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On January 09 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: thrawn i would really like to hear what was the intention behind saying this: That looked really bad. I don't think it'd bad. I think you might think it looks bad because it casts you in a negative light. What I was referring to was the horde of people who wanted to talk about policy lynching kush and when I argued about it they completely refused to talk about his alignment. I had to go to work soon and needed a place to park my vote and everyone in the thread was being silly, why wouldn't I want to talk to wbg? | ||
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On January 10 2014 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like your last post i quoted seemed like you were implying you wanted "advice" from WBG, "even if he is scum". That didn't make sense to me. Asking opinions is fine. That bit was me qq'ing about everyone I was talking to and less about bugs. I didn't think he was scum at all. meant to be an insult in the form of ... wbg's scummy advice is probably better than all your town advice | ||
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On top of that he was one of the easiest town reads in that game. So you want to policy lynch him.... why? People like saying it's because he's unreadable.... well he's not, so that makes the people who say that bad. | ||
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On January 10 2014 17:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: That has more to do with my memory than my activity. Everyone is capable of making posts ifthey want to i think. I usually rememeber pretty good what has happened and where to look if i need to reread something. If I can remember the player list without referencing the OP it's an accomplishment. I somehow spent most of the game thinking WoS was the host. One time I had to check the player list to see if marv was in the game because I thought he was and I was about to get mad at him for being afk. that should help you read me better in the future when we're arguing and I don't seem to have any clue what's going on | ||
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On January 10 2014 20:10 marvellosity wrote: btw thrawn, you constantly talk yourself down when you're really very competent All those things I said were true and I have better expectations than "competency." I know how to look townie.. but I never actually find and lead lynches on scum do I? Making reasonable posts is only half the battle. There have been a few times where I start feeling proud of myself after a few successful games, and eventually I'll get completely mindfucked like in WC2 and suddenly I think I know nothing about the game or how to find scum. It always takes a few games to build the momentum back. I do think I am improving but it's just taking a long time and I keep backtracking every time I decide I don't like how I'm approaching the game. | ||
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On January 11 2014 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: ...who also claims a green check on his scumbuddy. lol u bitch. if you had claimed any more than 5 seconds later that game would have been completely different | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + "When you consistently win with something it's only natural that your belief in the validity of your strategy is reinforced constantly. For progamers this is a great way to test the strength of their ideas. If they keep winning with it, it's probably a good strategy because they are testing it against the very best. That however does not apply to foreigners testing their ideas against other foreigners. If Flash shows up to the MSL nals with 1 base bio openings he is going to get mercilessly crushed because Jaedong will know how to beat it. But foreigners can easily go higher than even b- with such atrocious strategies because they play against people who don't know how to react at all. The problem only grows worse because they believe their ideas are correct because they reinforce their beliefs by beating clueless opponents. When such things are possible, it's no wonder the overall strategic understanding becomes warped." "Losing to stupid things will happen and there might be a point where you can beat a decent player who plays correctly yet lose to a poor one who uses inferior strategies. This bizarre situation occurs because you are jumping over a large period of growth by rigorously learning from the correct ideas (those by the pros) instead of learning much slower, but more incrementally, by personal trial and error. Thus there will come a point when you have a gap in your knowledge: you understand what is right, but not why it is right, and thus do not have the know how without a direct example of how to defeat inferior ideas. Seeking explanations certainly does help here as the accuracy on solved problems is usually better than for unsolved ones, but on its own it might not be enough. If you have the skill to play as other races, playing from the other side of the eld is a great x. Try playing that 1 base bio against a bunch of Zergs and see what happens. It really helps to feel, not just read about, the problems from the other POV. Regardless, this is a problem that will vanish after your understanding grows, but it may make a painful bump in the road. The worst part about the second problem is that due to the inherent nature of learning, the initial period of growth is always slow and will show little results. A beginning student cannot eectively comprehend the nature of what they are seeing because they have not built the mental framework to place it in: to them an SC game, especially a pro one, is just a series of actions happening for seemingly incomprehensible reasons. They can't understand their own games, so how could they even begin to relate to one played many levels higher? The slow growth during this period can easily lead to discouragement and is a stumbling block for many people; the inability to establish a mental framework is likely the reason why only a small fraction of SC players can ever get above the level of a d/d+ iccup player." from the same guide, a quote from iloveoov "When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape."" from "How to Improve" by Ver. edit - the BW guide, not the one on this forum | ||
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