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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 17:56 GMT
#686
I have a couple of questions to kushm4sta:
1) How can you make statements like you did when you won't elaborate on them and/or openly admit you might be misremembering a game that ended like 24h ago (which makes me doubt you actually remember any game - which is quite clear as you claim yamato was my top scumreads in Extractor trick D1)? It's clear you don't even have a clue if my reads are good or bad on D1 in any game so why are you just discrediting me?
2) Earlier on you were vouching for thread play regarding reads and fishy behavior. Why did you ask me to not put our conversation in thread? What are you afraid of?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 20:27 GMT
#716
I have some juicy shit on DrH and Xatalos.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 20:34 GMT
#718
Xatalos had a PM convo he quoted in thread with DrH last night (fin time). In the morning i ask DrH what he thinks about Xatalos. His answer is literally "i don't even know who Xatalos is lol". Xatalos - when he comes back to the thread - does not call DrH out for it.

What the fuck are those guys doing in PM's? Why don't people pay attention? Xatalos seems to be paying attention and appears pro-active, yet he doesn't notice that kinda stuff. DrH forgets half of his PM-mates, what's the purpose of PMing if you don't even remember who you have PM'd a couple of hours later?

Seems like there is no purpose and they are just throwing PM's around to look active.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 20:36 GMT
#720
Is it?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 20:42 GMT
#727
Not really, no. But that's how you use PM's. You try to see if someone says one thing in thread and another thing in PM's.
Apparently one of them was drunk and the other one lost his train of thought before finishing reading the thread.
Maybe you guys should stick to the thread if you do scummy stuff like this or can't handle remembering what people say in PM's and in thread..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 20:44 GMT
#731
On January 12 2014 05:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn grasping its kinda weird...didn't Doc post a log between he and Xata? Or am I misremembering?

and what does him posting a log has to do with anything?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 20:49 GMT
#734
Let me make a better case when i come back from saune becase clearly almost none of the people have absolutely no idea what's the purpose of PM's in the first place and also they have no clue what i am talking about.

brb
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 22:39 GMT
#772
So Xatalos here's what i don't get:
    [1]First you have a PM-convo with DrH.
    [2]After this i ask DrH's read on you. He says "i don't even know who Xatalos is lol".
    [3]After this you come back to the thread and make a post on BH, Aquanim, fuba and suchdoge. You even ask me about something we talked about at the time you had your convo with DrH.
    [4]After this DrH forgets half of the people he has PM'd with.
    [5]After this you call him out for his PM's with you.

Here:
On January 12 2014 04:04 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 03:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Nah, only marv and alakaslam have pmd me. oh and bh.


What's this about? We've exchanged several PM's already. You pretty much avoided answering anything though...... You refused to talk about your reads or your policy. And now you just forgot? How is that even possible?


So. First of all. If you really thought his PM's with you were fishy and he was unwilling to cooperate and it's scummy how can you possibly miss the fact that the dude didn't even remember he has been in PM contact with you in the first place? If i had a fishy PM-convo with someone i would bring that up in the first place when i have a chance to do so. Not AFTER he gives a reason to do so by not remembering something. And i certainly would not miss the fact a couple of hours after our PM-convo the guy does not remember me.

Because to me this looks like;
"I PM'd with DrH, cool. I didn't really care about what he says. But now, he gave me a reason to attack him, in fact i can also throw some shit on him because this could be labeled fishy".

So, why are you not paying attention to scummy stuff and why are you not calling it out in the first place possible if it was important?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 22:48 GMT
#787
On January 12 2014 07:46 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 07:45 marvellosity wrote:
I guess Koshi is getting disappointed with his desire to see a great town BH game again then


ok maybe the mass DrH PM wasn't PERFECT but if people hadn't immediately claimed it in thread I might have gotten some results. it was wroth a try. let me get my mojo going, i'll prove myself!! !

So you are voting a guy for mayor because "he is sharp". This guy has forgotten about 50% of the people he has PM'd with 24h into the game.

Again, elaborate on that statement of yours.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 22:50 GMT
#790
How do you feel about lynching Xatalos DrH?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 22:57 GMT
#802
On January 12 2014 03:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 03:21 yamato77 wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It's weird to make a post that essentially functions as a list of accusations/scumreads without actually calling anyone scummy/scum/or likely scum and even admitting in suchdoges case that he doubts he is mafia? So what's even the point of saying anything then.

Implied suspicion?

I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky.

I don't think so at all. You have four or five people listed, you only barely called one of them scum, you're not really asking questions of any of them. If I was on that list I wouldn't feel any need to respond to anything Xatalos said. He talks about suchdoges suspicious behavior then says it's more likely town than scum so what is he even getting at? I wish people would stop posting lists like that, they're the worst posts ever.

So DrH you make a post like this where i assume you call Xatalos scummy.
About 10 minutes later you PM me about your scumreads and "funny feelings" but Xatalos is not there. Why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 23:05 GMT
#818
On January 12 2014 08:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:21 yamato77 wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It's weird to make a post that essentially functions as a list of accusations/scumreads without actually calling anyone scummy/scum/or likely scum and even admitting in suchdoges case that he doubts he is mafia? So what's even the point of saying anything then.

Implied suspicion?

I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky.

I don't think so at all. You have four or five people listed, you only barely called one of them scum, you're not really asking questions of any of them. If I was on that list I wouldn't feel any need to respond to anything Xatalos said. He talks about suchdoges suspicious behavior then says it's more likely town than scum so what is he even getting at? I wish people would stop posting lists like that, they're the worst posts ever.

So DrH you make a post like this where i assume you call Xatalos scummy.
About 10 minutes later you PM me about your scumreads and "funny feelings" but Xatalos is not there. Why?

what do you mean why

You give me a list of your scumreads. I assume you are asking me about what i think of them. If Xatalos is your scumread why the hell is he not on the list?

And why are you voting for yamato for mayor if i am going to execute your scumread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 23:07 GMT
#821
On January 12 2014 08:06 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 12 2014 08:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:21 yamato77 wrote:
On January 12 2014 03:19 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
It's weird to make a post that essentially functions as a list of accusations/scumreads without actually calling anyone scummy/scum/or likely scum and even admitting in suchdoges case that he doubts he is mafia? So what's even the point of saying anything then.

Implied suspicion?

I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky.

I don't think so at all. You have four or five people listed, you only barely called one of them scum, you're not really asking questions of any of them. If I was on that list I wouldn't feel any need to respond to anything Xatalos said. He talks about suchdoges suspicious behavior then says it's more likely town than scum so what is he even getting at? I wish people would stop posting lists like that, they're the worst posts ever.

So DrH you make a post like this where i assume you call Xatalos scummy.
About 10 minutes later you PM me about your scumreads and "funny feelings" but Xatalos is not there. Why?

what do you mean why

You give me a list of your scumreads. I assume you are asking me about what i think of them. If Xatalos is your scumread why the hell is he not on the list?

And why are you voting for yamato for mayor if i am going to execute your scumread?

i don't like you to be honest i've never hated anyone in a game more than i hate you but i think you're town, i'm being petty

I am sorry if i confront you about your inconsistent actions.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 23:15 GMT
#835
I'd kill Derrida if i had to choose now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 23:15 GMT
#838
or BH or Koshi.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 23:19 GMT
#851
Oh no, too many scummers. I forgot CptObvious.
Maybe Koshi will town tell tomorrow.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 11 2014 23:31 GMT
#870
Blazinghand you can't possibly be town..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 12 2014 00:42 GMT
#906
Hi gumshoe. Comments on interesting happenings in thread and maybe a scumread or two okay?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 12 2014 07:40 GMT
#1072
Why is VE so bad?
And why is Blazinghand so terribad? Good job BH, if mafia did not notice you are mason they sore did now. Good job indeed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 12 2014 08:45 GMT
#1076
yamato i am pretty sure VE is not scum.
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