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On January 25 2014 07:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I have a general idea of how they went down. I know Foolish was up for lynch, and Prom and sand both were possibilities. I was thinking about switching to Prom but felt like Foolish was manipulating me and so I stayed on Foolish. Like, it just seems like people are putting WAAAAY too much stock into VCA. That hardly ever happens here, and I'm starting to see why. It's not really VCA, VE. It's "would mafia do something that makes it more likely for mafia to get lynched, or something that makes it more likely for town to get lynched" | ||
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are you actually trying to infuriate me by repeatedly saying filters when ive said it isn't filters? | ||
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On January 25 2014 07:27 VisceraEyes wrote: But the principal is the same marv - you're telling me that a townToad who knows he's town and knows that Holyflare is town could NOT read the thread and anytime he sees a Holyflare post say "Welp no scum here, moving on" and just not read the post? Are we talking about the same Toad? It just seems unbelievably dumb. But you may have a point, it is toad. | ||
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On January 25 2014 07:30 Toadesstern wrote: how is it that this apparently ISN'T considered to be the natural thing to do I told you exactly why. People respond and talk about the posts that you're ignoring, so you have no context of what they're saying, no idea if what the people are saying about Holy is reasonable or not. Is x twisting this? Is y misrepresenting that? Is z making a fair assessment? You have no idea! | ||
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Do you just mean that you'd expect him to be stronger in his suspicions of him on n1? I mean maybe it's something? but you seem to be making a lot of it in that post | ||
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On January 25 2014 07:43 gonzaw wrote: He wanted him to die on D1, why wouldn't he want his replacement to die N1-D2, specially when he had the revelation that his top scum read is town? Oh I see. Like why is he on Wave now and hasn't thought about toad so much type thing. hmm. yeah ok that's weird. For some reason it feels less far through the day than it is if you know what i mean (probably not) | ||
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Toad can't straight up lie? Ha! | ||
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On January 25 2014 07:51 gonzaw wrote: Well, there's also the "Doesn't push Holy at all throughout D1, just casually mentions his lynch is 'good'" stuff, and the "Mentions his lynch is good, and in the same post is wishy washy about him" stuff. Yeah, I don't really agree with that though. How he posted about Holy on day 1 looked quite natural to me. Mebbe I should have said that that was the point I agreed on :p | ||
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On January 25 2014 12:32 WaveofShadow wrote: Your reasons for finding Toad towny in this post remind me of the reasons why I find VE towny. What say you to that? The only thing I find weird from Wave today. Weird way of kinda admitting that his reasons for finding VE town are wonky? Meh. Agree with gonzaw though, his filter is remarkable today, can not lynch Worryingly the two other posts I noted down because I agreed with them were from austin On January 25 2014 12:43 austinmcc wrote: I'm not seeing the connection, tbh. If you mean because you're townie on VE for conspiracy theories, I don't think that translates. Toad is less conspiracy theory and more...jumping straight into things, convinced, and PUSHING them. I think, honestly, otherwise, you don't actually have good reasons to think VE is town. I think it relies very very heavily on both talking about sandroba, except that you are both saying the same FACTS. Sandroba being a lazy scum is known. Apparently sandroba not caring about pressure is KNOWN. You're not both taking in information and spitting out these same weird thoughts or anything, you're mostly just both saying "the sun is hot." You have a minor point on VE's ragequitting, how it's honest, more likely town, but you ask whether he ragequits as scum. If you believe the answers to that question (marv said yes, dunno if anyone else chimed in), then...all that ragequit jazz is null now. alktjghaelkteahtea. Whatever. I don't see why you think the reasoning on the two are similar. And I don't think you have good points about VE. Sry. This isn't to dig at Wave, this is more to comment on VE. More in a sec On January 25 2014 12:19 austinmcc wrote: I think VE, more than anyone else today, has slipped past a lot of attention. I haven't been able to chat with him. A bunch of his time in thread today was pork chop discussion or discussion of Toad reading HF's filter. The only recent positive for him is that he spent some time N1/D2 attacking prome. Like, out of any target mafia wants to go after, he takes a guy that comes off looking pretty good after the lynch, RATHER than attacking foolishness when given an opening, rather than attacking you, wos, toad. It's an odd choice. Otherwise, he has not scumhunted today. PART of that is people shutting down his suspects. PART of that is him scumhunting by presenting teams or relying on votes. Unsure on how to weight those, but, to me, the contributions he has presented today do not make him town. This is why I want to actually get a chance to speak with him. austin much better when not wifflewaffling about stupid stuff and actually talking about stuff to do with alignments. Really at the moment it's something like: gonzaw/marv/austin/prome - very sexually attractive wave - becoming increasingly sexually attractive by sheer dint of effort and activity apart from anything else, cba to talk at length because no reason kita - also becoming increasingly attractive, to a lesser extent. I went back to read his large vote analysis post because at the time I wasn't convinced why for whatever reason. It looks better the 2nd time round. People have kinda taken the piss out of his combinatrics, but he seems to be trying to eliminate unlikely teams within that post, which in turn eliminates possible mislynches if he's mafia. I would like you to answer kita (because it wasn't abundantly clear to me) how you've arrived at Prome as "town". In your analyis post it seemed like you were basically coming around to the idea that Prome wasn't mafia anymore, but without being particularly firm about it as far as I could tell. Did your vote analysis + other people's comments firm up your town read on Prome? Or what? Foolishness case also quite compelling, didn't read too forced, made some sense, so... foolish - was kinda sexually attractive, now in fear of beer goggles. I keep reading his filter because people keep talking about him, and I keep understanding what people are saying, but all his posts now read so natural and not-bad to me :/ I'm shit-scared that i'm wrong but meeeeeh. i'm good enough and, frankly, i have the most recent game experience (last year or two) with foolish out of anyone here. for whatever reason gonzaw is the person i'm most likely to listen to on gonzaw because he seems to approach his alignment in a similar way to me. and gonzaw is starting to think he's scummy... bleh toad - quite ugly. Honestly I'm not understanding any of the rationale put forth by austin on why the slot is particularly townie. Don't get the Holyflare "brainz" thing. I understand to a more limited extent Prome's point on D1 that Holy couldn't be "that terrible" with something he posted if he were scummy, but still meh. I also cannot get over the idea of someone reading through a thread and missing out someone's posts, even as an aid to "save time" because ultimately it doesn't save much time at the time, it doesn't save time in the long run, and it makes other people's posts harder to understand. I can't imagine doing it myself. The case on Wave is weak and again I do not understand austin's rationale of "it's weak in a townie way". No, it's just weak. He's one of my two mafia currently. would kill VE - also quite ugly. I'm so over the woe is me routine. He came back to the thread posting yesterday and I was all like "yay, maybe he's town!" but then he kinda just wandered around listlessly and bitched at stuff. This feels like one of those times someone is being allowed to slip under the radar while people distract themselves with more shiny things. Remember how suspicious people were of VE right post-flip? And yet somehow now, there's nothing... what's warranted this, actually? Nothing... The one thing I'm basically worried is happening with the way things have been going is that Foolish = town, and he's right that lynching into that list would actually win the game for town. So... there has to be a push by mafia (if that would win the game) to lynch outside of that list, and Foolish is the target. In particular this makes me quite paranoid of kita. Nonetheless I think we should go for the best of both worlds and find the MOST suspicious people from Fool's list and lynch them and worry about things if we haven't won by then. In other words, VE/Toad mafia, let's kill them. oh PS, there's also a non-zero chance I won't be around for deadline today, social thingies. Fair warning too | ||
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Seems he's barely been talked about recently and now it's all on Fool (austin seems to be liking it too). Which I thinnnnk is a mistake. | ||
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On January 25 2014 22:00 Promethelax wrote: If we can find four players which contain the two scum we will win. We have two mislynches this game (unbalanced blah blah blah. Rage) and have eliminated four players from being suspect. There are five possible candidates for the lynch so for town to win we have to exonerate a single member of the Kita/fool/WoS/toad/VE group. Which of those do you exonerate? WoS or fool? I don't really get the point of desperately trying to exonerate one player. Just lynch the two mafia. It's not that complicated. | ||
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what are you doing? what stuff doesn't make sense? like my post is literally ordered... ? hoppity hop, i want to go exercise. | ||
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I said clearly at the end we should be lynching into my two mafia reads, VE and toad. My vote is on VE. I said I think Foolishness is town at the moment. You want me to scream at myself in a post or something? I literally just came back and told town what I think we should be doing. This conversation is extremely, extremely dull on your part Prome. Go pour a glass of water over your head or something. WEEEEOH WEEEEEOH. GUISE. LET'S NOT LYNCH FOOL TODAY. LET'S LYNCH VE HUH? COME ON GUISE DO IT. LOOK GUISE COME ON. | ||
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