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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 19:22 GMT
#339
Oh, complete conspiracy theory, mafia shot their own to be able to claim medic and vig for themselves.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 19:31 GMT
#341
On January 05 2014 04:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Why shouldn't the vig claim? If they blew their shot, they're essentially a VT now, right?

They probably should but I'd rather they/we all decide its a good idea that will have a definite benefit, instead of giving scum a place to hide or cause confusion.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 19:36 GMT
#345
yeah i claimed nothing I'll gladly take confirmed town status though
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:15 GMT
#354
On January 04 2014 12:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 12:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
see you guys later I got partying to do


dafuq is this

Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 12:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
##Vote: [UoN]Sentinel


This is why sent shot thrawn.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:18 GMT
#355
i mean aside from rayn saying to do it, he actually thought it was a good idea in and of itself. p.s. I would have totally roleblocked sent if i was scum huehue
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:22 GMT
#358
we should lynch yamato for the lulz
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:29 GMT
#360
nah yamato promises solutions, he usually delivers. otherwise we lynch him
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:34 GMT
#363
is joke bbycakes
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 20:58 GMT
#366
On January 05 2014 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Thank you Sentinel for listening to me on thrawn (or good job or whatever your reasoning was ^^). Apologies guys for D1 lynch, i was really bad and that was bad from me.

I'll shut up for some time so people can actually talk and we don't end up with a clusterfuck like D1 lynch.
I was roleblocked.

how do you know you were roleblocked?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 21:05 GMT
#368
yeah thats my bad i misread this post
On January 04 2014 07:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Some Rule Clarifications:
You will never be informed of an RB, regardless of your role/alignment. The only evidence will be a night action not working.
A cop or Pcop gets told if their ability doesn't work, even on the first night for a pcop. A vigi gets refunded the bullet if RBed, but otherwise gets no refund. A Veteran, Doctor, or JK receives no PM informing them of RBs. Mafia RB takes place before town JK's RB.

Scum KP is factional.

Doctors and JKs, and people protected by them, are not informed of night hits / saves. A Vet, however, is informed.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 04 2014 21:05 GMT
#369
I thought i had you caught in a lie sorry rayn
Do you believe sent and CC about their claims?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 00:20 GMT
#371
i dunno maybe you thought they were scum for other stuff?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 09:49 GMT
#416
Yamato didnt consider that scum might shoot him...where is his town ego? I'm calling shenanigans. Dudes scum.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 13:14 GMT
#430
Damnit rayn i was actually going to do something for a change. Took the words out of my mouth. This is what i get for waking up at 5am then going back to sleep.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 13:38 GMT
#431
This post is from TL LXIII where BH tried to use an RNG lynch as his mayoral campaign.
On November 16 2013 08:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Hey so before we go all pant-head here I will upgrade to sock-head and push for an RNG lynch

So here's what happens

1) you elect me mayor

2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 31. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. I've done this before. It works.

Show nested quote +
For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.


In this case,
1 = BC
2 = Mattchew
3 = Sharrant
4 = VE

and so on

all the way up to...
30 = BH
0 = Oatsmaster

(since a multiple of 31 modulo 31 is 0, not 31).




From that same game, here is yamato's reactions to NOT getting made mayor and being subsequently shot N1.
On November 18 2013 06:49 yamato77 wrote:
Okay, so I've caught up to the lynch since I stopped reading yesterday due to going to my friend's birthday and then subsequently passing out for 12+ hours. FIRST and FOREMOST, I want to say that neither super nor VE have analyzed just about anyone in the game at all up to this point and yet people trusted their reads and analysis skills over mine (LOLOLOLOLOL). I should have been elected pardoner, mafia will 100% shoot me tonight.

hiss gg post
On November 18 2013 10:02 yamato77 wrote:
I told you I was dead

idiots.


Also, yamato's general opinion of me, again from LXIII
On November 17 2013 02:32 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2013 02:31 Pandain wrote:
Yamato if you're mayor I think you should lynch hopeless or BH. I think Storr is good becasue he is playing pretty weird and he is playing the newb card so much when he really shouldn't and it's becoming really disconcerting especially since he also ran for mayor.

Why hopeless?

I mean, he's always useless.

Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 13:52 GMT
#432
If you have time, or happen to remember LXIII, yamato is absolutely capable of providing a compelling and eloquent argument. He has multiple large posts that arent simply a summary they are brief analyses of players that demonstrate critical thought and scrutiny. In this game, his list posts are lacking in this regard.

I especially have a problem with the fact that he has a documented history of thinking I'm generally useless and has found sufficient reasoning in "my filter" to say I should be lynched with fire.



As rayn already noted, Yamato has been trying to cast doubt on the blueclaims
On January 05 2014 17:29 yamato77 wrote:
This is a bit silly. There's no conclusive evidence that any of their claims is 100% confirmed.

There are no counterclaims, that is evidence by itself. Unless yamato is counterclaiming (and he hasnt to my knowledge) then the simple answer is that all the night action claims are legit. Rayn's needs to be scrutinized at this point, but imo his claim also checks out. Ergo 3 confirmed town for the sake of limiting our scope of analysis unless there are counterclaims.

Of the three, I trust CC's the most. It's believable that scum wanted to let Rayn live because of how he played D1 (or that Rayn is possibly scum) and thus shot CC, who is a better player than Slam and the second towniest player behind him.

Where does yamato fall on this list of townliness? No one else thinks its strange that he doesn't consider himself a viable shot? Especially after the points I pulled from LXIII about him knowing he was about to die before he was shot?

If I believe CC's claim, I kinda have to believe Sent's claim as well, considering the setup. There is a possible scenario where they are the last two mafia and intentionally did this, but I haven't enough reason to doubt my read on CC to believe in it yet. Sent seemed mafia-ish D1, but it's not enough to take a leap of faith.

This is unnecessary fluff

Rayn's claim makes no sense as any alignment, so I'm basically ignoring the fact that he claimed altogether. There is NO WAY to confirm his claim yet and NO REASON to ignore him now because of it. He led the lynch D1, and has now basically just peaced out of any responsibility for how D2 goes. It's definitely possible that he was scumbuddies with thrawn and accused him D1.

rayn has covered this beautifully already here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20533299

That leaves Coag, you, and Hopeless as possible mafia, with AT LEAST ONE likely to be, POSSIBLY TWO, if Rayn is to be believed. The correct play would be to thus pick one of you three and lynch him, and I'm pretty sure I already said Hopeless is the scummiest.

By the way, the list was MOSTLY based off reads I made during the night phase. I have only just now begun to consider the implications of the claims seriously.

coag, kush, hopeless as possible mafia. convenient that slams missing. I guess he's being readable this game and the 3 of us aren't? You don't need to be scummy to be mafia in yamato's game, you just need to be lurk or troll and that is sufficient.

.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 15:00 GMT
#438
On January 05 2014 23:55 kushm4sta wrote:
Another possibility i just realized is yamato is pr and that's why he mysteriously doubts that all the prs are telling the truth. that actually makes a lot of sense. omg kush pro bluhunter.

well he hasnt counterclaimed. I pointed this out already.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 15:54 GMT
#449
On January 06 2014 00:46 kushm4sta wrote:
furthermore there are reasons why yamato might not want to counter claim his blue role.

well then I'd like him to bring them up. Its not a stupid part of the argument. He's beating around the bush on whether the PRs are legit. I'm here trying to confirm townies, how is that a scum agenda? Yamato is reluctantly admitting they are probably good but still clutches to 'sent seems redish' and 'rayn makes no sense' both of which do not appear to be reasonable statements to me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 17:05 GMT
#457
can you settle for yamato today and i'll help you lynch kush tomorrow Mr.Sexycake?
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 05 2014 17:37 GMT
#473
I just want Yamato to die today. If he flips red, then kush looks worse
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