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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 04 2014 22:25 GMT
#39
/in
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 05 2014 06:24 GMT
#48
What secret? O.o
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 06 2014 22:28 GMT
#66
I'm already getting anxious because I'm not posting enough.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 06 2014 22:45 GMT
#68
On January 07 2014 07:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
fuba confirmed town for posting at all.

If only it were that simple ^^
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 06 2014 23:05 GMT
#72
On January 07 2014 08:03 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2014 08:00 iamperfection wrote:
Trying a new style.

Read: got a mafia PM

Got me all excited.

I always resolve to try a different style, but it never ends up happening.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 07 2014 00:13 GMT
#90
Wooooooo~

I'm town :D
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 07 2014 06:57 GMT
#259
I went to sleep. For countless reasons, my body was weak, and I've got my first day of classes tomorrow(/today) so I'd prefer to be strong! I was actually hoping to still be asleep right now, but my imagination keeps waking me up with stupid additions to a dream I was having. It's actually really frustrating... /rant over

On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote:
I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks.

This post made me lean scum on cora. Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that), but because he compares Iamp's play in this game to another player's play in a different game. There's no relation between the two aside from the fact that Cora wants to see Iamp as scummy. Like, if his argument is true (iamp is shitflinging), then the conclusion that he is scum follows naturally. The addition of Xatalos's play in another game makes it seem like he subconsciously knows his argument is weak and needs to legitimize it.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 07 2014 07:04 GMT
#263
On January 07 2014 16:00 yamato77 wrote:
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On January 07 2014 15:57 mkfuba07 wrote:
I went to sleep. For countless reasons, my body was weak, and I've got my first day of classes tomorrow(/today) so I'd prefer to be strong! I was actually hoping to still be asleep right now, but my imagination keeps waking me up with stupid additions to a dream I was having. It's actually really frustrating... /rant over

On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote:
I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks.

This post made me lean scum on cora. Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that), but because he compares Iamp's play in this game to another player's play in a different game. There's no relation between the two aside from the fact that Cora wants to see Iamp as scummy. Like, if his argument is true (iamp is shitflinging), then the conclusion that he is scum follows naturally. The addition of Xatalos's play in another game makes it seem like he subconsciously knows his argument is weak and needs to legitimize it.

The argument can't both follow naturally and also be weak enough for scum Cora to have a pseudo-psychological need to legitimize it.

It can if he knows he's actually lying. Town do scummy things all the time - it happens. But if you actually know the person you're accusing is a townie doing something scummy, then you feel the need to legitimize it.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 07 2014 07:09 GMT
#267
On January 07 2014 16:04 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On January 07 2014 15:57 mkfuba07 wrote:
I went to sleep. For countless reasons, my body was weak, and I've got my first day of classes tomorrow(/today) so I'd prefer to be strong! I was actually hoping to still be asleep right now, but my imagination keeps waking me up with stupid additions to a dream I was having. It's actually really frustrating... /rant over

On January 07 2014 11:22 Corazon wrote:
I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II.
He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks.

This post made me lean scum on cora. Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that), but because he compares Iamp's play in this game to another player's play in a different game. There's no relation between the two aside from the fact that Cora wants to see Iamp as scummy. Like, if his argument is true (iamp is shitflinging), then the conclusion that he is scum follows naturally. The addition of Xatalos's play in another game makes it seem like he subconsciously knows his argument is weak and needs to legitimize it.


I think you are scum because your opinion on Corazon depends on if Iamp was actually shitflinging. But earlier you said "Not because he says Iamp is being nonsensical (I would have to jump through his filter to come to a conclusion on that)"

So you're not willing to do research into something that you say makes or breaks your read.



My argument is the opposite. One would assume that cora actually perceived the shitflinging, or at least believes that we could interpret what he's said as shitflinging, but that's not at all a part of my opinion of him. My opinion involves him validating his accusation by comparing iamp's actions to a different scum player in a different game. Saying he's shitflinging and following it up by saying he seems scummy is fine. Saying it's scummy because this other scum did it in another game gives me the impression he finds his own argument weak.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 07 2014 15:46 GMT
#320
The weather outside is frightful -_- Just popping in while I have a few minutes before my first class of the quarter :D

yamato: do you still think my argument about cora makes no sense after I elaborated?

rayn: You said my post made perfect sense, but cora isn't on your scumread list. Por que?
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 07 2014 18:26 GMT
#337
@iamp: I can't speak for scum cora specifically, but I'd expect scum in general to be more willing to drop their reads when confronted regarding them. I take it you don't think that's the case with him?
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 08 2014 08:27 GMT
#673
Unexpected flu is replacing all of my free time with "try to catch up on sleep" time. Symptoms appear to be gone as of now, though, so I'm hoping my activity will pick up as we move into N1.

Only thing I have to say at the moment is that I'm still up for a Cora lynch. I assume that my posts about him make me one of the people "taking all of his posts and twisting them into lies," but he hasn't responded to what I've said in any way, even though numerous people have agreed at various times throughout the day that it's a valid point.

Wish I could participate more in discussion, but I've got about 6 hours before I have to be up again for class, and I'd like to fill it with as much sleep as possible. I should be free for a few hours leading up to the deadline.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 08 2014 08:51 GMT
#681
On January 08 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 08 2014 17:27 mkfuba07 wrote:
Unexpected flu is replacing all of my free time with "try to catch up on sleep" time. Symptoms appear to be gone as of now, though, so I'm hoping my activity will pick up as we move into N1.

Only thing I have to say at the moment is that I'm still up for a Cora lynch. I assume that my posts about him make me one of the people "taking all of his posts and twisting them into lies," but he hasn't responded to what I've said in any way, even though numerous people have agreed at various times throughout the day that it's a valid point.

Wish I could participate more in discussion, but I've got about 6 hours before I have to be up again for class, and I'd like to fill it with as much sleep as possible. I should be free for a few hours leading up to the deadline.

tbh at the time you made the comment about Corazon i was looking forward to his answer because the argument in itself does not make Corazon mafia and is not even necessarily scummy (depending on his answer). Instead it tells more about your alignment as you were clearly trying to figure out the game and thinking in a townie way.

Could you comment on things that have happened in the last pages?

I was kinda hoping for his response too, but it never came. If he's really a townie who feels like people are misconstruing his play, wouldn't he at least comment on something that's been brought up repeatedly?

I just realized that I never actually placed my vote, so...

##Vote: Corazon

Biggest thing of note for me in recent pages is that I was becoming more and more inclined to agree with the scum yamato wagon (his activity felt like his most recent scum game that I was in), but his recent posting explains his previous play, as well as differentiates his play this game from the one I vaguely recall. I'm inclined to trust him.

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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 08 2014 19:16 GMT
#911
It feels incredibly odd for a townie to consistently call out people for "lying" and "intentionally twisting words," but not feel reasonably sure that those people are scum.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 08 2014 19:25 GMT
#927
On January 09 2014 04:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On January 09 2014 04:16 mkfuba07 wrote:
It feels incredibly odd for a townie to consistently call out people for "lying" and "intentionally twisting words," but not feel reasonably sure that those people are scum.


Is Corazon the only person you want to lynch?

At this moment, pretty much. I keep trying to read him as a townie, but things keep jumping out at me.

Class in 5 minutes, gotta run again. Will be out of class in about 1.5 hours, then I'll be here until deadline.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 08 2014 21:19 GMT
#1052
Back from class, catching up from the beginning of p48.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 08 2014 23:05 GMT
#1097
Yeah, from a quick look through his filter in titanic it looks like people were being assholes to him. In any case, he does semi-martyr at the end (says he's done playing and will vote for Xatalos forever), as well as martyring earlier in the game (I believe D1).
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 08 2014 23:10 GMT
#1098
Bleh, I forgot I didn't plug in my laptop, so I need to hunt down an open outlet somewhere. If I can't find an open outlet, I won't be here at deadline, but the lynch seems pretty decided. See everyone at dusk~
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 00:10 GMT
#1115
Whoop whoop! :D
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 02:07 GMT
#1161
Haha, you're funny.

Which part of my filter indicates that I'm scum?
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 02:39 GMT
#1172
On January 09 2014 11:13 gumshoe wrote:
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On January 09 2014 11:07 mkfuba07 wrote:
Haha, you're funny.

Which part of my filter indicates that I'm scum?


None, because theres absolutely no filter to go on : P





In all fairness, your no scummier than me ( : and besides I'm not talking to you right now, one lynch at a time friend, what do you think of Thrawn, and how do you feel about WBS still thinking yamato is scum after the Cora flip?

u so funny~

I haven't filtered thrawn yet. I might get to that tonight, or I might spend some time with my friends.

As for the WBG/yamato/cora thing, I'd say that anything is possible. I think WBG still being suspicious of yamato is reasonable, because as JAT said, cora's lynch doesn't make yamato confirmed town. However, as I read through their filters, I recall it not feeling like a bus. I'm inclined to keep thinking of yamato as town.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 03:03 GMT
#1180
What if Cora had said nothing at all in response to thrawn's accusations?
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 13:26:09
January 09 2014 13:24 GMT
#1311
Gah, I was gonna point out how dick move analysis only eliminates the later inactivity from CC, not anything else anyone might have on him. But I didn't want to do it until I knew my action got off N1 XD My initial intention was to vig kush, though I was going to filter dive all of the alternatives today before deciding.

GG though. I'm not sure how making nothing but legitimate arguments against scum the entire game didn't confirm me as town. I mean, yeah, my filter is small. It's always small. But literally every single post D1 is about scum Cora.

Edit: but I wasn't too concerned because I was going to be confirmed by the daypost anyway (most likely).
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 13:30 GMT
#1316
Eh, I suppose. I mean, that's basically what I did in... Basterd, I think? Basically just whined a bunch about Stutters XD In any case, maybe this is just indication that I should be more insistent about my scumreads.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 09 2014 13:33 GMT
#1322
On January 09 2014 22:24 mkfuba07 wrote:
Gah, I was gonna point out how dick move analysis only eliminates the later inactivity from CC, not anything else anyone might have on him. But I didn't want to do it until I knew my action got off N1 XD My initial intention was to vig kush, though I was going to filter dive all of the alternatives today before deciding.

GG though. I'm not sure how making nothing but legitimate arguments against scum the entire game didn't confirm me as town. I mean, yeah, my filter is small. It's always small. But literally every single post D1 is about scum Cora.

Edit: but I wasn't too concerned because I was going to be confirmed by the daypost anyway (most likely).

People have a tendency to not read what I write even when I'm modconfirmed town, though
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-09 18:43:20
January 09 2014 18:27 GMT
#1389
You might have been able to swing me that way. He was on my list of possible shots. I had a significant amount of filter-diving to do, but kush wasn't set in stone. I really just figured that most people would be ok with that shot given their previous frustration with him. There's also pretty much no way scum was shooting him, so there was no way I could be counterclaimed or otherwise be shenaniganned into a mislynch.

Cora, is there a particular reason that you didn't respond to any of my posts? Was it that you knew I likely wouldn't push all that hard if there was no reaction, or did you see them as just not worth responding to? Or something else?

Edit: I only ask because I'm trying to move myself along. At many game endings I find myself just saying "well, I guess I did something wrong..." but I never actually figure what it was. So next game I end up in the same mindset, except with some additional "I suck" added on.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-10 02:27:51
January 10 2014 02:27 GMT
#1401
The only game I haven't read completely (while alive) is LoL: PYP, because I replaced in like, 200 pages into the game.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 10 2014 03:19 GMT
#1405
Was that last post directed at me, or simply a general statement?

And there's nothing bs about it.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 10 2014 03:31 GMT
#1407
Nope.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 10 2014 04:01 GMT
#1411
Rofl.

It's literally impossible for me to write that much without reading the thread.
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mkfuba07
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1151 Posts
January 10 2014 18:09 GMT
#1476
Haha, I was going to quote that exact post. Making mistakes terrifies me.
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