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On January 04 2014 11:17 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn why would i claim parity cop as mafia instead of just.. you know, not claiming? After WC I'd hope you'd never ask me something like that again  Anyways I don't having pressing reasons to interrogate you so I'm just leaving it at that for now.
Now this is a bad post. The situation is totally different.
If you are seriously comparing these situations...
- Fake cop claim and a green check on your scumbuddy when you have to claim something on a night before LYLO
- Cop claim 1h into the game
..you are scum.
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On January 04 2014 11:20 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 10:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless is being reckless. Regardless of gumshoe's alignment townies are more likely to be eager to jump on lynches early on in the game where there is a majority lynch. Hopeless had a randomlynch for himelsf to hide behind if he didn't want to gather attention for hopping on to gumshoe wagon. I think it's more likely as mafia he would stay more neutral and promote more discussion before switching his vote onto gumshoe with literally no reasons given. I don't get you here. You say hopeless is setting himself up to potentially hide behind a random lynch and you think that is reckless in a townie way?
I am saying that's what he could have done instead of putting himself possibly in a spotlight by jumping on to gumshoe.
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On January 04 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
a counterclaim nets us 1 mafia guarenteed, not a scummy play. Cant let a fakeclaim go un cc'd anyway.
sent there are reasons gum looks bad and thats not one of them. i domt see how rayn is mafia fakeclaiming cop without a cc, and i hv no reason to distrust in that. fuck parity cop, esp with potential gf
On January 04 2014 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn why would i claim parity cop as mafia instead of just.. you know, not claiming?
These, plus looking at setup as scum would see it (losing one scum today versus a mislynch makes the game a lot harder for them) make me think if there is a cop, should counter claim, and Rayne probably confirmed town versus otherwise.
Another reason I think so now is I was literally going through why I thought an early claim like that is so bad as either alignment that coming from Rayne it just reeks of scum, and he thought I was being wishy-washy and almost like he couldn't conceive how it was scummy- which I took as even scummier, but a look back, as town he would say the same stuff- you do something SPECIFICALLY to get people to work with you and first thing, this guy comes up and calls it WIFOM over and over and scummy, and you know in the setup scum don't do that etc. etc.
Unvoting.
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thrawn why did you vote for gumshoe in the first place if you didn't want to lynch him yet? Also as soon as someone else than me posted you unvoted. You put gumshoe on L-1 and when people (me) started actually saying "let's hammer" you retracted from your vote.
What was the point of your vote in the first place?
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If i conclude kushmasta is town when he has caught up i seriously feel confident in hammering gumshoe.
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I didn't want to hammer yet but I don't mind a super early game L-1, it's a good way to get things going. Once people started acting like they seriously wanted to hammer immediately I chickened out.
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On January 04 2014 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't want to hammer yet but I don't mind a super early game L-1, it's a good way to get things going. Once people started acting like they seriously wanted to hammer immediately I chickened out.
What's the point of putting someone into L-1 if you are not intending on letting him being hammered?
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there's a difference between hammering someone and hammering them like 6 hours after game start
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On January 04 2014 11:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't want to hammer yet but I don't mind a super early game L-1, it's a good way to get things going. Once people started acting like they seriously wanted to hammer immediately I chickened out. What's the point of putting someone into L-1 if you are not intending on letting him being hammered?
read the exact post you just quoted, the answer's in there
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You are kinda saying "i wanted to show i am suspicious of gumshoe by voting for him but i did not want to get him lynched yet". It makes no sense because in instant majority games you don't put someone into L-1 if you are not confident in them being hammered. The vote makes no sense in the first place because you give someone the hammer and at the same time you are (what ypou are saying now) saying "here, but please, don't hammer". It makes literally no sense.
Also elaborate more on your statement about my WC fakeclaim comparsion to this game. Why did you do it, compare two entirely different situations? And what does what i did in Witchcraft have to do with my claim in this game? If i have fakeclaimed as scum at some game it does not give me a motivation to fakeclaim in this game. What's my mafia motivation in fakeclaiming parity cop in this game? You must think there is some because you are entertaining an idea i could be mafia, so please share.
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Other than gumshoe's post on yamato I don't like much of his other stuff. He's fluffing his posts to appear bigger than whatever he's contributing. His vote-on-yamato-post included.
Aaand that's all I got.
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I think I could go for a gumshoe vote for that purpose.
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before voted = "didn't think someone would actually hammer gum this early, and an L-1 can help get game going"
after voted = "oh wow people are actually considering a hammer I better unvote"
The reasons the claims are similar is because now, as in WC, I couldn't think of good reasons why scum rayn would do it. And I'm sorry but I'm not going to elaborate on your claim any further, I've made it clear that I'm waiting for the thread to progress a bit first.
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How does L-1 help the game get going better than L-2?
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Real quick what is L-1 or 2? This is a term I do not recognize.
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Also you think there could be a mafia motivation behind me claiming, but you won't elaborate on why. All you have to say is "sayn has fakecalimed as scum before, therefore he could be fakeclaiming now". That's really fishy thrawn. Why are you refusing to give your reasoning?
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This is a pointless convo imo.
Im actually liking gum/yam +1 maf
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On January 04 2014 12:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Real quick what is L-1 or 2? This is a term I do not recognize.
L-1 stands for "one vote from being hammered", L-2 = "two votes from being hammered" and so on.
Used in instant majority lynch games.
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