see the solution.
Next, rayn follows a thought process of "eliminate town people and find scum", this is when his next dragon enters the field (the speak about 3 random reads thing), he eliminated town reads down to his 3 scum reads and tried to make them talk about each other to further narrow down the suspects. Yet, surprisingly, those 3 provide VERY VERY lackluster responses about the other 2.
Mocsta's reply:
On January 10 2014 19:33 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2014 19:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You can still talk about WoS and Scraptanis no? Yeah I could, but there is no point having active fronts open with 3/4 of the game. FYI, I have already engaged in dialogue with WoS/GigglyTummy and am waiting a response. /BBL
(already seen giggletummy pretty much ignore it too)
artanis' reply:
On January 11 2014 01:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2014 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So are you going to give your reads on Giggletummy *lays down* *lays down* *wags tail*
all 3 of these people provide the shittest responses anyone could ever imagine to rayn trying to solve the game, artanis even goes so far as to ACCUSE rayn of doing nothing???? When nobody wants to participate in fucking finding scum of course it limits our options. Yet, not, his vote is on the person who is displaying towny thought processes and is playing the game rather than elaborate on Mocsta/Giggletummy.
Scum is definitely within these 3.
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