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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 08 2014 22:21 GMT
#1089
Maybe he just went emo but if that is the case and he means it this is extremely antitown. Giving up like that is really scummy.
##Vote: Corazon
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 08 2014 23:43 GMT
#1104
On January 09 2014 08:04 Corazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2014 08:00 kushm4sta wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:57 Corazon wrote:
On January 09 2014 07:48 kushm4sta wrote:
in Titanic he was replaced by BH because people suspected him so he asked to be reaplaced. I'm pretty sure that's how it went down.

Wow Kush. Such slander.
First off all, I was town in Titanic II. I'll forgive you for that because you don't read mafia games anyways.
Secondly, I asked to be replaced because DarthPunk, among others, were simply bullying me for no reason.


my point is that you were town.
It's similar this game isn't it? martyring because you are getting bullied.

No, this game is different.
In this game, I'm getting attacked for my scummy play. In titanic, DP was personally attacking me, calling me a "retard" among other things. Rayn was also involved in it (although he apologized and things were cool between us).

I was definitely not bullied as a person. None of the posts made in this game were personal attacks and I'm grateful for that and I hope it is due to my improved behavior.

I'm not ragequitting. I'm conceding (for myself, not the rest of the team). I played bad and deserve to be lynched.

He claimed scum.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 01:00 GMT
#1135
Thrawn looks awful. When Cora really got heat he 180ed and voted yamato/defended cora pretty hard all of a sudden.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 01:06 GMT
#1137
On January 09 2014 03:44 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On January 09 2014 03:43 yamato77 wrote:
On January 09 2014 03:39 thrawn2112 wrote:
##unvote
##vote: yamato

Thrawn. You're better than this as town.


the problem is I no longer want to lynch corazon


The next 10 posts coming after this in his filter are all defense of Cora and after that all he does is trying to get yamato lynched before disappearing when it didn't work.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 01:12 GMT
#1139
Well the "I don't like his face etc." probably is what most closely resembles irrationally madness I guess but that was very early. But you are right bugs their interaction do look unnatural.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 01:19 GMT
#1140
The problem is thrawn and gumshoe probably aren't scum together. What do you think of thrawn bugs?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 01:25 GMT
#1142
I wouldn't call this lynch policy. Cora just played pretty scummy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 01:43 GMT
#1153
On January 09 2014 10:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
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On January 09 2014 10:19 justanothertownie wrote:
The problem is thrawn and gumshoe probably aren't scum together. What do you think of thrawn bugs?


Please tell me why you said this.

Because gumshoe attacked you after the lynch. Scum just lost a member Day1 - I don't think bussing would be the first thing mafia does in this situation.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 02:15 GMT
#1163
Bugs said yamato is not confirmed town by coras flip which is absolutely true.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 11:47 GMT
#1291
On January 09 2014 16:33 wherebugsgo wrote:
I'm lecturing you assholes because you're all saying really stupid things like "day 1 countered wagons have to be town" and "if we kill a townie we just rinse and repeat"

If it didn't sound like you were all clueless I wouldn't have to keep yelling at you for forgetting the newbie guide.

Finally I know what your fucking problem was. Jesus dude I never suggested we should lynch CC - I just told you what happened if we did and he flipped town. Can you stop calling me dumb for reaching the same conclusion you made now? Thanks.
On January 09 2014 16:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On January 09 2014 16:30 gumshoe wrote:
Anyone have any questions for me before I go to sleep?

Not really, no. At least i don't. I don't think your reasons for thinking thrawn is scum are good because you can't tell thrawn's alignment based on what Corazon says about him and the "buddying one guy and not the other people" thingy is just meh but i don't have pa roblem with you because i think thrawn is scum.

I don't really understand why gumshoe is insisting on the weaker points against thrawn that much (I see no scum motivation here but it is weird). I think the arguments against him are quite clear:

- he voted cora
- he unvoted when the cora wagon got momentum
- he instantly started to defend cora hard and did nothing else for a while (weird thing to do when you apparently had a scumread on this person shortly before)
- he tried to fuel the only realistic counterwagon (yamato)
- he disappeared when it didn't happen

Of course you can argue that Cora did not fight him the way he attacked other people who called him out and I saw that quite a few times when mafia is bussing but I don't think that is the strongest point here.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 15:46 GMT
#1345
Indeed. Activity was much better than in some recent games.

Disappointing how it ended.
On January 09 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Insta re-roll roles and go?

I would be down...

Oh, the fishy comment on Artanis/CC was me after Rayn directed my attention at them. Well played rayn btw. you were suspicious of all the scummers before the dickmove.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 16:00 GMT
#1348
On January 10 2014 00:54 iamperfection wrote:
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On January 10 2014 00:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Overall I agree that it wasn't bad, but you have to ask:

How many people after the lynch thought CC was scum?

How many people did we have in the pool to lynch?

If one of Artanis/CC died at some point do you think the players who would be left alive would have killed the other, after how they attacked each other?

From a per-player standpoint it wasn't anything to cry home about. Aside from about 5 players everyone else didn't really do anything. JAT spent the entire game sort of weakly sheeping people, it wasn't really clear to me that he was town. Artanis and CC were mostly afk and while that makes Artanis more likely to be scum, his level of activity dropped to a point where anybody could argue that he was just neglectfully inactive.

Kush did nothing as usual except aggravate half the town by existing.

Aside from the players I mentioned before I can't remember anything that the rest did. To read them properly I'd have to go back to my notes to remember what was the thing in their filter that swung the strongest.

Did you have strong town reads on all of them?

i had artanis as scum in my notes

I had mr CC as a town read regardless of any dick move analysis.

If one of Artanis/CC died at some point do you think the players who would be left alive would have killed the other, after how they attacked each other?

I don't know that's why we play the game out.


Like i dont think you can expect every player to bleed townieness bugs. Would make for a boring game. Some players are better than others skill wise. And its kind of silly to predict on how the game will play out based on where your reads are as of now. Say we put some heat on jat maybe he comes out of it like yamato did maybe he doesn't. Maybe artanis picks up his activity and plays better maybe he doesn't. I didn't really have a problem with any player besides kush.

regardless everybody was at least posting somewhat like i dont believe there was anyone with like 2 posts.

I tend to look townier the longer the games goes on. I admit that my Day1 play generally sucks and I am often attacked early on but in the later stages of the game I am almost always a universal townread. I think this might be similar for some other players.
Predicting that nobody would lynch the second half of CC/Artanis in the end makes no sense. In my experience things like that have less influence on peoples reads the longer the game goes on.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#1351
On January 09 2014 21:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Our QT features 31 posts of which about 10 are Aquanim. I'm not sure it's worth posting.

Could you post it anyways?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 16:02 GMT
#1352
On January 10 2014 01:01 iamperfection wrote:
that's not what i said. I said its pretty impossible to say for certain how the game will play out.

I know. That part was more for bugs than for you.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 16:09 GMT
#1357
On January 10 2014 01:05 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 10 2014 00:54 iamperfection wrote:
On January 10 2014 00:44 wherebugsgo wrote:
Overall I agree that it wasn't bad, but you have to ask:

How many people after the lynch thought CC was scum?

How many people did we have in the pool to lynch?

If one of Artanis/CC died at some point do you think the players who would be left alive would have killed the other, after how they attacked each other?

From a per-player standpoint it wasn't anything to cry home about. Aside from about 5 players everyone else didn't really do anything. JAT spent the entire game sort of weakly sheeping people, it wasn't really clear to me that he was town. Artanis and CC were mostly afk and while that makes Artanis more likely to be scum, his level of activity dropped to a point where anybody could argue that he was just neglectfully inactive.

Kush did nothing as usual except aggravate half the town by existing.

Aside from the players I mentioned before I can't remember anything that the rest did. To read them properly I'd have to go back to my notes to remember what was the thing in their filter that swung the strongest.

Did you have strong town reads on all of them?

i had artanis as scum in my notes

I had mr CC as a town read regardless of any dick move analysis.

If one of Artanis/CC died at some point do you think the players who would be left alive would have killed the other, after how they attacked each other?

I don't know that's why we play the game out.


Like i dont think you can expect every player to bleed townieness bugs. Would make for a boring game. Some players are better than others skill wise. And its kind of silly to predict on how the game will play out based on where your reads are as of now. Say we put some heat on jat maybe he comes out of it like yamato did maybe he doesn't. Maybe artanis picks up his activity and plays better maybe he doesn't. I didn't really have a problem with any player besides kush.

regardless everybody was at least posting somewhat like i dont believe there was anyone with like 2 posts.

I tend to look townier the longer the games goes on. I admit that my Day1 play generally sucks and I am often attacked early on but in the later stages of the game I am almost always a universal townread. I think this might be similar for some other players.
Predicting that nobody would lynch the second half of CC/Artanis in the end makes no sense. In my experience things like that have less influence on peoples reads the longer the game goes on.


Okay, well let me put it this way.

I have won games from Artanis's position.

My second scum game, 9 player mini. My partner got lynched day 1 and we still ended up winning.

My point with regards to CC/artanis is that assuming neither was modkilled, as even the host said, I seriously doubt CC would have gotten serious lynch attention, ever. Towards lylo there are fewer players to kill but by that point the players who are left do not all that often make the best plays.

And again, precedent exists for this. Similar thing to this game happened in June with GM's smurf mini. Scum got replaced instead of mod killed and the town didn't lynch the replacements...because they were replacements.

I don't say that it is impossible. But I also don't think it is very likely. I am pretty confident we could have figured this out with this town. Whatever, this is all speculative.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 16:17 GMT
#1360
I appreciate the defense but you really don't need to do this. I did not play very well this game (although I don't think I played as bad as bugs is trying to sell here).
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 09 2014 16:32 GMT
#1372
On January 10 2014 01:29 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2014 01:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
wait what is this game over?

CONGRATULATIONS YOU WON!!!!

YAY! ...
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
January 10 2014 18:05 GMT
#1475
On January 11 2014 01:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape."

Well this is what at least i do every game.
It usually also works, if not for my team then for the opposite team. haha

I think in mafia games the biggest flaw for people is that they are afraid to make mistakes.

This explains many things. ^^
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