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raynpelikoneet
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: scumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscumscum. I understand why you think I have no reasons for flipping now. You literally are ignoring them. That's a pretty good mafia strategy - just ignore peoples reasons and then call them scum for not giving any. such amaze | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: How can mafia be tunneled? Easy. Just look at what you've done today. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
Me calling you mafia is not a reason why i am mafia. | ||
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Rayn is going to make 15 posts calling this bad. He should not.No you are ignoring my logic. I hadn't ever considered you as a lone scum at that point because of the surety of HF's townread on you. I considered you might be with him, but when Mocsta flips red, you being with HF ceases to be possible. I actually think it would be much more mafia of me to bring up the night death and who their scumread is. "Hey guys, the guy who scumread Rayn died last night. He's probably scum" That's literally the easiest read to make in the history of ever. How does it read townie for someone to point that out? It's more an observation than anything as it's blatantly obvious to everyone who died and what their reads were already. I follow the reasoning behind it but my reads were based on other things less obvious. Anyone of any alignment should make that argument. If you're town, you want rayn lynched, and pointing out that the townie who died overnight wanted to lynch rayn helps you lynch rayn. Good for town GG. If you're mafia, you want a mislynch, and you'll grab whatever a townie would to help you mislynch. Good for scum GG. Easyness has nothing to do with it. If rayn accidentally claims scum in thread, it's easy to lynch him, and still correct. Obvious arguments are obvious because most players think they point towards a conclusion. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
I haven't once called you scum for reading me as scum (even though you haven't even said why you think I am scum). If you would like to be reminded how town plays this game, see Giggle's post. Those are logical reasons a town might read someone as mafia. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
go! | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:51 GGTeMpLaR wrote: I haven't once called you scum for reading me as scum (even though you haven't even said why you think I am scum). I have posted the same case three times. Who is not reading? | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: So lay out every reason why i am mafia and why my behavior comes more likely from mafia perspective than from town perspective and i demolish them. go! I've yet to see anything like this from you since D2 started and it was pretty scarce even on D1. You can't just give bullshit accusations without reasons and ask everyone to repeat their reasons again and again. How about you go back and reread my filter. The reasons I think you're scum are all there. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have posted the same case three times. Who is not reading? I've refuted that same case three times. Clearly you aren't for ignoring my responses. | ||
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Giggletummy
Pitcairn200 Posts
Giving aquanim a couple hours to show up and post just on the off chance we're in danger of some massive throw. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On January 14 2014 06:15 GGTeMpLaR wrote: So with Rayn/HF both tunneling on me, I don't care if they're veterans or not. (1)Their judgment obviously isn't good enough to clear each other as confirmed town based on the fact of how bad their read is on me, especially when they aren't even trying to address my arguments. (2)Also, Rayn is acting as mad as someone who just had their partner get lynched who voted themselves D1. (3)This is the second time he's lost his temper (the first when I voted him over Mocsta) and acted bm-as-fuck responding with ad hominem to people's arguments and completely ignoring them. Then again, HF ignored all of my arguments as well after I asked him to back up some of his baseless accusations. (4)I'm honestly fine with voting either of them at this point because I'd rather lose to lurker mafia than bm mafia who isn't even playing the game. (5)And even if they're town, they're bad town. I don't want to go to final 3 with either of them because they will throw if they play like they did today. ##Vote Rayn I don't care if that makes me look scummy for flip flopping - in light of new information, my reads will change. Aside from the point about Office Space, Giggle just made the only townie post since the day started. Even if he's wrong about me, at least he's giving unique reasons for his reads. 1. OMGUS 2. I get mad over stupidity as town. Not alignment indicative 3. See (2) 4. You don't even call me scum, you don't even care who is lynched between me and HF. 5. Implies you don't even think me/HF is scum, you just don't want us alive. What was your case again? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On January 14 2014 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: 1. OMGUS 2. I get mad over stupidity as town. Not alignment indicative 3. See (2) 4. You don't even call me scum, you don't even care who is lynched between me and HF. 5. Implies you don't even think me/HF is scum, you just don't want us alive. What was your case again? 1. Not OMGUS. I'm not calling you scum because you read me as scum. I've backed off a reason I town-read I had assumed I could make for both of you. 2/3. Fine. 4. I voted you over HF, it's clear I care. 5. No such implication is made. It's merely a pre-emptive acknowledgement that I'm not saying you're confirmed scum. Some people like to misuse the word "certain" and "confirmed" and others don't. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On January 14 2014 07:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are not even calling me scum!!! You are scum. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
There are none. nada. zero. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
1. First actual post with reads On January 10 2014 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have read. ##Vote: GGTeMpLaR Derrida is a pretty pretty town. Holyflare most likely town for realising it. You sheep HF's read on Derrida that didn't even have any reasons behind it to begin with. You then vote on me for no reason aside from going hard on someone you've cleared as town without any reason. 2. Next actual real post with any reads - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440222¤tpage=11#203 You pocket HF by giving a biased argument centered around me and everyone else being responsible for shitting up the thread, and say HF isn't responsible when the first two pages of his filter are spam. HF hasn't even given a read on the game at this point (aside from saying Derrida is confirmed town), yet you know he's town. How's that scum? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43269 Posts
On January 14 2014 07:24 GGTeMpLaR wrote: You want some reasons even though you've given none on why I'm scum? 1. First actual post with reads You sheep HF's read on Derrida that didn't even have any reasons behind it to begin with. You then vote on me for no reason aside from going hard on someone you've cleared as town without any reason. 2. Next actual real post with any reads - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440222¤tpage=11#203 You pocket HF by giving a biased argument centered around me and everyone else being responsible for shitting up the thread, and say HF isn't responsible when the first two pages of his filter are spam. HF hasn't even given a read on the game at this point (aside from saying Derrida is confirmed town), yet you know he's town. How's that scum? Your reasons are bullshit. You can't call me mafia for something i have done at the start of D1, when you have townread me at the start of D2!! You are making shit up. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
Your response to it? On January 12 2014 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: This game is filled with really fucking stupid people. How about you actually look at it instead of ignoring it and calling me fucking stupid? scumbag | ||
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