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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 04 2014 02:21 GMT
#281
On January 04 2014 11:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn why would i claim parity cop as mafia instead of just.. you know, not claiming?


After WC I'd hope you'd never ask me something like that again

Anyways I don't having pressing reasons to interrogate you so I'm just leaving it at that for now.

Now this is a bad post. The situation is totally different.

If you are seriously comparing these situations...

- Fake cop claim and a green check on your scumbuddy when you have to claim something on a night before LYLO
- Cop claim 1h into the game

..you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 04 2014 02:23 GMT
#282
On January 04 2014 11:20 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 10:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hopeless is being reckless. Regardless of gumshoe's alignment townies are more likely to be eager to jump on lynches early on in the game where there is a majority lynch. Hopeless had a randomlynch for himelsf to hide behind if he didn't want to gather attention for hopping on to gumshoe wagon. I think it's more likely as mafia he would stay more neutral and promote more discussion before switching his vote onto gumshoe with literally no reasons given.


I don't get you here. You say hopeless is setting himself up to potentially hide behind a random lynch and you think that is reckless in a townie way?

I am saying that's what he could have done instead of putting himself possibly in a spotlight by jumping on to gumshoe.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 04 2014 02:24 GMT
#283
On January 04 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
a counterclaim nets us 1 mafia guarenteed, not a scummy play. Cant let a fakeclaim go un cc'd anyway.

sent there are reasons gum looks bad and thats not one of them. i domt see how rayn is mafia fakeclaiming cop without a cc, and i hv no reason to distrust in that. fuck parity cop, esp with potential gf



On January 04 2014 11:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
thrawn why would i claim parity cop as mafia instead of just.. you know, not claiming?


These, plus looking at setup as scum would see it (losing one scum today versus a mislynch makes the game a lot harder for them) make me think if there is a cop, should counter claim, and Rayne probably confirmed town versus otherwise.

Another reason I think so now is I was literally going through why I thought an early claim like that is so bad as either alignment that coming from Rayne it just reeks of scum, and he thought I was being wishy-washy and almost like he couldn't conceive how it was scummy- which I took as even scummier, but a look back, as town he would say the same stuff- you do something SPECIFICALLY to get people to work with you and first thing, this guy comes up and calls it WIFOM over and over and scummy, and you know in the setup scum don't do that etc. etc.

Unvoting.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 04 2014 02:30 GMT
#284
thrawn why did you vote for gumshoe in the first place if you didn't want to lynch him yet? Also as soon as someone else than me posted you unvoted. You put gumshoe on L-1 and when people (me) started actually saying "let's hammer" you retracted from your vote.

What was the point of your vote in the first place?
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kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 04 2014 02:31 GMT
#285
catching up now
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 04 2014 02:33 GMT
#286
If i conclude kushmasta is town when he has caught up i seriously feel confident in hammering gumshoe.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 04 2014 02:34 GMT
#287
I didn't want to hammer yet but I don't mind a super early game L-1, it's a good way to get things going. Once people started acting like they seriously wanted to hammer immediately I chickened out.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 04 2014 02:35 GMT
#288
On January 04 2014 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't want to hammer yet but I don't mind a super early game L-1, it's a good way to get things going. Once people started acting like they seriously wanted to hammer immediately I chickened out.

What's the point of putting someone into L-1 if you are not intending on letting him being hammered?
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 04 2014 02:36 GMT
#289
there's a difference between hammering someone and hammering them like 6 hours after game start
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 04 2014 02:37 GMT
#290
On January 04 2014 11:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2014 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
I didn't want to hammer yet but I don't mind a super early game L-1, it's a good way to get things going. Once people started acting like they seriously wanted to hammer immediately I chickened out.

What's the point of putting someone into L-1 if you are not intending on letting him being hammered?


read the exact post you just quoted, the answer's in there
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 02:40 GMT
#291
I don't think rayn impulsively voting has anything to do with his alignment. He took his sweet time in LXII when I was scum with him.

I don't like yamato's presence this game. In the one game I remember with him, he made big posts right out of the gate. Big posts to get everything straightened out. As mafia, his big posts come later and carry considerably less clarity. When yamato is town, he's actively trying to straighten out the game so town can see what is going on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 04 2014 02:43 GMT
#292
You are kinda saying "i wanted to show i am suspicious of gumshoe by voting for him but i did not want to get him lynched yet". It makes no sense because in instant majority games you don't put someone into L-1 if you are not confident in them being hammered. The vote makes no sense in the first place because you give someone the hammer and at the same time you are (what ypou are saying now) saying "here, but please, don't hammer". It makes literally no sense.

Also elaborate more on your statement about my WC fakeclaim comparsion to this game. Why did you do it, compare two entirely different situations? And what does what i did in Witchcraft have to do with my claim in this game? If i have fakeclaimed as scum at some game it does not give me a motivation to fakeclaim in this game. What's my mafia motivation in fakeclaiming parity cop in this game? You must think there is some because you are entertaining an idea i could be mafia, so please share.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 02:46 GMT
#293
Other than gumshoe's post on yamato I don't like much of his other stuff. He's fluffing his posts to appear bigger than whatever he's contributing. His vote-on-yamato-post included.

Aaand that's all I got.
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[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
January 04 2014 02:47 GMT
#294
I think I could go for a gumshoe vote for that purpose.
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 04 2014 02:54 GMT
#295
before voted = "didn't think someone would actually hammer gum this early, and an L-1 can help get game going"

after voted = "oh wow people are actually considering a hammer I better unvote"

The reasons the claims are similar is because now, as in WC, I couldn't think of good reasons why scum rayn would do it. And I'm sorry but I'm not going to elaborate on your claim any further, I've made it clear that I'm waiting for the thread to progress a bit first.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 04 2014 02:58 GMT
#296
How does L-1 help the game get going better than L-2?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 04 2014 03:02 GMT
#297
Real quick what is L-1 or 2? This is a term I do not recognize.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 04 2014 03:02 GMT
#298
Also you think there could be a mafia motivation behind me claiming, but you won't elaborate on why. All you have to say is "sayn has fakecalimed as scum before, therefore he could be fakeclaiming now". That's really fishy thrawn. Why are you refusing to give your reasoning?
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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
January 04 2014 03:03 GMT
#299
This is a pointless convo imo.

Im actually liking gum/yam +1 maf
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 04 2014 03:03 GMT
#300
On January 04 2014 12:02 Alakaslam wrote:
Real quick what is L-1 or 2? This is a term I do not recognize.

L-1 stands for "one vote from being hammered", L-2 = "two votes from being hammered" and so on.
Used in instant majority lynch games.
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