In light of the fact that you and HF can't be mafia together at this point, I'm just going to work on the assumption that since you two have such a strong history of playing with each other (to my understanding) that one of you wouldn't confirm the other as town if you weren't absolutely certain.

At this point, I'm going to have to say it's between Derrida or Giggle. They both had pretty crappy reasons for voting on Mocsta, who had practically buried himself. In fact, I don't even think Derrida gave a reason, he just hammered the vote and claimed confirmed town for doing it. Meanwhile, Giggle simply claimed it was a policy lynch. I liked a lot of what Giggle contributed on D1 so that just leaves Derrida.

From my perspective, if you and HF are correct about each other, this game is autowin because we just lynch Derrida/Giggle and one of them will be scum. If you waste a misslynch on me however, you'll have to discern between which one of them the scum is (again, assuming that you two are right to confirm each other as town). I'd still look at Derrida over Giggle, but I haven't gone and done any real analysis of the player filters since Mocsta flipped red.

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

January 13 2014 01:34 GMT

#545

Also, if one of you (Rayn/HF) is mafia, then the town out of you basically threw this game and I don't even feel bad if we lose.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 13 2014 04:16 GMT

#546

Yeh I'm very confident in this read now

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

January 13 2014 04:41 GMT

#547

Tell me more

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 13 2014 06:53 GMT

#548

You are scum, i feel it in my bones.

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

January 13 2014 07:29 GMT

#549

Your bones lie.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 13 2014 07:52 GMT

#550

You display all the patterns of a scum whose partner was getting lynched, your attitude at the start was sending crazy mixed messages. The shot on artanis could realistically only come from you. Your reads are beyond the normal town flip flopping and now you try and blame the games demise on one of me and rayn instead of trying to further solve the game or actually determine whether me or rayn were wrong about each other.

You are scum, you played well for your second game of scum. Sleep easy young babe for it shall all be over soon.

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

January 13 2014 08:20 GMT

#551

On January 13 2014 16:52 Holyflare wrote:
You display all the patterns of a scum whose partner was getting lynched, your attitude at the start was sending crazy mixed messages. The shot on artanis could realistically only come from you. Your reads are beyond the normal town flip flopping and now you try and blame the games demise on one of me and rayn instead of trying to further solve the game or actually determine whether me or rayn were wrong about each other.

You are scum, you played well for your second game of scum. Sleep easy young babe for it shall all be over soon.

My attitude in the beginning was to get the game to start. Nothing mixed about it. I can't really remember any serious reads before my first post. Independent of that fact, how was my attitude at the start of the game relevant to the pattern of a "scum whose partner was just lynched" anyways?

I'd love for you to explain the Artanis shot conclusion as I don't see why it's incompatible for anyone's play to have shot him.

I guess if that's true about my reads, then I just flip flop more than the ordinary player.

There is no "games demise" for me to blame anyone for right now. We're in a really good position having lynched the first scum D1. I'm just saying if you or Rayn flip scum this game and the town of you misshammers in final 3, should you even be alive, that person will be to blame for the town loss, especially if they just go into the day like you did blind-voting without any hesitation or second-guessing.

Lastly, it's pretty-pretty-pretty ironic of you to accuse me of not trying to further solve the game when I was the first person to put any actual thought into the game since D2 started. I put some trust into you two as veterans to re-evaluate each other today and if you still vouch for each other with certainty, it has to be between Derrida or Giggle.

I am not scum and this is my first town game. Perhaps you should use your filter comparison skills you used to clear Derrida as town on me and tell me what the results are.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 13 2014 08:50 GMT

#552

The results are in. You are scum.

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

January 13 2014 09:11 GMT

#553

The Scooby gang would be disappointed in you.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 13 2014 10:18 GMT

#554

So GGTeMpLaR's all read flipped around on N1. wow

##Vote: GGTeMpLaR

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 13 2014 11:55 GMT

#555

##unvote

L-1 so unvote cz i can

Corazon

United States3230 Posts

January 13 2014 15:27 GMT

#556

Aquanim has replaced Derrida, effective immediately.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

January 13 2014 19:30 GMT

#557

So. Aqua. What do you think of the events so far?

Giggletummy

Pitcairn200 Posts

January 13 2014 19:39 GMT

#558

I'm fine with that. Very little in the way of mocsta mentions early, almost always as part of a group.

Went for rayn when mocsta was picking up votes and it sounded like artanis/I would rather lynch rayn (also, we wanted to lynch rayn instead, not "sounded like")

Posted that office space bit on HF.

Spent forever accusing Derrida, never went and read the one other game that was linked nice and easy for him. After reading, concluding the filters seem different, but weren't "night and day" and he wasn't cleared.

Derrida still seems very unlikely, given the difference in play and somewhat for the hammer. HF seems unlikely. I'm not. That leaves me rayn and GG, happy to lynch GG today over rayn.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43270 Posts

January 13 2014 20:08 GMT

#559

I am obviously town.

Giggletummy

Pitcairn200 Posts

January 13 2014 20:13 GMT

#560

On January 14 2014 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am obviously town.

And I'm obviously a pterodactyl.

But there aren't a lot of options left, and by virtue of looking less townie than HF or derrida, you're second on the list. Pterodactyls are good at math.