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kushmasta's reads are contradictory and irrational. Coagulation just idk.. just says whatever and votes for whatever. Alakaslam is not making any sense and refuses to give detailed reads. yamato refuses to play and calls me stupid instead. Hopeless is making some sense but it's pretty easy when noone else is making any sense. When asked to do something does nothing.
I have no fucking idea what to do.
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Like kush, i can somehow see what is up with your reads. Could you explain your Coag read's evolution when you get a chance. ##unvote
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So you decided to lynch Coag over a dude who hammered his town read who all of his scum reads were voting for on D2. gj!
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Based on D2 kush was the most obvious mafia i have ever seen in a game. Sentinel why the fuck did you vote for yamato on D2 - i specifically wanted all of those people to contribute?
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On January 09 2014 04:16 Coagulation wrote: Nah I made a legit case on scum day 2. you ignored it. Thats not called "not doing anything the entire game"
Yeah and then your scumread asked you to vote for another townie and you did so. Then you hammered that person. ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) Didn't look too fancy.
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On January 09 2014 04:09 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Based on D2 kush was the most obvious mafia i have ever seen in a game. Sentinel why the fuck did you vote for yamato on D2 - i specifically wanted all of those people to contribute? Because he wasn't reading. You were the only one that even half read my posts out of all the town players. Yes i did and i wanted to lynch into kush/Slam/Coag. Most likely kush because all of his reads were crap, i just wanted them to speak before making a decision.
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On January 09 2014 04:21 Coagulation wrote: no that was kush. I cant read kush very well so it was 50/50
at that point I was just going with general town flow because no one recognized my read on slam and I started to assume it was bad cause everyone ignored it. I mean you had a scumread on yamato. then he asked you to vote for hopeless, and you did so. Ultimately you ended up voting for yamato, the dude who asked you to vote for another dude and did hell of more stuff than Hopeless on D2.
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On January 09 2014 04:30 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 04:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 04:21 Coagulation wrote: no that was kush. I cant read kush very well so it was 50/50
at that point I was just going with general town flow because no one recognized my read on slam and I started to assume it was bad cause everyone ignored it. I mean you had a scumread on yamato. then he asked you to vote for hopeless, and you did so. Ultimately you ended up voting for yamato, the dude who asked you to vote for another dude and did hell of more stuff than Hopeless on D2. this is why i voted coag btw. i thought it was a tossup between kush/slam Seriously?!?!?!?
KUSH HAMMERED HIS TOWNREAD WHO WAS VOTED BY BOTH OF HIS SCUMREADS! God...
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On January 09 2014 04:42 thrawn2112 wrote: who all thought i was scum at the end of D1 You were clearly scum.
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I thought gumshoe was scum because he had a thought process that said "rayn as town is lying about his reasons for his claim". It made absolutely zero sense to me and there is really nothing you can say to "clarify" that.
I agree the lynch was terrible and i take all the blame for it.
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On January 09 2014 04:53 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 04:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I thought gumshoe was scum because he had a thought process that said "rayn as town is lying about his reasons for his claim". It made absolutely zero sense to me and there is really nothing you can say to "clarify" that.
I agree the lynch was terrible and i take all the blame for it. I probably helped it along a lot more than people think even if I semi outed myself doing so My main reason for you being scum was because you would not tell me why would i fakeclaim and you used a bullshit argument (which btw yamato used aswell) comparing this game to Witchcraft where I HAD TO CLAIM SOMETHING. Of course i fakeclaim as mafia when as town i would be blue.
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The setup was fine. I fucked up on D1 and Sentinel and Hopeless fucked up on D2. I would have solved the game if people would have given me more time on D2, i was already going to lynch kush, i jsut wanted other people to contribute.
I love games where there are only little tiwm (MYLO D2). It forces people to play.
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yamato this is why i thought you were mafia:
On January 07 2014 12:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are town i would assume you would be willing to admit you made a mistake and instead of banging your head against the wall with voting for Hopeless you would say something like "okay guys, since you CC/Sent/rayn want to lynch me over Hopeless let's try it this way. At least take your votes off me, because it's clear me and Hopeless are not both mafia, let me and Hopeless give reads on Coagulation/kush/Alakaslam and discuss those reads, because there is at least one mafia in that pool".
That would be reasonable. Unless you are mafia and know when you flip Hopeless becomes "confirmed" and you don't wanna out your scumbuddy.
So why are you being stubborn and not taking different approach? When you started doing stuff i reconsidered. Then, when i ESPECIALLY stated i want to hear from ALL of other people (Slam,Hopeless,kush,Coag), ALL of those people decided to hammer. + Sentinel, that was the worst vote of D2.
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On January 09 2014 06:44 Blazinghand wrote: I think the D2 LYLO (which is what happens if scum hits and the vigi misses) is pretty solid also, though it's best with IML where on D2 town can take some time to think if they need to.
What do people think of the silent nights? I actually really like them. I think a lot of night talking has the potential to be dumb. The downside is that last minute claim shenannies and crumbs that happen at night can't happen (though maybe this is an upside?)
In any case any input on that would be great. Night talk helps town. For example, if there was night talk in this game i could have told at least kush is mafia on N2 (but on the other hand i am not sure if thrawn could have convinced Sentinel of not being scum).
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On January 09 2014 06:48 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 06:44 Blazinghand wrote: I think the D2 LYLO (which is what happens if scum hits and the vigi misses) is pretty solid also, though it's best with IML where on D2 town can take some time to think if they need to.
What do people think of the silent nights? I actually really like them. I think a lot of night talking has the potential to be dumb. The downside is that last minute claim shenannies and crumbs that happen at night can't happen (though maybe this is an upside?)
In any case any input on that would be great. Night talk helps town. For example, if there was night talk in this game i could have told at least kush is mafia on N2 (but on the other hand i am not sure if thrawn could have convinced Sentinel of not being scum). Interesting. Do you think night talk is fun/good? Like if it's a slight town helper, and we got rid of it while still keeping the game balanced in some other way (adding IML, or whatever) would that be an improvement to the fun factor? Or would it make the game less fun? It helps in a sense that there is +1 townie (the night kill) to analyze the results of the lynch and votes. Kinda important especially in IML games imo.
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Day 1 lynches are worse than random and it's pretty easy to see why. Day 1 is the worst for town and the best for scum, statistically scum is going to mislynch the shit out of town a vast majority of the time on day 1. On day 1 town has no information-the game is about catchup. Mafia, on the other hand, know what all the alignments are and are under no particular suspicion of their own. And this is exactly why i claimed. And found 1 scum 1 town scummy as hell - 5 town reads of which 4 were correct, 2 null because they did not post (which was my fault anyways).
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I'd play this setup any day. I think it's one of the best setups i have played. ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) I dunno why people don't like hard games.
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