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DoctorHelvetica
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On January 12 2014 03:21 yamato77 wrote: Implied suspicion? I think Xatalos is townie from what I know of him. This seems nitpicky. I don't think so at all. You have four or five people listed, you only barely called one of them scum, you're not really asking questions of any of them. If I was on that list I wouldn't feel any need to respond to anything Xatalos said. He talks about suchdoges suspicious behavior then says it's more likely town than scum so what is he even getting at? I wish people would stop posting lists like that, they're the worst posts ever. | ||
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On January 12 2014 04:04 Xatalos wrote: What's this about? We've exchanged several PM's already. You pretty much avoided answering anything though...... You refused to talk about your reads or your policy. And now you just forgot? How is that even possible? yea i forgot. ve pmd me too i guess. | ||
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anyway here is our pm log I don't agree with the notion of fake activity there, I think you're misdirecting that idea. You can listen to the first tl mafia podcast if you want to hear my thoughts on day 1 policy discussion. I have very slight reads but they're just nudges. It would be counterproductive to mention them now. When I have time I'd like to pressure those players first. I'm already doing it a little bit in PMs. Original Message From Xatalos: I'd be interested to hear that, yes. Ok then. I'd like to hear more of your stances on players rather than policy though. I realize it's early, but it's relatively easy to fake activity with policy talk, and I'd rather not elect a scum Mayor. Do you have (even slight) player reads yet? Hide nested quote - Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: There's nothing to discuss about BH, all I did was ask him questions and disagree with his premature lynch choice. I never accused him of anything. If I feel one way about him strongly, you'll know. There are a lot of ways I've talked about on the podcast as well, I'm not going to type them out on my phone rn but if you need me to tell you ill do so in the morning when I'm on a proper computer. Original Message From Xatalos: What about the points I mentioned about BH? How exactly do you catch scum with policy talk? Original Message From DoctorHelvetica: I'm busy tonight at Friday night magic. I am PMing marv and I am concerned with his passive nature. I figure when I get home there will be more to consider. Talking about policy is my policy for day 1, it makes people take sides and you can catch scum in serious errors like promethelax in I think LX? Original Message From Xatalos: I'm considering you for Mayor, and I kind of like your policy ideas, but you've pretty much only talked about policy so far. You did mention BH though. You hoped that his true intention is to generate discussion, but did you see Titanic II? There he tunneled a lurker all game and ignored me although I was near-confirmed scum. He was town. I somehow doubt that he has any noble goals in mind currently, town or scum. And it'd be extremely easy to fake a mindless push like that. Have you PM'd with marv yet? What do you think of his disinterest in becoming Mayor? Does he otherwise feel towny? i didn't really avoid talking to you seeing as i explained my inactivity and said i'd answer your questions but i forgot about you by the time i got home and you never PM'd me again like if you wanted to get answers from me and feel dissatisfied with my activity or whatever, why not keep hounding me? my feelings on BH and everything have changed since that PM exchange as well. | ||
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On January 12 2014 05:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not really, no. But that's how you use PM's. You try to see if someone says one thing in thread and another thing in PM's. Apparently one of them was drunk and the other one lost his train of thought before finishing reading the thread. Maybe you guys should stick to the thread if you do scummy stuff like this or can't handle remembering what people say in PM's and in thread.. Maybe you should read the logs then? On January 12 2014 05:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Xatalos had a PM convo he quoted in thread with DrH last night (fin time). In the morning i ask DrH what he thinks about Xatalos. His answer is literally "i don't even know who Xatalos is lol". Xatalos - when he comes back to the thread - does not call DrH out for it. What the fuck are those guys doing in PM's? Why don't people pay attention? Xatalos seems to be paying attention and appears pro-active, yet he doesn't notice that kinda stuff. DrH forgets half of his PM-mates, what's the purpose of PMing if you don't even remember who you have PM'd a couple of hours later? Seems like there is no purpose and they are just throwing PM's around to look active. "He quoted in thread". If Xatalos posted the logs earlier, I missed it completely. But I just posted them a bit ago since he brought it up and I don't want to leave the thread in the dark, even if it is my bad for forgetting about it. On January 12 2014 04:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: because i forgot. i forgot you were even in this game when i was asked about you later. anyway here is our pm log i didn't really avoid talking to you seeing as i explained my inactivity and said i'd answer your questions but i forgot about you by the time i got home and you never PM'd me again like if you wanted to get answers from me and feel dissatisfied with my activity or whatever, why not keep hounding me? my feelings on BH and everything have changed since that PM exchange as well. "What the fuck are those guys doing in PM's? " you could read the logs for example. The way you're talking about it makes it seem like I PM'd him or we both made a decision to have a conversation. He PM'd me questions and I answered them, I had pretty much no confidence in my reads at the time because A. it was early B. i didn't have the free time to follow up on my guts since I was busy. You can scold me if you want for being a forgetful and absent-minded player. I will acknowledge that and it's something I should improve during this game. But there's nothing suspicious about it really. Xatalos PM'd me yesterday and I forgot about it. That's it. There's nothing else to say except boo on me for not being extremely attentive. | ||
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On January 12 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: and what does him posting a log has to do with anything? where's the secret plan? you say "what the hell are you doing in PMs" like it's some big deal xatalos pm'd me a couple of questions, i answered them, we went back and forth for like ten minutes and then it was over and i forgot about it....so you can't really say i'm trying to hide information and I have no reason to lie about it. it's pollution to just scold me in thread, if you wanna berate me personally for being forgetful then feel free to flame me in pms | ||
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On January 12 2014 05:49 yamato77 wrote: Like I asked before DrH, do you have anything else notable you want to talk about or is the Xatalos thing still convincing to you? I'm waiting on responses from a few people, one in PMs and one in thread and a good chunk of time to read filters and sit down with my wordpad open. I still demand BH explain his course of action since he is my top scumread. | ||
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