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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:43 GMT
#960
he said he was hyped for this game. so you're doing this and only reading in private like obviously you havet houghts about this game but you don't want to provide them unless you are ASKED for them you are only acting when you are under pressure because you don't give a shit about contributing to this game, you're providing as little info as possible.

what town player can only defend their actions and reasoning through fucking meta ......lol he can't even explain his intentions because they're bold faced scummy so he just defaults to "don't pay attention to me i'm bad DrH very good " . If I'm so good and he is town why do I want him dead day 1? That makes no sense. How can any town player think I'm the best choice for mayor when I disagree with their lynch choice whole-heartedly AND want them lynched? It's illogical.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:47 GMT
#964
yeah, what a self-centered and stupid way of looking at the game. I can't read VE hardly ever, there are people who can, why would I want him lynched Day 1 over something like that? Why would he push other mayors to stick to his policy lynch over his own preferences versus pushing his ACTUAL scumreads? Is that good play to you
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:50 GMT
#967
ok now you're lying
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:51 GMT
#968
On January 12 2014 10:47 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 10:46 Captain Obvious wrote:
On January 12 2014 10:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
he doesn't have real reads because he's making exclusively private reads to people and they're all different people.

course of action:
1. ask for policy lynch on a player whose alignment you have no opinion on
2. say that no matter who is mayor you will push for this lynch
3. vote for a mayor who says they will not lynch kush and suspects BH himself of being scum
4. provide scumread on xatalos when asked by me on the second half of the day, doesn't push it
5. privately provides scumread to xatalos on alakaslam, doesn't push it in thread
6. privately provides split moderate scumreads on rayn/marvellosity to me in private, says putting madhatter bombs on them is a good idea, doesn't push either player in thread or in his PMs with other people, when asked about it only talks about how he only thinks one can be scum
7. votes for me again after i ask for him to be lynched

he's playing intentionally and brazenly anti-town. I don't care how "bad" blazinghand is. What better to do as scum at this point than to collapse completely and shit in the thread?


He clearly stated it was a policy lynch because he did not believe he would be able to discern his alignment. If he was able to form an opinion on him he wouldn't have asked for a policy lynch!


yeah I mean like I said, DrH clearly doesn't understand (or, more likely, is pretending not to understand) my thought process or the definition of a policy lynch. I suspect he's actually just displeased with my playstyle and has decided to make an example of me, showing he's not afraid to go after veterans who don't play to his standards. If it causes town to fall into line for the rest of the game, that's a reasonable decision and I support that.

ah, martyr yourself
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:53 GMT
#973
well wait for hopeless to confirm that otherwise you need to stop playing recklessly and push your actual scumreads
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 01:58 GMT
#985
forcing a claim out of you is ideal anyway tbh
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:00 GMT
#993
On January 12 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 10:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
forcing a claim out of you is ideal anyway tbh

Why, exactly? Were you planning on tunneling this to the ends of the earth?

well yeah it's not like i didn't think he was scum or anything but now i know i can just ignore him if hopeless confirms his claim. not worrying about BH is an ideal situation for anybody
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:01 GMT
#999
On January 12 2014 11:00 Blazinghand wrote:
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On January 12 2014 10:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well good to know my townread of BH was right as well---was about to post that this seems alarmingly similar to Les Mafia and was trying to go about stepping in to defend him.

marv I'm not sure I like that excuse. Is it ever a good idea to fish like that if it forces a reveal? I feel like your ego aside, you value proper play and if your fishing truly caused this, I don't think it was proper play at all.


this is part of why i'm suspicious of marv. i just don't see town marv putting his ego aside. town marv would just believe himself

why would scum marv announce he found the blue to the blue he was already supremely confident in the crumb he found so why not just shoot you, why give town a bunch of info like that. marv is better than this, some wine is harder to drink.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:04 GMT
#1005
On January 12 2014 11:02 Captain Obvious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 10:58 Blazinghand wrote:
Would it be okay for hopeless1 not to have to confirm me? that might be easier in terms of avoiding scum nk


He must claim, either to verify or to deny and call you out as scum. Scum already knows if you're really a mason or not, not claiming only withholds information from town!

no lmao why would that be ok
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:05 GMT
#1008
new rule: don't engage with BH untill hopeless confirms him. then continue not engaging wth BH.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:08 GMT
#1013
let's talk about how derrida is scum
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:11 GMT
#1019
On January 12 2014 11:09 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
let's talk about how derrida is scum

Not Koshi?

He was next on my list.

Koshi is acting a little too weird for me to read I need to see more, it's not uh....play that I'm used to analyzing? If that makes sense. I don't know what to make of it I just don't like it so i'm torn between scum and bad town
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:14 GMT
#1022
BC gets bored kill him like day 3 or 4 if he hasn't done anything
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:15 GMT
#1023
On January 12 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
People are welcome to comment on suchdoge as well since nobody has yet...

talking about it in irc right now, will you get on irc i'd like to talk to you in particular actually. i have confidence that if you are town it will be productive
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:17 GMT
#1028
irc #tlmafia
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 02:17 GMT
#1029
On January 12 2014 11:16 Aquanim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 11:08 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
let's talk about how derrida is scum

Yeah, OK.

Reasons to think he's scum:
list post, but that's a heuristic in which I have only limited confidence
bases his mayoral preferences first on "enjoying reading their filter because it is srs" and second his read on them

Reasons to think he's town:
I got nuffin, but I do have...

Reasons I'm not certain yet:
he has like 2 posts and being a newbie his thinking about "is this relevant to whether they should be mayor or not" probably isn't expected to be entirely accurate whatever his alignment

tl;dr I'm not certain he's scum but he's a reasonable guess

P.S. will go meta him now re. Marv's statement

do you have a stronger read on someone else then?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 22:46 GMT
#1447
Feeling Xat also. His actions don't really line up with the fact that he seemed to think my PM exchange with him was scummy, he didn't commit to that criticism and people who throw out criticisms and call outs without tying it into a strong read or a goal are usually trying to pass themselves off as contributing. The timing of his call out was way late too, if he thought I was dodging his questions and obscuring information - why didn't he say so sooner? It's obvious from the PM logs as well that I wasn't - so it's a forced criticism. Then he backs off and says it doesn't tell much except that I wouldn't be a great mayor, but he chooses not to mention that at the end of his call out in the first place - until it was obvious that nobody would think I might be scum from it. Reacting to town sentiment instead of freely expressing his own opinions? Maybe
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 22:49 GMT
#1450
I agreed but was more concerned with BH at the time, didn't wanna spread myself too thin
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 23:16 GMT
#1462
VE hasn't responded to a PM I sent over 12 hours ago asking for his reads, I doubt he has that many PMs...
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
January 12 2014 23:46 GMT
#1495
Marv didn't you tell me vague and readless VE is town Ve?
RIP Aaliyah
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