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On January 12 2014 23:26 marvellosity wrote: lol amazing. Sorry if I insulted you, but something like nitpicking on my wording of "PM'ing a lot" is just... bad. I think you're still probably town, but I trust rayn more than you. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote raynpelikoneet | ||
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On January 12 2014 23:40 marvellosity wrote: you know it's rayn who pushed you as suspicious to me originally?  I know he suspected me earlier, but his reasoning was a lot more valid. Not "he's not sending me enough PM's", "he's saying ..but... in some reads" or "his wording of "PM'ing a lot" is super suspicious!". Instead it was related to me not paying enough attention to comparing thread/PM discussions, which was a reasonable thing to pressure for. It's been also more reasonable to discuss with him. | ||
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That's nitpicking again. If I'm genuinely unsure about some player, what's the point in saying that there's nothing pointing to town? In Koshi's case that "but" is related to an earlier PM discussion I had. I was pretty convinced he's scum, but some doubt lingered - mostly because of meta. | ||
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On January 13 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: What does marv's logs with VE / suchdoge have to do with anything? There could be something useful in there considering neither of them have done much in-thread. Also marv not providing them is weird. Why not? You're confident that marv is town? What has he been like in PM's with you? | ||
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On January 13 2014 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: he has been townie. Like i have told you every time you have asked.. Reads can change over time. What do you think of our debacle? | ||
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On January 13 2014 00:35 Koshi wrote: Hi Xatalos. Why am I a good player on D1? I've only played with you when you've been scum and I've thought you were town every time. yamato convinced me that your play is fitting for lazy scum so far. Are you often this passive as scum? | ||
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On January 13 2014 00:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand, what do you mean? Your and marv's? Yes, how did it affect your read on me/marv? | ||
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On January 13 2014 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Wait what, when did yamato say so? That's entirely incorrect. Original Message From yamato77: Players don't always play the same way as mafia from game to game. Basically, mafia will do the least they can get away with most of the time. The more important question for me is, why would town Koshi play as he is? Original Message From Xatalos: Yeah, it's easy to hide for scum if a large group of players are inactive both in thread and PM's. It's pretty easy to at least semi-confirm players as town through PM's. It's a real pain to fabricate PM conversations as scum and that's why I prefer playing as town in a PM game. Koshi hasn't really done anything, but he was playing a very active/townish scum in Nuclear Winter Mafia. Has he played like this as scum? Original Message From yamato77: Actually I'd probably lynch Koshi over Derrida, because Koshi's a player I know is capable of decent play, yet he's completely opting out of playing the game entirely. Like I said, it's those types of players I will be lynching into, because there's too many to just let them all live. | ||
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...? What's the use in hiding info? | ||
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On January 13 2014 00:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: What marv says about you is correct. That's what you do as scum. ..You mean the "...but.." thing, the "PM a lot" thing or the "you haven't been PM'ing me lately" thing? I disagree on everything except I agree that I do say "...but..." as scum, but I do so as town too, so... | ||
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As a sidenote, I never lied about that PM stuff I was accused of (rayn etc.). | ||
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