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Holyflare
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Giggletummy
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On January 12 2014 02:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: I like fun games more than won games. If I have to lose some games or put myself in a worse position in order to discourage certain behavior that makes the game less fun for everyone (screw everyone, I'm killing myself because I cba to do anything), I will. With a smile on my face. Do it enough and perhaps people will knock it off.##unvote: So Giggletummy you are voting for a guy you think is town. Why is that? On January 12 2014 02:23 Holyflare wrote: Townies get frustrated and do stupid things. There are more townies, they feel expendable, they feel like they don't want to play the game. There are only two scum. They are not expendable. They feel very scared, because if either of them dies, the other guy is all alone. He's not a scum team anymore, he's a shipwreck survivor clinging to a floating log and trying to survive in the ocean. I'd expect self hammering to come from town based on that.How is self hammering a green indicative thing to do in any instant majority lynch????? Has everyone gone crazy? | ||
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On January 12 2014 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do.Yeah well you don't policy lynch when you have infinite amount of time and D2 LYLO. | ||
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But still, why do you want to policy lynch in D2 LYLO game? | ||
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Giggletummy
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On January 12 2014 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh now i get it. But still, why do you want to policy lynch in D2 LYLO game? On January 12 2014 02:49 Giggletummy wrote: It's not a policy and it's not useful for stamping behavior out if you selectively enforce. | ||
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Holyflare
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On January 12 2014 02:30 Giggletummy wrote: I like fun games more than won games. If I have to lose some games or put myself in a worse position in order to discourage certain behavior that makes the game less fun for everyone (screw everyone, I'm killing myself because I cba to do anything), I will. With a smile on my face. Do it enough and perhaps people will knock it off. Townies get frustrated and do stupid things. There are more townies, they feel expendable, they feel like they don't want to play the game. There are only two scum. They are not expendable. They feel very scared, because if either of them dies, the other guy is all alone. He's not a scum team anymore, he's a shipwreck survivor clinging to a floating log and trying to survive in the ocean. I'd expect self hammering to come from town based on that. He has quite clearly mentioned that he does not give a shit what happens this game. The conclusive proof that he is scum is that he has 2 scum reads, a team that he has constructed of Rayn and me. The votes that were on him were me, Rayn and Artanis. That is 2 of his scum reads voting him so why would he choose to self vote in that situation instead of hammer on with his rhetoric of how me and rayn are scum and it should be obvious from this vote? I'll tell you why. It's because he knows that he is all but dead and wants to leave this game sooner rather than later. You are valuing his care for his team mate way more than you should. How about analysing what I've actually been saying instead of using the wifomy martyr as your basis for a town read? | ||
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Giggletummy
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D1 LYLO game. Someone tries to hammer himself. If he's town, he just tried to end the game for all townies. Yes, I would policy lynch that person. Either the player is scum or just tried to make us all lose anyway. I don't want that guy in D2. I don't want that guy in D3. I don't want that guy in D4. I don't want that guy thinking he can play the same way in another D1 LYLO game, or another, or another. I don't want my children, or my children's children, or some russian orphan that GGQ adopts/smuggles out of russia to play in a game where people think they can just lose the game for town as a townie and that's fine. I would rather play in games where players don't think those actions are okay. Lynch in the D1 LYLO game, lose, and every other townie in that LYLO game maybe shies away from throwing a game because they're frustrated or don't care. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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##Vote: Mocsta | ||
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Giggletummy
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On January 12 2014 03:21 Holyflare wrote: I think we're both valuing things way more than we should, because mocsta either trolled with his vote or actually tried to kill himself. One way he's scum, the other way he's playing in such an illogical way that I don't think he cares who his scumreads are voting. Ascribing strategy and reasoning to him just getting himself lynched doesn't feel like a strong move for either of us, tbh.You are valuing his care for his team mate way more than you should. How about analysing what I've actually been saying instead of using the wifomy martyr as your basis for a town read? I disagree with your characterization of followup on Derrida. Followup on a scumread is often townie. People do things all the time to "pressure" someone when it really isn't worth any pressure. It feels like it should be, so they take action, say there's some pressure, and that's mostly fine. I disagree with you that scummocsta just digs a hole. Yes, a lot of his defense was just dumb comments tossed at you or him saying "you are wrong." That's a terrible way for a scum to defend himself. It's a terrible way for a town to defend himself. So all his responses to your wanting him lynched seem, to me, like the posts of someone who doesn't care about the game, but not from a specific alignment. Disagree, as noted, that self-hammering is scum wanting to end the day early. It's someone who doesn't want to play. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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To me he is scum, i just wanted to find more about you. | ||
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I recognize that I am likely overvaluing that argument, but I do stand by it. | ||
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