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On January 07 2014 11:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not lynching gumshoe this game. How do you feel about Artanis dropping his troll style so quickly, do you think he would have kept on like that if unmolested for it or did he do it to draw bullshit accusations? | ||
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On January 07 2014 11:38 WaveofShadow wrote: For the record if you want to get yamato to contribute, just threaten to lynch him for a really bad reason. Works every time. ^.^ Welcome Rayn and Cora. Cheese I as well have seen that happen multiple times. Sadly I have seen games where most of the inactives are town just as often if not more often than the ones where the inactives are scum. Not this time, does that make him scum you think? Or is Yamato waiting for the last possible moment to regale us with his glorious reads? | ||
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On January 07 2014 11:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: This man, such faith, how does one do it? Probs roles scum every game  sides, I'm pretty sure he thinks I'm scum and is just trying to lul me to sleep in order to coordinate a midnight lynch. ( I know this isn't majority lynch, but I'm sure rayn will find a way XD) That said, It is late here and I plan to finally catch spl tomorrow so gl all, I will leave my reads though case I die inexplicably. Leaning scummy on cheesecake, don't like the way he asked me about Artanis in voice, it was done in a really neutral way but left the door open for me to use it as an opportunity to attack Artanis. Basically I read it more as him trying to start a fight than him feeling out our alignments. He's very active but hasn't really contributed much, and is very eager to buddy up with talkative townies ( me and especially Artanis who cheesecake despreatly tried to repair relations with after he "misread" one of artanis's posts.) his filter includes lurker discussion in a game so far without actual lurkers, extreme buddying, and goofiness long after the time of goofballs has ended and very little honest scum hunting. Iamp leaning scummy cause of the aggressive way he called out Yamato, Rayn wos Yamato neutral cause not enough to go on. Cora scummy cause I don't like his face. Artanis townie cause he is actually trying to shape up town and he makes sense. Also he thinks I'm scum, which makes me more confident he's town. | ||
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On January 07 2014 11:58 WaveofShadow wrote: Nope nothing else has really interested me. Oh there was one thing I wanted to mention but I didn't find it relevant anymore so I didn't btoher. I'll say it now anyway just for kicks. Gumshoe/Artanis's discussion points regarding analysis of voice mafia play v. forum mafia play made me go 'ehhhhhhhhh,' because voice mafia and forum mafia are incredibly different and there is very little you can do to directly compare the two. I don't really have a conclusion to draw from that either but it was one thing that struck me for whatever reason. Artanis's play early on resembled his voice mafia style, it is also the only experience I have with him so it was better than nothing, he himself admitted his voice play was bleeding into to his forum play so we had a discussion about it. Where lies the issue and what are you trying to insinuate? That we're both scum? Or One of us is?your leaving this very open ended and I'd prefer you come to your own conclusions before you wait and see what someone else might conjure up. Also you fail to mention cheesecake, who indulged me in this seemingly nonsensical discussion, how do you feel about him pushing a matter you consider irrelevant in a manner that might have me got me into a fight with Artanis? | ||
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On January 07 2014 11:47 Corazon wrote: gumshoe, can you define crumbed? It's the state you'll find yourself in once I'm through with you. | ||
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On January 07 2014 12:08 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I don't really understand this line of thinking. Where could I have gotten you into a fight with Artanis? I asked you about the voice mafia and how it compared to what he was doing this game. My initial analysis of Artanis's play in voice was negative, by inquiring about my experience with him in voice in relation to this game you were basically asking me for my thoughts about a potential scum read before I myself was willing to commit to that scum read. | ||
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On January 07 2014 12:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: gumshoe you really should not compare voice mafia "meta" to forum mafia, those things are totally different. Artanis has played mostly serious in forum mafia, the game start he had was a weird one from him that echoed his voice play more so than his forum. what's more it's been sometime since he actually played forum mafia, last game he played was titanic, so its reasonable to think his recent experience in voice may have bled into his play, something he himself conceded. Honestly though I didn't say much about it until cheesecake prompted me to, so I'm mostly with you, though I do think we're getting at least a smidgen of certainly jester Artanis this game. | ||
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On January 07 2014 12:15 Corazon wrote: Gumshoe calling me scum without any reasoning behind it. Now that is nonsensical T.T I don't really think your scum, I just don't like you ATM, and I don't think conversation between us would yield much seeing as we're both resolved to be hostile to one another ( or at least you are yah big jerk ) oh and if you did turn out to be scum I'd be pleasantly surprised ( : | ||
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On January 07 2014 12:24 Corazon wrote: Gumshoe, what am I supposed to think about you when you beg to not be lynched D1 and then say you don't like me but not think I'm scum? exactly the same as I think of you, gl on the girl blog. Night night all, happy hunting. | ||
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On January 07 2014 18:05 justanothertownie wrote: Why are you poking Cora like that? The only reason I could think of (if you are town) is to get a read on him by his reaction but I really think you should reevaluate this approach because if he flips out this thread will become a nightmare regardless of his alignment. As long as you don't have a reason besides hostility stop it. If anyone wants my opinion on anything ask me. I didn't see important things that allow me a real read on a player yet tbh. @gumshoe Earn the right to get to D2, don't ask for it. Pretty condescending. I'm worried about Iamp. He seems to be attacking everyone nonsenically. Reminds me of scum Xatalos in Titanic II. He's just trying to throw shit on people and see what sticks. He makes it out that Iamp is attacking everyone when in actuality hes only called out yamato, when I press him on this he responds gumshoe, can you define crumbed? Critical levels of patronization achieved while dodging a question, I'd consider him scum if not for his reputation as a bit of a dick, sadly his back story makes it difficult for me at least whose never played with him to suss out his alignment. So instead I'll leave hunting Cora to people who know when hes bullshiting, or I'll go after him myself when I have something concrete. I am not trying to start a fight with him, I'm doing the opposite in fact by not committing to an honest conversation, because if we did the thread would burn going by his agitated tone. Also have you considered that I was trying to give scum something easy yet worthless to comment on in hopes of drawing them out? I find it kinda funny that of all the things that happened in the thread, the first thing you feel the need to point out is how the "towniest" (others peoples words, not mine) player was acting like a dick... Do you think I'm scum? If not, how does pointing out something everyone knows help find scum? Also Cora isnt shitting up the thread at all, is the mere threat of him getting mad even if hes town more important than everything else thats happened in this game so far?? Also am I actively aggravating Cora? No, I dont interefere with his discussions with other people and Im only really trolling him whenever he tries to engage me. Man our exchanges havent even gone beyond 6 posts... Its also noteworthy how you suddenly "realized" just how scummy cheese and Artanis looked after Rayn was kind enough to explain it to you... Yeah I'm not liking you much, question for ya, why hasnt Cora burned up the thread yet if hes such a powder keg? Is he afraid of drawing attention to himself or does he just not care? If the latter why do you? Oh and if it helps I havent actually read you girl blogs Cora ) : I also havent really meant any of the dumb shit I've said to you, the aggression itself has served me well though XD | ||
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Cheescake. This is pretty irrelevant right now but I went over a few of cheescakes games while I wasnt feeling well. Obviusly hes not scum going by good old dick move analysis and the certainly demoralizing impact of extractor trick mafia XD but if anyone wants something more concrete, cc seems to be a not very confident player as town, he almost never has a concrete read day 1 and he tends to goof around a bunch. As scum though he actually builds pretty good cases because he doesnt have to be worried about mislynching. So yeah, town. ##unvote Now for my other scum read! Justanother townie has been shitting up the thread with pointless arguments, nitpicking other peoples cases down to nothing, and has provided no cases of his own. Which is exactly how he plays as town XD he despises day 1 and usually starts forming his actual reads later in the game in order to meet his own standard of quality. So going by meta, probs town, although the style is a pretty easy one to recreate as scum. Wherebugso: Going soley by his huge fight with Just, literally the only way he can be scum is if both him and just are scum, otherwise bugs's outbreak was an exceptionally risky play that invited both town scrutiny and potential mod action (I am inclined to believe that mods would not step in if they were aware that both players were scum but that bilief is both wifom and unneccecairy so feel free to disregard it.) Cora: Bad player, but should not be lynched for it, too many people willing for this to happen. Yamato: Coming off a brutal loss, and having to play right off the bat is actually pretty tough, can empathize, besides his posts make sense and hes not lurking as hard as me so cant really fault him on that account XD WOS: Overall I just feel his play is kinda scummy, and while hes active I'm not sensing the typical conviction out of him, or even the good naturedness he exhumes in even dire circumstance as town. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xCXgmgu.jpg) [/url]Too be honest WOS actually looks more townie than several players in this game who are likely town, my read on him is a gut one ) : going by some games ive played with him. Mainly withcraft, where he established his innocence right off the bat and was the towniest force in the whole game, a role he seemed to enjoy immensely, and basterd mafia where he was neutral but once again came off as a guy having all the fun. He just seems to be a bit more scared/confused/serious this time around. ##Vote:WOS (Oh by the way,this is the part where you all switch your votes onto me, cmon guys I have a streak and a rep to maintain ) : | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Cora Carry on then. | ||
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On January 09 2014 09:14 wherebugsgo wrote: That last bit by gumshoe and artanis, both were scummy as shit. The last thing I'd expect a townie to do is dump a massive post right before deadline that summarizes all his reads for no good reason and then royally waste his vote. Bold: I am no man. Oh well, onto more important matters. Cora gave had some interesting interactions with Thrawn Stop stop stop stop stop Rayn and Thrawn. Thrawn - lynching Rayn D1 is a bad idea. If Rayn is town, he is going to be a great asset to us going forward. He should be a policy lynch if he lasts longer than N2. Indication of how scum were planning to play things out? @Thrawn I think you two have had decent contributions to the scumhunt and frankly, I see your back-and-forth b/w you and Rayn to be town on town. I also would hate to lynch Rayn D1. It would just be bad play overall, barring a scum claim from him. Makes an attempt at improving Thrawns standing by associating him with a far townier player ( Rayn) I honestly can't remember what standard I held you to in BttB. I actually forgot that you were in BttB. Your town play consists of switching your reads every 5 minutes so I thought you were being serious about most of your reads. I just read the two pages and told you guys to stop without reading the post right about mine. Usually when Rayn gets in a spat with someone, it lasts for a really long time. In my opinion, lynching Rayn D1 is a bad idea for reasons I've stated already. I don't mean every single word literally T.T Comes under fire but seems reluctant to return aggression, something I'd always thought we could count on coming from Cora. Yeah, I made that post in a bit of haste. I really just said it because I knew that there were a lot better targets for a lynch than you. I just wanted to make up a reason for it because every time I say something, WoS and WBG try to manipulate it so I look scummy. I was pretty sick of it, so I just made a statement that couldn't be twisted. What I really should have said there was that there were a lot better targets than you. I haven't been ignoring any questions. I left before you posted that question and then I asked if there were any questions specifically to see if you wanted an answer to your specific question. Again, while responding to aggression he replies surprisingly reasonably. Heres an interesting moment. You just used meta to call thrawn town. Why are you contradicting yourself? EBWOP: Iamp, not thrawn. He mixes up Iamp with thrawn... Thrawn sure is on Coras mind alot. Cora seems to be pretty confident in Thrawn as a town read, for no real reason, as Thrawn himself has pointed out. Thrawn throws quite a bit of aggression Coras way for this and other matters but Cora rarely returns fire ) : Something hes been more than willing to do insofar. Why would Kora buddy up with a relatively uninfluential townie? Perhaps, expecting to get lynched, he intentionally planted seeds of doubt via these interactions? Meh, that play seems unlikely coming out of him ) :. To Thrawns credit, he was more than willing to lynch the goon, but is bussing Cora that bad a move ((insert period if cynical) as scum when theres already a bit of heat on the pyre? He was also more than willing to see Yamato die as well, and likely woulda gone that route as scum had the vote been willing. ##Eventual vote for: Thrawn | ||
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On January 07 2014 23:20 gumshoe wrote: Pretty condescending. He makes it out that Iamp is attacking everyone when in actuality hes only called out yamato, when I press him on this he responds Critical levels of patronization achieved while dodging a question, I'd consider him scum if not for his reputation as a bit of a dick, sadly his back story makes it difficult for me at least whose never played with him to suss out his alignment. So instead I'll leave hunting Cora to people who know when hes bullshiting, or I'll go after him myself when I have something concrete. I am not trying to start a fight with him, I'm doing the opposite in fact by not committing to an honest conversation, because if we did the thread would burn going by his agitated tone. Also have you considered that I was trying to give scum something easy yet worthless to comment on in hopes of drawing them out? I find it kinda funny that of all the things that happened in the thread, the first thing you feel the need to point out is how the "towniest" (others peoples words, not mine) player was acting like a dick... Do you think I'm scum? If not, how does pointing out something everyone knows help find scum? Also Cora isnt shitting up the thread at all, is the mere threat of him getting mad even if hes town more important than everything else thats happened in this game so far?? Also am I actively aggravating Cora? No, I dont interefere with his discussions with other people and Im only really trolling him whenever he tries to engage me. Man our exchanges havent even gone beyond 6 posts... Its also noteworthy how you suddenly "realized" just how scummy cheese and Artanis looked after Rayn was kind enough to explain it to you... Yeah I'm not liking you much, question for ya, why hasnt Cora burned up the thread yet if hes such a powder keg? Is he afraid of drawing attention to himself or does he just not care? If the latter why do you? Oh and if it helps I havent actually read you girl blogs Cora ) : I also havent really meant any of the dumb shit I've said to you, the aggression itself has served me well though XD This should answer any questions you have about my early stance on Cora, heres some supplementary material @Corazon. Your girl blogs suck Cora scummy cause I don't like his face. On January 07 2014 12:24 Corazon wrote: Gumshoe, what am I supposed to think about you when you beg to not be lynched D1 and then say you don't like me but not think I'm scum? exactly the same as I think of you, gl on the girl blog. Night night all, happy hunting. TLDR, I had a dark gut feeling based off nothing really early on, I've had the same feeling several times in varius games that I can point out to you if you like. The problem was that Cora has a rep as a bad player, so I deemed the feels unreliable in this circumstance. As for my asking not to be lynched in exchange for providing the heads of scum, its the start of night 2 man, all you did yesterday was call people stupid, fight for a policy lynch and eventually settle on taking out the guy whose always the least towny person in thread regardless of alignment. I honestly fail to see how you've done more than "shape up town" and pad your own filter. But thats fine, we lynch day one and it usually is what it is, we just so happened to get lucky that Cora rolled red. Nows the time when everyone really has to prove their worth. What do you think of Thrawn Bugs? | ||
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On January 09 2014 10:25 justanothertownie wrote: I wouldn't call this lynch policy. Cora just played pretty scummy. Ive been lead to believe that he always does. | ||
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