EPTWhen I get home later though I will look into JAT now that he's done something.
Iamp if we had to lynch two people right now who would they be and why?
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When I get home later though I will look into JAT now that he's done something. Iamp if we had to lynch two people right now who would they be and why? | ||
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Mind explaining YOUR motivation behind it or your motivation behind jumping on me? | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote: well im gonna say bugs is town considering he basically for the last few pages has told everyone to look at me and seems to care way to much if he were scum. Plus he did that thing were he says im picking up my ball and going home and decides to post anyways. That's a townie thing to do in my view as scum are more apt to try to have an excuse to leave the thread. that said chill out bugs lets catch scum but ill even do the work for you because yamato is scum. If you look at his filter there is nothing of value come join me on the wagon of justice ## Vote Yamato Holy shitballs. I'd be inclined to thing WBG is scum for shitting the HELL out of this thread, but I don't know his play all that well honestly. Is he capable of 'caring' this much as town? Am I giving the past few pages as possible scumplay too much credence? I certainly do like a great deal of what has been said though, especially the lurker business because, you know, I say that shit all the FUCKING time. Anywho, I believe I promised a look into...JAT, was it? I can actually have a look into multiple people now and will be present for the rest of the evening so I'll do a whole bunch. Maybe I can get WBG to call me dumb too.  | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:18 kushm4sta wrote: yeah id lynch wos Of course you would, honey. | ||
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JAT: Until prodded endlessly by WBG, he contributed nothing to the thread besides the nitpicking of other people's posts and reads and providing none of his own. Not a huge fan of his posting thus far---a little too 'fence-sitty' for my liking but whateva. Iamp can I have a looky at you next? | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:21 Corazon wrote: Wait can someone explain to me why that post was scummy? I'm not too familiar on WoS' town play so I'm not sure what you two see in his post. lol lolwut ALL of my play is townplay | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:20 iamperfection wrote: anything to say wos Not particularly. If I wasn't so lazy I'd find you the 8 other games where my entry/return posts made people think I was scum. We can talk 'bout stuff if you'd like though. | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:23 wherebugsgo wrote: I'm sorry, what? Most of this shit is just blatantly wrong or misleading. Yamato, please. I want to hear your thoughts on him. I'd lynch him atm actually. ##Vote: yamato I'm used to WAY more effort from him on any given D1 at this point. Too much one-liner, too much shutting down of discussion and negativity---and while he's capable of this as town, he's also capable of better play and I don't mind punishing him. Seriously threatening him is also often a good way to get something good out of him one way or another; see LXIII or LXI for examples. Yamato LOVES being tha D1 lynch. | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:25 wherebugsgo wrote: what do you think of this? LOL I DID notice that. Cora what turned the lightbulb on? On January 08 2014 10:26 justanothertownie wrote: I started the conversation with bugs you know... Conversation yes, good contribution imo no. You offered exactly zero reads or opinion of your own aside from those that served to pick on others' posts and logic. Very VERY easy to do as scum. I dunno 'bout you yet. | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:33 justanothertownie wrote: Well, if I am not mistaken I was prodding bugs for reads at least as hard as the other way round. How come you paint the whole thing this one sided? I didn't; I was giving my read of you. I find your posting up until the reads you gave that WBG wrenched out of you forcefully neutral and unopinionated in a meaningful way. If you don't see the difference between yours and WBG's posting during that conversation than I don't believe there is more I can say on the matter. | ||
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I'm dumb. There you didn't have to do it bugs | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:37 iamperfection wrote: why did you wait so long to do this considering you said the same thing yesterday but didn't bother to vote? 'Cause he still hasn't done dicks since, and like I said yesterday, if you were reading, one vote two hours into D1 does not a threat make. I fully support anyone who would like to join me on this wagon, btw. On January 08 2014 10:38 wherebugsgo wrote: While this is true, there are other, more important things that I think you might be missing. Do you actually think JAT is scum or would you say that his lack of reads is disconcerting? And if you had to name an alternative to yamato who would it be? It's in your best interest to be forthcoming with your reads, since your last few posts haven't looked so good if you are town. Uh....don't threaten me. I don't respond to threats. When exactly in this game have I been anything BUT forthcoming? Did I try to hold back my reads at any point? Because I sure as hell can't think of ANYONE who would do that, right? I've already said I'm not sure about JAT. I don't like his neutrality, I'd maybe lean slightly scum right now but I haven't had the chance to do a dive of a whole bunch of other people. Yall are too busy jumping down my throat right as I return to the thread so I haven't had time for much else. | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:41 justanothertownie wrote: How convenient. The problem is you are trying to throw suspicion on me by saying bugs had to forcefully wrench reads out of me when it was exactly the same the other way round. He did not give any reads before that. How does that make any sense? Nope. Wrong. The way I see it, WBG reveals a great deal about himself in the way he defends his policy lynch and most importantly puts himself out there. Everything you had posted up until that point was simply an attack or criticism of somebody else. You know, I'll give you that you're right I suppose in that it is not a read in the proper sense but at least it allows the entire thread to attempt a read of him. His posts are not guarded, careful. Yours reek of it. | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Nope. Wrong. The way I see it, WBG reveals a great deal about himself in the way he defends his policy lynch and most importantly puts himself out there. Everything you had posted up until that point was simply an attack or criticism of somebody else. You know, I'll give you that you're right I suppose in that it is not a read in the proper sense but at least it allows the entire thread to attempt a read of him. His posts are not guarded, careful. Yours reek of it. And here's the thing about WBG. I'd call him town simply based on his lurker rage (because it is something I strongly can identify with throughout multiple games) but my issue there is I don't know bugs well. It is entirely possible that he's a clever duck and is jumping on the leftover rage bandwagon from the recent drama threads and is harnessing that in this game or some shit. I don't know how he TRULY feels, or what he is capable of as scum. | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:48 justanothertownie wrote: Holy mother of shitlogic. WBG reveals a great deal of himself by talking about POLICY the whole time? Surely you can enlighten me why scum would not be able to comfortably talk about policy how much they want? Also he is clearly putting himself out there with this while I certainly don't do so by getting in a fight with him. Your posts reek of Sherlock... He doesn't just [i]talk[/] about policy. He is throwing it left and right. As I said, it is entirely possible he is doing it as scum and the rage is faked, but if he's scum, to me it's for a different reason than why you are. Sorry JAT, call it shitlogic if you want but that's my stance on the matter. I see differences in your posting styles and your methods of attack even if the content may run similar at points. | ||
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On January 08 2014 10:49 wherebugsgo wrote: Okay, fair enough. I'm just saying that because I think the votes today are probably going to be split between you and yamato unless something changes pretty drastically. If you are town then it's obviously in your best interest to stay active and provide your reads. You've been doing that so far, I have no complaints on that front. It's just that a couple of your posts over the past page have been somewhat scummy. In overall context they're definitely not the worst, though. I'd have to agree that Yamato is a better choice than you for now, particularly since both kush and iamp sort of reflex voted you. Kush is...well kush, and as he has made people aware of already in this game, he plays just to annoy and troll people, and he thinks that voting me/getting me lynched at this point will make me mad, just as he thought provoking you would be fun. On January 08 2014 09:06 kushm4sta wrote: k now this is starting to get fun for me because apparently im pissing you off. i posted "so whos scummy" because i was curious about who was scummy obviously. in fact all of my posts had a reason. I was telling you my thoughts about the game. If you dont think they are sufficient then say that, but there is no excuse to call me a fuck, to call me cancerous. sir that play is illegal and it would bring me great pleasure if you were modkilled. He pulls this 'asking for modkills' shit every game afaik....his play is just so ridiculous and yet there are some people who continue to praise it.... As for iamp, he's a solid player and I expect him to come around at some point. The reflex vote...meh it's still early, though that does remind me I did want to look into him. | ||
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I make this perfectly clear right now. For my own sanity and continued quality of contribution/play this game, I will be keeping interaction with kush to the absolute bare minimum necessary. Those who have any knowledge of me whatsoever should find this no surrpise. | ||
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So he was actually the first person to pick out yamato for the stuff I mentioned, real early too. Then even tosses a vote on him (before switching it and making me have a sad  ). I see the targeting of yamato as one of two things: - Either a scum Iamp who sees a yamato who has decided not to contribute a great deal or of any sort of real quality and an easy mislynch potential - Town iamp Problem is now, not the fact that he voted for me per se (since many of you found faults in my return, but whatevs), but more that word that was used 'reflex' vote. For whatever reason I am often viewed as an easy mislynch target D1 as well; the only person who has EVER succeeded in pushing it through on me was a town Rayn---and that's probably over at LEAST 7-8 attempts on a D1 mislynch that I've gotten out of. I am NOT an easy mislynch so the question then becomes does scum iamp know this or not, does he care, or is he town? Honestly...I think I'd lean towards town here because I see similar thought process to mine (his technically came first), and is now caught up in what he believes to be a good potential scum target for my return posting | ||
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On January 08 2014 11:14 wherebugsgo wrote: everyone has this problem with me, because I am "good" at scum. If you read any of my past games (and you can take my word on it if you want to, though if you really wanted to be thorough you can actually go back and check) I rarely, if ever, take any suspicion on day 1 as scum. It's often to the point where not even a single person will vote me on day 1. I am not afraid of pressure or anything like that as scum but I purposely make my scum play "townish" and I will throw in heaps of aggression or "unexpected" scum play just to throw people off, but I am very self conscious about how much pressure I am under and generally on day 1 I am under none as scum-I don't let it get there because I spend the time coordinating my team instead of posting lots. + Show Spoiler [wherebugsgo] + TL Mafia L Town Vanilla Survived TL Mafia XLIV Town Tracker Killed Night 4 Cosmic Horror Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4 Resurrection Mafia Town Holy Priest Survived Some Mafia Game Town Jailkeeper Killed Night 2 My Little Pony Mafia Mafia Ninja Survived Lord of the Rings Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 1 TL Mafia XLV Town Miller Lynched Day 5 Pick Your Power Interesting! Town CPR Doctor Killed Night 3 Team Melee Mini Mafia - Couples Therapy Mafia Vanilla Lynched Day 3 Steamship Liquidia (TL Mafia 46) Town Vanilla Killed Night 3 Mini Mafia X Mafia Vanilla Survived Responsibility Mafia! Mafia Day Vigilante Killed Night 2 BCs Arkham City Mafia Ras al Ghul Killed Night 2 Hammer Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 1 Storm Mafia Mafia Medic Lynched Day 5 Kaller Game Town George W Bush Lynched Day 1 A Game of Thrones Mafia Third Party Littlefinger Victory Death Factory Mafia 2 Town Vengeance Toy Killed Night 2 Im a cop you idiot mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 1 Liar Game Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 3 TL Mafia LV Town Vanilla Killed Day 3 Magic: The Gathering Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4 Pick Your Poison Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 1 Bureaucracy Mafia! Town Judge Killed Night 1 PTP3 - Pikachu's Revenge Third Party Mewtwo Killed Night 2 Paranoia Mafia Town Mason Lynched Day 2 Hero Mini Mafia Town Jailkeeper Killed Night 1 Dessert Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Night 5 Personality Mafia 2 Third Party chezinu Lynched Day 1 Mad Men Mafia Town Miller Killed Night 2 TL Mafia LVIII Town 1-shot Detective Killed Day 2 Smurf Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 3 If you note I've played mafia 6 times. In minis, 3 times; in all of those minis I survived to at least lylo. I won two of them by living to endgame. In the third, I lived to lylo, finally got lynched and then our team lost because I was basically the only one playing (it was a hydra mini, 7 town hydras 2 mafia hydras, so 18 players total. Endgame was controversial because of the way the last lynch went.) In the other three games, one was a game in which everyone was a vig. I got shot by a spam vigi in Responsibility on N2. In Arkham a 3P who had the ability to make himself look like anything made himself look like mafia. He then chose to shoot me N2 because I tried to get him lynched on D2, but it was highly unlikely that I ever would have been lynched that game based on how it was progressing. In Storm Mafia, similarly to Couples Therapy I was fairly safe until my teammate died d4, and then our entire team got lynched 4 days in a row. I also played in a couple others that are not on this list, Space Station and (I think?) The Game. I was definitely mafia in SS mafia and I was never suspected d1 or ever, really. I was shot by a vig in the town circle after the rest of the players in the game had basically been confirmed to be town and my team had already been decimated. Fact of the matter is that I take a shit ton more lynch attention as town/3p than scum. I really didn't get lynched as town all that often until my more recent games, though. I am doing my best to not form suspicions/opinions primarily based on meta. All I'm saying with that post you quoted is that it is possible you are doing what you're doing as scum, which you yourself agreed with I believe. Now, you say you tend not to garner much suspicion on D1 when you play scum, but I would argue those games were a LONG time ago, and with an entirely different breed of player (as so many on TL Mafia would have us believe  ). You don't have any idea that players here woudl treat you the same way or not, and I have no idea if you're playing differently to those games or not (and I'm really not about to go filtering a whole bunch of past games like that. I'm not very good at it nor do I really want to tbh) I really can't take this defense-ish post of yours into consideration, but I appreciate the explanation, however unwarranted it may be at the current time.For now I go yamato. Rayn where you at? Wanna join me on this? | ||
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