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On January 01 2014 07:44 Koshi wrote:Cora, you do agree with me that there are some holes in VE his play right? The biggest problems I have: 1) The nayvote as 4th vote with what he now calls a bullshit reason, who does that as town? I refer to big case to why he does it as scum (it comes down to bussing = bad). Here are the posts in VE filter around that: + Show Spoiler +On December 29 2013 00:30 VisceraEyes wrote: Well if the guy who picked the team isn't confident, why should I be? I don't even have to read to nay-vote the team. XD
I'm reading anyway, you rascals. On December 29 2013 02:53 VisceraEyes wrote: Adam's reasoning is pretty generic for his picks, which isn't bad per se, but he himself is kinda a null read for me and I'd feel comfortable with someone like myself or Corazon on the team. Maybe a little Sentinel. But mostly just less Adam.
##Vote: Nay On December 31 2013 05:13 VisceraEyes wrote: And no, I thought Adam was scum when I nay-voted the team. Or at least, I was explicit in saying Adam was the reason I was nay-voting. On December 31 2013 12:32 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm going to be completely honest here guys.
The reason I nay-voted Adam's team was because three people instantly yay'd it and that bothered me so I nay-voted. I hadn't filtered a single one of them when I voted. It was a response to the present votes, period.
Discuss. On December 31 2013 12:34 VisceraEyes wrote: When I posted later, I had filtered them and posted my thoughts, but at the time of my vote, I had no idea what alignment I thought any of the candidates were, aside from maybe having Adam as leaning town for thinking I'm scum for bad reasons. He says he purely nayvoted based on the 3 yayvotes and didn't read any filters. HOWEVER, while he nayvoted he gave pretty accurate reasons to why he nayvoted ADAM. And then the last post in the spoiler is saying that when he actually did read Adam he had a townie read on Adam. That's a pretty serious contradiction right? Why would he point out his own contradictions? Both his reasons for downvoting Adam's team (he didn't like Adam/he was concerned by the lack of opposition) were decent reasons on their own, the only problem is that he changed his story halfway through. I don't see scum play in his open and honest posts.
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On January 01 2014 07:39 Hopeless1der wrote: Cora's brain can't seem to handle the possibility that someone considers him scum. But he's probably town. And a self-centered drama queen.
What a 180. This post greatly supports my theory that Hopeless was simply trying to throw shit at me to justify a nay-vote to an all-town team.
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On January 01 2014 07:57 VisceraEyes wrote: Cora do you have misgivings about Sentinel that I overlooked somewhere? While I go look at Sentinel's filter (because I did have one small qualm but I decided to overlook it b/c I was ok with the team you sent out), can you answer me this:
Are you trying to find scum through process of elimination? As in finding all of the town first?
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Ok VE, I will answer you now.
The only problem I have with Sentinel is that he isn't really sharing his own opinions. He's made a few posts talking about who he thinks is scummy, but the majority of his posts are talking about game mechanics and possible scum plans. I'm not sure where he stands on his reads because he hasn't made them readily available.
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@Koshi
On December 30 2013 08:30 Corazon wrote: You [hopeless] also call me scummy for simply agreeing with people on my feelings about you, yet you overlook the three people who immediately sheeped yay votes onto Adam's team with minimal explanation. At least I waited for discussion before voting, just like I have for this team.
The fact that you are only going after me and overlooking others is really scummy. Your lack of parity between attacking myself and attacking others gives me a good feeling that you are scum and you are trying to derail this proposed team.
On December 31 2013 11:18 Corazon wrote: No, I said why I voted yay in the post I quoted. I'm not saying yay solely just to spite Koshi. I said yay because I liked the team. You made a false accusation because you're not looking at all of my posts. You're not calling me out, you're trying to throw shit all over me.
On January 01 2014 04:22 Corazon wrote: Hopeless' shit-flinging on me could be an excuse for him to vote nay to an all-town team. He just decided the problem with the team was me and started shit-flinging to back up his opinion.
This is the basis of my Hopeless read.
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This game...
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5 people who barely participate (besides Sentinel) just outvoted all of the people actually discussing everything...
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Yeah I'm sorry, Koshi has been involved in the game ever since he has gotten to pick his team. My apologies.
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On January 02 2014 09:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Oh Rayn didn't, forgot he votes last. He was in support of this team though. This team is going to fail because Hopeless is scum. I don't know how many more times I have to say it
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On January 02 2014 09:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 01 2014 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you wanna send me + you + Hopeless i am okay with it. But please, do not pick the team yet if you are able to do it later, i want to hear what other people have to say about it aswell. Yeah he said so right here Yeah but 2 people who haven't read the thread said yes without thinking it over.
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On January 02 2014 09:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 09:40 Corazon wrote:On January 02 2014 09:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Oh Rayn didn't, forgot he votes last. He was in support of this team though. This team is going to fail because Hopeless is scum. I don't know how many more times I have to say it Other than him, who are your two others and why? I thought it was Koshi first but I'm a bit less sure due to his latest posting. I wonder if he will keep his activity up after his turn to pick is over.
I'm also curious about CR as he hasn't done much after the first 24 hours.
Coag and I agreed a week or so ago by PM to not talk to each other so I probably will not pick him for missions either.
I'm just trying to find three really townie people to send right now. I'm just finding people I don't want to send on teams, it's hard to call someone scum for sure until we do some missions.
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On January 02 2014 09:44 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 09:42 Corazon wrote:On January 02 2014 09:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On January 01 2014 04:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you wanna send me + you + Hopeless i am okay with it. But please, do not pick the team yet if you are able to do it later, i want to hear what other people have to say about it aswell. Yeah he said so right here Yeah but 2 people who haven't read the thread said yes without thinking it over. Read the rationale on CR's nonvoting given by Koshi/Rayn and please post thoughts on it Koshi just gave two possible rationales for CR's lack of caring and then gave a null read on CR.
It doesn't really matter to me if he is trying to make himself hard to read or if he is not caring about D1, all I know is that he is not invested in this game at all which makes me not want to take him on a mission currently.
If he starts caring after D1, then my read on him will change based on his posts and his reads, but I won't forget how much of a non-factor he has been so far.
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Coag, I don't intend on talking to you at all this game and I asked you to not talk to me at all. Please respect that request.
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On January 02 2014 09:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 09:57 Corazon wrote: Coag, I don't intend on talking to you at all this game and I asked you to not talk to me at all. Please respect that request. Cora you're only making yourself look redder by using that fight as a crutch. This has nothing to do with the game. I don't want him to talk to me and he should respect that.
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On January 02 2014 10:01 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 09:57 Corazon wrote: Coag, I don't intend on talking to you at all this game and I asked you to not talk to me at all. Please respect that request. We are in a game together and its expected that you play properly. your just gonna have to tough it out buddy. You joined my game. Last warning before GM has to hear about this issue again.
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On January 02 2014 10:03 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2014 10:01 Corazon wrote:On January 02 2014 09:59 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On January 02 2014 09:57 Corazon wrote: Coag, I don't intend on talking to you at all this game and I asked you to not talk to me at all. Please respect that request. Cora you're only making yourself look redder by using that fight as a crutch. This has nothing to do with the game. I don't want him to talk to me and he should respect that. CORA this is a PUBLIC chat forum for christs sake. I dont have to "respect" your wishes when they are as asinine as controlling who I can talk to in a public place.
It would be bad if I said you could not talk to someone else, but I just want you to leave me alone. How simple of a wish is that?
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On January 02 2014 10:04 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Can both of you just stop acting like five year olds and start playing the game? You're the one who made the issue worse by calling me scummy for it.
I'll be back later.
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Guys, look at hopeless flopping around like a fish because he has nowhere to hide.
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I did develop a cohesive argument. Read my filter.
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On January 03 2014 06:57 Chairman Ray wrote: Has Corazon played as scum in a previous mafia game before? Newbie Mini Mafia 33 Titanic I (I was IMCaptnJackSparrow)
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