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kitaman27
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On January 24 2014 06:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's fine, I'm done with this game. Honestly people are too tunneled in and there's literally nothing I can do. When I try and participate it is shat on, when I try and have conversations with people it's scum claiming, I have literally no will left to play this game.
Sorry austin, you didn't make it.
Maybe come back a bit later with a focus on who you would lynch, rather than defending yourself? Even if you can't avoid a lynch, if you flip green I'd think people would still look back and see who you made cases on.
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On January 24 2014 06:07 Promethelax wrote:
So why aren't you a part of town?
Hmm?
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Heh suppose thread makes more sense there.
Scum slips exist, but that is not one of them 
Any thoughts on the actual post?
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On January 24 2014 05:57 gonzaw wrote:
These guys are untouchable for now. They only become touchable if we misslynch someone. If we keep lynching scum, then they keep being untouchable. If we do misslynch someone, it is proof we were wrong, thus we reconsider those guys (Foo in particular). But until then, talking shit about them and stuff will only clutter up the thread when we have other suspicious dudes to focus on.
Do people agree (bar VE)?
Can simplify things a lot. We could discuss leaving Foo in it or out of it if you want, but at least the other 5 do go.
I probably wouldn't include the pair in the day 2 lynch discussion, but do you think Foolishness/austin is a viable pair or is there something that would eliminate these two as a team that makes sense?
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Wave knows he's still going to be alive tomorrow. Only mafia know they won't get shot.
ZOMG ZOMG!
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Not being present for the lynch isn't exactly a strong defense.
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On January 24 2014 22:12 gonzaw wrote:
Way more important than "Does VE ragequit as scum?" speculation and "Scum VE wouldn't post shit on gonzaw with shitty reasons because he'd know it'd look bad therefore VE is town"
From what I could tell, he usually comes out with this huge "why VE is town" post the day he is about to die. I didn't find any examples to compare to his behavior this game, aside from a few overly aggressive/frustrated posts.
What worries me about WoS's post is that he doesn't seem to consider the sandroba vote on Prom. Even if he has a scum conclusion, I'd think he would at least comment why it's a calculated move.
I'll have a longer post out today on WoS/VE, but I might not have the time until this evening.
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kitaman27
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On January 24 2014 23:05 marvellosity wrote:
yeah VE ragequits. As either alignment. It's whether I can see it as an emotional response I understand. At the moment it seems over the top and artificial.
I thought the interaction with Prom at the very start of the game was the over the top and artificial part.
He overreacted to a couple of posts within the first hour of the game that mostly seemed like feeler posts and made Prom his lynch candidate. Then when it came time to vote, he dropped it with the "foolishness is manipulating me" stuff. That's probably the most important part to me.
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On January 24 2014 23:07 WaveofShadow wrote:
My D1 is usually pretty bad. I almost NEVER have strong scumreads on D1 and I'm not going to fake confidence about them if they don't exist. If I'm wishy washy about something in thread it's because I'm not afraid to show the rest of the town my thought processes on a matter, which I would think is fairly obvious that that is what I am attempting to do.
I think in the end you have to push yourself to pick a read even if you're not 100%. I wasn't rock solid on Prom and I had sandro in my top 3 scum list, but I still stuck with my lynch because that was the player I had the best feeling about at the time. It may get me in trouble in the long run, but sitting back and allowing others to determine the fate of the lynch doesn't do you any good when 3/10 of them have an anti-town agenda and the other 7/10 likely are just as puzzled as you.
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On January 22 2014 07:19 Foolishness wrote:
Austin and sandroba might as well be afk until 3 pages ago, but since coming to the thread both have had strong appearances. I'm okay with them right now because they have brought things to the thread
This is the post that still bothers me the most about Foolishness when he groups austin and sandroba in his null reads.
Foolishness, I know you stated several times that you were treating sandroba as wait and see, but what are the "strong appearances" and "things brought to the thread" that you are referring to with sandroba's posts. I mentioned earlier that I disagreed with his assessment, but you didn't reply. Could you please point out what you were seeing?
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kitaman27
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On January 24 2014 12:10 Foolishness wrote:
It does make sense if I'm mafia, and I said this before. But as Austin correctly pointed out who is the third mafia and why wasn't there a bigger push to save me? Sandroba's vote is a comfortable vote, if the mafia needed to save me there would have been a push to save me. They were letting the town do the dirty work for them.
Additionally, a "mafia push" to save you can't exist if you're mafia, sandro is mafia, and the third player is either absent or has no thread presence. Earlier I brought up the "who is the third mafia" question as well, but I don't think that's solid enough reasoning to leave you out of consideration.
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On January 25 2014 01:16 gonzaw wrote:@kita: Who is scum? Show nested quote +On January 24 2014 06:01 kitaman27 wrote:
It seems to be that the individuals who were absent are the ones most likely to be mafia (VE, WoS, Holy), which seems to be where the town is leaning as well. I'm going to reread all three when I have the time. You posted this like 20 hours ago. I suggest you stop fooling around and get to it.
Still at work for another 6 hours. I'll need time for dinner and to read the thread, so I can't imagine I'll have much sooner than 8-9 hours from now aside from the random side comment. I'm still at VE, Holy, WoS, and I'm probably going to bring Foolishness back into the mix.
I have read through Wave's posts and he clearly is putting effort in. I haven't put much thought into the quality or mind frame of the posts. I'd probably lean VE over WoS at the moment, though I haven't looked at Toad really at all.
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I also think that instead of looking at Sandroba-Foolishness-Prom, we should be thinking about Sandroba-Foolishness.
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On a side note, I hate the fact that the name Foolishness can't be easily shortened. I suppose I could start calling him Fool, but then people wouldn't know if I'm referring to him or VE.
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On January 25 2014 01:41 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 01:40 kitaman27 wrote:
On a side note, I hate the fact that the name Foolishness can't be easily shortened. I suppose I could start calling him Fool, but then people wouldn't know if I'm referring to him or VE. I've never understood why people on this forum go for WoS over wave. TL mafia is the only place this occurs and i use this name everywhere.
Apparently I use both at the same time -_-
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On January 25 2014 04:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, and he was last on the wagon - whether it was a minute or 10 minutes, he voted last on the wagon and was NOT the hammer vote on sandroba.
Do you think it's likely that scum sandroba moved the lynch from 2-3 to 3-3 onto a scum Prom?
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On January 25 2014 04:36 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2014 04:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, and he was last on the wagon - whether it was a minute or 10 minutes, he voted last on the wagon and was NOT the hammer vote on sandroba. the thing is, if foolishness is mafia that explains why he didn't vote Sandro despite being a very shady explanation. If Sandro and Foolish are mafia together Foolish has nothing to lose, it's either him or Sandro to get lynched, might as well just do nothing and hope that in the confusion of voteswitches Prome (assuming he's town) gets into a more favoreable position to be lynched. If Prom however is mafia as well, so saying it's Sand - Foolish - Prom, that unwillingness from Foolish to vote Sand makes no sense whatsoever. He has nothing to get out of not voting Sand except for a 1-1 trade with Sand which doesn't change a thing for him. Voting Sand however gives him the chance to get some towncred out of it and he WAS around, he could have certaintly voted Sand. It just doesn't make sense if Prom and Foolish are both mafia.
I cannot think of a scenario where Foolishness would have not moved his vote if he needed to for survival. I think he would have done so regardless of his own alignment and regardless of the alignment of any other player, he just didn't need to since the votes where there.
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On January 25 2014 04:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
I was making porkchops.
I think I need proof. Please provide a sample so that I can verify.
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