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On January 24 2014 03:46 VisceraEyes wrote: Like what's the fucking point of me coming in and trying when people just think it's funny and make jokes and NOT talk about my contributions? Yeah, this game can eat shit. ? Stop it dear. Do you think kita is actually suspicious or is it just the combinatrics thing you find weird? If not kita, who? | ||
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On January 24 2014 04:52 Foolishness wrote: I don't see any reason why all five of the people on sandroba aren't exempt. Yes I know what I said about marvellosity yesterday and that I would lynch him, but as I pointed out in my previous post here it doesn't seem likely for mafia to hop aboard the sandroba bandwagon. Really the most likely scenario of this happening is the mafia bus of sandroba, and given by the votes and who was voting that would probably mean that I'm mafia as well. I suggest reading my post I linked above again because based on the timestamps and who was voting and why I think it's clear that everyone on sandroba is town (as unlikely as that sounds in terms of raw numbers). Any of the people that switched had good reason to keep their vote on me. Moreso, as I pointed out, it is likely that Promethelax is town because mafia were sitting good with myself being the top lynch and second in line (Promethelax) also a town lynch. The overall point here is that the sandroba bandwagon was not initiated by mafia nor exacerbated by mafia. Mafia were sitting pretty and never expected that sort of switch to happen in the last 10 minutes. Furthermore the votes on sandroba were so close (1 minute apart for the last two) that it's very unlikely Promethelax was like, "oh I can vote for my mafia scumbuddy to gain credibility cause he already has the most votes". No, things happened too fast for it to be planned out like that. No scum would have moved to him at the start, no scum would have moved to him during the middle, and no scum would move to him at the end. Based on what happened, I suggest we look at WoS as well as VE. I like the arguments brought up against VE so far and I think a lot of the same thing can be applied to WoS as well. In particular lazily throwing his vote down on me. Here are his posts about me after I started posting in the second half of the day up to the point where he voted for me and left. What is disturbing about this is his wishy-washy behavior about me. He says he doesn't agree with my case on Promethelax, and that's fine in itself, and he also says he wants to "lynch me less". Then before voting for me says that my answers were "good enough" and that they "fit for a lack of a better term", and that it's my "early play that doesn't make sense to me". If my answers are fitting and good enough why are you voting for me? Just cause you don't agree with me on a person being mafia does not make me mafia. I was actually really surprised when he dropped his vote on me, who tells someone that they have good answers but they are still lynching them? What is also interesting is that he's entirely sheeping a read and admitting to it. Admitting to sheeping a read does not exempt you from sheeping a read. Does it seem like he has his own opinion on the matter? Does it seem like he has an idea of who to vote for? No. Look through his posts, he never really accuses anyone, and never says that he thinks person X would be a good lynch (as I said above, he never said that directly about me either). He dances around a lot of people, myself, marvellosity, Promethelax, etc. Sure, he threw his vote down and knew he wasn't going to be here before the deadline, and there is nothing wrong with that. The problem is that he had no opinion on who should be lynched before the vote. Also his vote started a landslide, since there were already 2 votes on me, and at the time the next closest persons had 1 vote. This is a critical vote because it started the pile up on me, and when people came back and saw this they started piling on (even though those people piling on are likely town cause they all jumped ship to sandroba). On January 24 2014 04:54 VisceraEyes wrote: In this post, scumFoolish tries to make town believe that scum VE and scum WoS, rather than try and save sandroba somehow, just lazily plop our votes down on Foolish. Because THAT doesn't draw attention to people! VE, was this really your reaction to the spoilered post? | ||
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On January 24 2014 07:00 austinmcc wrote: VERY WELL, CITIZEN. YOU MAY BE ON YOUR WAY. I think a couple people were doing it, and it's just...there's a lot of it. Lots and lots and lots of vote talk, timing talk, and very little consideration for votes PLUS FILTERS. Who do you think is particularly guilty? Is anyone particularly guilty of it also scummy for it? Do you think it's made the thread unreadable or something? | ||
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On January 24 2014 07:46 Promethelax wrote: I think terrible posts followed by good posts is a townie thing from foolish more than a scummy thing. No lie his early posting looked horrible and even worse with a Sand flip but he knows that and looks at the thread and figures he can push through on logic and big posts? I see a scum foolish just lurking himself to death there. It would be a depressing place to be as a scummer. It is one reason I like VE (okay, the only reason I like VE) he has been in the thread and actively talking with us all even if his discussion hasn't been all that productive I see him being more depressed if he is scum. Not that that is a solid reason for a read but it is something I've been keeping in mind. No, this is an error in thought, and one which I made for a couple of cycles quite grievously in the Champions game. Foolish was under the kosh for a long time at the start but consistently made long, effortful posts, and I spoke to him afterwards and it went something along the lines of "well it was a champions game, i had to try" I hard defended him for something like 2 cycles that game and ironically only became suspicious of him after he claimed cop and we lynched his redcheck... why? because the targets he was pushing (and not pushing) were increasingly not making sense. Fool almost looks too scummy to be scum for his actions around the lynch, but actually I don't think Fool minds doing that kind of thing as mafia. Anyway all that is preamble, because I think what Foolish has been saying and doing today *has* largely been making sense, in contrast to the champions game. Maybe he's upped his game but at the moment occam = fool is making good posts because he is town after all, despite early wonkyness. Obviously this isn't "confirmed town" but he's way behind several other players. | ||
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On January 24 2014 07:54 gonzaw wrote: But D2 is VE's trial of fire. If he does indeed not show up at all, or does to speak of bullshit stuff like still going on about his conspiracy theory ignoring everything else, he's a surefire scum lynch. If he comes, calms down, makes some sense....then he's still likely scum lynch, but less so. That's town's call then. Regarding Toad: meh. D2 is his trial of fire as well (trial of...wind?). WoS's "wonky" posts lately seem to weird me out, it's like he's going crazy or something. I cba to reread his filter again, but he's worth pressuring. This is exactly how I see it. At the moment VE's 'ragequit' feels quite artificial as we have literally just lynched mafia day 1 and nothing anyone has been saying was particularly unfair. If he afks/holds on to this rage it's a free lynch I think, if he comes back and plays then we can actually evaluate more. | ||
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On January 24 2014 08:17 gonzaw wrote: Well, maybe it was to instill WIFOM into town. Or maybe I'm just too sexy to die Or maybe my jokes are so funny they can't wait until Postgame to hear more from me if they kill me. Or likely that all my reads are wrong and I'm cluttering shit up I guess (that usually seems to be the main reason in other games). Perhaps I need to do another near-deadline shenannies to get their attention. This must be the answer. There is no other reasonable explanation. | ||
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On January 24 2014 08:55 Toadesstern wrote: the first is adressed above. The second, yeah both seems incredibly unlikely and I'm betting on 2 mafias being within WoS/VE/Kita but if that's not the case, yeah I'd actually rather start looking into one of those 4, starting with prom, marv and austin before considering foolish. Are you serious?? | ||
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Definitely the simple solution toad. Your mind is a marvel. | ||
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So you forget that and think about the content of the posts after that. | ||
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In short: meh. If a couple of other ppl start looking really townie then I'll revisit him. I wanna revisit kita's long post tomorrow because it read quite well but I didn't get the same feels from it as I did Fool's post, and I want to know why, if there's a reason or if I'm just rabidly anti-kita because kita. (<3) | ||
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that was effectively the main reason I was campaigning against Fool towards the end of day 1 if you recall... | ||
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